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hmph, I would've thought Aizen & rest'd be a bit older than that
No One Stands On the Sky: An Aizen Quest (Bleach) (DEAD)
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It certainly crunches a lot of events, there's a lot less time between us, Turn Back the Pendulum, and canon than I'm really comfortable with.
Rukia was already 150 by canon. Yamamoto died in 2003. We've got 30 years on her and Renji. That's not that much, at all.
We should have gotten more world building, that's for sure. Bleach is weird in that most of the modern world at least looks close to what it should look like. But it very obviously shouldn't. In this case, I figure we have a creative license to be either as crazy as want, or stick to OTL with Bleach elements added in.
**Has anyone read that new novel Kubo put out that takes place outside Japan, that might be helpful in figuring out what things are supposed to look like**
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While I didn't read it personally the spoilers say that apparently in the West Hollows aren't a thing, instead there are monsters called Dragons that are apparently hunted by magical girls.
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So we should ignore this novel is what you're saying.
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I was saying that bleach worldbuilding get worse wenever new material comes out, but this works as well.
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I mean, that stuff about the Soul King in the novels was really good. I don't know much about the story it was included in, but the lore was neat.
Does anyone know exactly when the Quincy were hunted by the Shinigami? The bleach wiki says 200 years ago, so I thought it happened at the end of the 18th century or beginning of the 19th, but I haven't been able to find a more exact time period.
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The Quincy names and symbols used in the series clearly show a Western influence. It made me think that the Quincy headquarters were in Europe, at least prior to the extermination. Why would the Quincy even develop there if Hollows were not a thing?
Also, what is the Quincy extermination event actually called?
What?
The Quincy names and symbols used in the series clearly show a Western influence. It made me think that the Quincy headquarters were in Europe, at least prior to the extermination. Why would the Quincy even develop there if Hollows were not a thing?
Also, what is the Quincy extermination event actually called?
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There is no exact time period. We only have broad strokes.
The Wiki is your friend.
It's called Auswählen
That's just their theme, Kubo's not so deep as to have any of that spelled out. They're German-esque for the same reasons why Hueco Mundo/Hollows are Spanish. It's an artistic choice before anything else.
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"The Quincy were scattered all over the world at one time. They were relatives of magic hunters who specialized in the war against Hollows."
Are these magic hunters the magical girls?
..It kind of makes sense? I mean, the Quincy's obsession with costumes has to come from somewhere.
"The Quincy were scattered all over the world at one time. They were relatives of magic hunters who specialized in the war against Hollows."
Are these magic hunters the magical girls?
..It kind of makes sense? I mean, the Quincy's obsession with costumes has to come from somewhere.
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Yeah that's a good bit, shame that it brought with it
1. Fullbringer that can use as an object of focus the entire creation,
2. the sword that gives the user the abilities of every single Soul Race,
3. the hidden colony of Vasto Lordes that look all the same that goes against what little lore we have about hollows and
4. the Adjuchas that could brawl on an equal ground with Barragan, so Barragan tricked it into attacking Soul Society, said Adjuchas went on a rampage and ate the Soul King and since it was too old and so full of souls that purifying it risked breaking the Wheel of Reincarnation it was melted into a Zampakuto.
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This kind of stuff is why I don't believe the Word of God is absolute. I exercise a "Reader's Veto" for anything dumb or inconsistent, it lets me stay sane.
My relationship with Dragon Ball is a lot like this.
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Exept that they don't hunt Hollows, the Witches hunt Dragons that are unliving things that are invisible to non-magic users. Also they don't seem to be inherently evil like Hollows, Dragons seem to be elementals that can be harvested for resources, they become violent when they come in contact with negative emotions and to interact with the world they posses the body of a living creature recently departed.
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Okay, all I'm getting from this is that Ichigo Kurosaki is part Magical Girl and that's awesome in a hilarious way. Though I am curious why Hollows are more common in the East, and Dragons in the West.
