New 'The Batman' Film (2021?)
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Mazeka
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Saw it myself. Not bad, but "emo teen" Batman is a bit of an acquired taste. Might take some getting used to.
How many people do you think suffered glass-related lacerations when Batman blasted through the skylights?
Also, I've heard some people argue that Pattinson's attempt to be subtle in portraying an emotionally stunted man came across more as wooden. Does anyone else think that?
How many people do you think suffered glass-related lacerations when Batman blasted through the skylights?
Also, I've heard some people argue that Pattinson's attempt to be subtle in portraying an emotionally stunted man came across more as wooden. Does anyone else think that?
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WhiteNights
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I saw the movie tonight with my family.
It might just be a young person thing, but the movie was agonizingly slow. Did it really need to pause for so long on a character's POV that's just breathing heavily? Just how long do you need to linger on a dramatic pose? The "cinematic" close ups on random objects and fuzzy nothing could also be way shorter and still make its point.
You could cut out so much filler and static noise in this film, it did not need 3 hours, it needed a good editor.
I did like the commitment to using practical effects, also the acting (Pattinson and Kravitz especially) was very good (I liked the lines slightly less, but the actors made it work.
I especially liked the civilian rescue scenes near the end
Also - The way Gordon's reaction after each riddle was read aloud rhymed with the riddle was kind of weird? (Kind of good weird but weird). The amount of simple rhythms also stood out...
It might just be a young person thing, but the movie was agonizingly slow. Did it really need to pause for so long on a character's POV that's just breathing heavily? Just how long do you need to linger on a dramatic pose? The "cinematic" close ups on random objects and fuzzy nothing could also be way shorter and still make its point.
You could cut out so much filler and static noise in this film, it did not need 3 hours, it needed a good editor.
I did like the commitment to using practical effects, also the acting (Pattinson and Kravitz especially) was very good (I liked the lines slightly less, but the actors made it work.
I especially liked the civilian rescue scenes near the end
Also - The way Gordon's reaction after each riddle was read aloud rhymed with the riddle was kind of weird? (Kind of good weird but weird). The amount of simple rhythms also stood out...
I wouldn't quite call it wooden, I had the feeling that in the scenes where he's got to be Bruce Wayne he's very much uncomfortable with it and doesn't want to have to do it any longer than necessary. He's much more comfortable around Alfred and Dory but that's mostly because they're his remaining family.
It's different from someone like Kevin Conroy's Bruce in Mask of the Phantasm who threw everything into finally getting closure and moving on with his life until it all fell apart and that break was what pushed him over the edge into becoming Batman. Pattinson is more along the lines of The Question, in that he's pretty much committed to just getting out there and getting into it until it finally kills him.
DracoDracul
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Fantastic film.
I find it fascinating that this film makes Batman feel so human while having so little time out of costume. I think Pattinson's portrayal of Bruce as an awkward try hard dork along with little touches like him having sweaty helmet head help with that.
I find it fascinating that this film makes Batman feel so human while having so little time out of costume. I think Pattinson's portrayal of Bruce as an awkward try hard dork along with little touches like him having sweaty helmet head help with that.
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Box Office: ‘The Batman’ Rules Again, Crosses $300 Million in North America
"The Batman" towers over domestic box office charts in its third weekend. Meanwhile, ""Jujutsu Kaisen 0: The Movie" impressed at second.
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Just saw the movie, gotta be one of The Best Batman portrayals put to film, I give it an 8 or 9 outta 10.
And what really stood out to me was that this wasn't a superhero movie. This was a murder mystery with superhero elements. Just like how Joker was a Drama/Tragedy with sprinklings of comic influence, that worked to make the film seem original and more intense. These gritty realistic Hero/Villain depictions are exactly what the medium needs after the MCU and all it's CGI fantastical showings.
Go for it DC, Superhero fans need a breathe of fresh air on screen.
And what really stood out to me was that this wasn't a superhero movie. This was a murder mystery with superhero elements. Just like how Joker was a Drama/Tragedy with sprinklings of comic influence, that worked to make the film seem original and more intense. These gritty realistic Hero/Villain depictions are exactly what the medium needs after the MCU and all it's CGI fantastical showings.
Go for it DC, Superhero fans need a breathe of fresh air on screen.
So there was a scene that got cut of Batman going to Arkham to consult The Joker to get his thoughts on what The Riddler's motives are kinda like Clarice consulting Hannibal Lecter in The Silence of the Lambs. Turns out that they actually filmed it.
View: https://youtu.be/LJSXgZxaNo0
View: https://youtu.be/LJSXgZxaNo0
Arthur Frayn
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Kind've disappointed to see that Reeves' take on the Joker was basically "What if Ledger's Joker was gross and fucked up looking?". Honestly, glad they cut it - it adds nothing to the movie beyond "Ooooh, the Joker!".
Honestly I think I'm just kind've over iterations on Ledger's "We're the same!"/agent of chaos Joker at this point, especially with progressively grosser/weirder looking faces. Let's see someone play on Nicholson's "Psychopath going through a mid life artistic crisis" energy, or do something like an Evil Johnny Knoxville pulling deadly pranks and heists for fun.