Hmm... Are Hollows essentially Souls that have fused with a Dragon or something? Like, if they become violent because of negative emotions, then either they were purged when Hollows became too commonplace / powerful or nascent Dragons were subsumed by those corrupted souls.
Hmm... Are Hollows essentially Souls that have fused with a Dragon or something? Like, if they become violent because of negative emotions, then either they were purged when Hollows became too commonplace / powerful or nascent Dragons were subsumed by those corrupted souls.
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Please tell me that we're not integrating the magical girls who fight dragons into the quest?
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Please chime in.
Another Question: Who's Kenpachi right now?
Azashiro or Kiganjo?
@stairmaster
Please chime in.
Another Question: Who's Kenpachi right now?
Azashiro or Kiganjo?
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Personally I see no inherent problem with "Dragons" as a concept, especially given all the other methods for supernatural beings. So having a race of pure magic creatures isn't that strange, and honestly I'm surprised it took so long for such to be introduced.
Besides that, Wing Bind does conveniently explain why the events of Bleach never stray outside Asia as a whole and why Soul Society doesn't seem to acknowledge European elements.
@stairmaster: Still, having separate East and West Branches of Soul Society is a big deal setting-wise. So is the general concept of Dragons and Wing Bind in play? There'll be more to process, but Dragons and Wing Bind would be valuable potential resources for Aizen.
Besides that, Wing Bind does conveniently explain why the events of Bleach never stray outside Asia as a whole and why Soul Society doesn't seem to acknowledge European elements.
@stairmaster: Still, having separate East and West Branches of Soul Society is a big deal setting-wise. So is the general concept of Dragons and Wing Bind in play? There'll be more to process, but Dragons and Wing Bind would be valuable potential resources for Aizen.
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I think Kikanjo, Azahiro is the dude from the novel with the Szayel clone? Because in that case he's the seventh Kenpachi
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The timeline for Aza was about 200 years though. That sounds like where we're at, or at least close to it.
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You can definitely fit in 2 short lived Kenpachi's between now and Turn Back the Pendulum.
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We're not having magical girls unless there's good fan art accompanying it. Also I choose to interpret the vasto lorde commune thing as hidden communes lead by a single vasto lorde, not multiple ones, with adjuchas and natural arrancar as followers. Sort of like what might have happened with Halibel if she hadn't ended up meeting aizen and replacing barragan.
The current kenpachi is big boy kiganjo.
Also I kind of just picked 1820 as a date based off of how long it took Renji to become a lieutenant. Also because I fooled around with the idea of having the Taiping rebellion, because of it's massive death toll, as the inciting incident for what lead to the quincy getting eliminated. (No I was not gonna make Hong Xiuquan a quincy)
edit: some of those vasto lorde communes might be a halibel nel situation where theres two vasto lordes living together who are very good friends who also share the same bed.
The current kenpachi is big boy kiganjo.
Also I kind of just picked 1820 as a date based off of how long it took Renji to become a lieutenant. Also because I fooled around with the idea of having the Taiping rebellion, because of it's massive death toll, as the inciting incident for what lead to the quincy getting eliminated. (No I was not gonna make Hong Xiuquan a quincy)
edit: some of those vasto lorde communes might be a halibel nel situation where theres two vasto lordes living together who are very good friends who also share the same bed.
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@stairmaster: Anything specific you're wanting those omakes to cover? Just "Rando who saw Aizen do stuff" and "Quincy things" leaves open a lot of room, but something more specific might help.
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No, I was just trying to lowkey see what people were interested in based off what they wrote an omake about.
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Care to expand on how that was going to go?
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No, mostly the planning resulted in some character concepts which are still probably going to be used in some form in the next couple of arcs.
3. Does it give a description on how they look? The only hollows that fit that description in my opinion are the all black hollows Ulquiorra met as a Vasto Lorde.
4. Wait, I thought Barragan was at a couple thousand years. How old would he have to be when the Soul King fought the Adjuchas?
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Barragan is like eldritch in his age. It's weird how much kubo undersold him.