DracoDracul
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I think I actually prefer the cameo at the end.
Personally I didn't care for it. The movie was good enough without the teasing of The Joker. I probably would've been more hyped if it was Joaquin Phoenix, but oh well.
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Can't say I like the scene either. The Joker's look is pretty cringey and edgy, like there was a conscious need to try and one up Ledger in gruesomeness. It doesnt really add much to the movie either, theres already plenty of scenes of characters talking about how things are going. Whats worse is it also kinda spoils the ending twist with the riddler which up till that point wasnt really suggested.
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*unimpressed* 😑
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How Did Barry Keoghan’s Joker Get His Scars? ‘The Batman’ Director Explains the Backstory
Barry Keoghan's Joker has different scars than other on-screen Jokers. Matt Reeves explains this new iteration's backstory.
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Okay, I get the dissatisfaction with the edginess, but I find there actually a certain symmetry here. After all, the Joker was directly inspired by the 1928 film The Man who Laughs, which is of course about a man disfigured to always be smiling in a horrifying grin.*unimpressed* 😑
How Did Barry Keoghan’s Joker Get His Scars? ‘The Batman’ Director Explains the Backstory
Barry Keoghan's Joker has different scars than other on-screen Jokers. Matt Reeves explains this new iteration's backstory.
No idea if Reeves thought of this as a deliberate reference or its just a case of poetic irony, but its not as unfounded as you might think.
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Finally saw this. I usually don't watch superhero stuff these days but I heard this was pretty special. I definitely felt a lot more of a human connection with this Bruce than any other live action version I've seen. Other than that it's… kind of just alright. The music and direction were both quite strong, really got that gothic horror aesthetic across. I dunno, I thought I would have stronger opinions on this movie than I do.
The deleted Joker scene fills me with exhaustion and cringe tho. I am all Jokered out for the next decade.
The deleted Joker scene fills me with exhaustion and cringe tho. I am all Jokered out for the next decade.
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The Batman is supposed to start streaming on HBO Max Apr. 18. I don't have it, so I can't say whether or not it is. It's also slated to air on HBO on April 23, 8 P.M. Eastern.
'The Batman' Crosses the $750 Million Mark at the Global Box Office
'The Batman' Gets 4K Blu-ray and DVD Release Date; Includes Director's Commentary and Deleted Scenes
'The Batman' Crosses the $750 Million Mark at the Global Box Office
'The Batman' Gets 4K Blu-ray and DVD Release Date; Includes Director's Commentary and Deleted Scenes
Alright, I caved and watched it. Dialogue was excellent, Shooting was immaculate, atmosphere was FELT. I wanna see where they take this.
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It's a good scene in isolation, but cutting it was the right move.
Oh most definitely.
Hykal94
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I finished it like half an hour ago, watched it in two parts, over the course of two days. Spoilers for TellTale's Batman too.
The best live action Batman, by far. It's interesting to see how Bruce, despite having doing this for two years, clearly doesn't get it. He fights crime by terrorising criminals instead of tackling the institutions that made these criminals. It's why Selina exists in the movie, and her being Falcone's daughter was a really good idea to include. As is Martha Wayne being an Akrham, and taking hints from TellTale's Batman. It doesn't go as far as TellTale, they honestly got their cake and eat it too, that is Wayne's legacy is poisoned, but also something a 'good man having a moment of weakness.
Is it too long? Yeah maybe. We could probably have gone without Riddler's Proud Boys and the action scene, but I get it. There's not much asskicking for the finale, but the idea of right wing nuts making things worse is a very strong political statement. Riddler is great? He's not Joker's anarchy reigns thing, but very much his own thing. Just some random accountant who snapped. The fake out of him not knowing Bats is Bruce is equally fantastic acting on RobbenBatPat's part.
Zoe Kravitz's Catwoman, best one so far. I mean, it's a low bar, but tying her backstory to the systematic crime and negligence of the law is just great. The fact that she doesn't go Nya at Bats is thankfully averted.
And the best part, clearly, is the ending. Batman's BIG MOMENT is doing something dangerous stupid to save people, him leading the people with the flare like a torchbearer, and the difference between the earlier scene of him saving the dude from the thugs at the beginning, and the lady touching his chest as a symbol of hope? Beautiful. This is it. This is Lawful Good Paladin Bats that's getting his shit together.
Holy shit The Batman is doing Man of Steel's whole "can't relate to others" thing better than that movie did! It's grim, it's dark, but in the end, it's hopeful.
In summary, I hate Zack Snyder. Give me Batman and Robin, Reeves.
The best live action Batman, by far. It's interesting to see how Bruce, despite having doing this for two years, clearly doesn't get it. He fights crime by terrorising criminals instead of tackling the institutions that made these criminals. It's why Selina exists in the movie, and her being Falcone's daughter was a really good idea to include. As is Martha Wayne being an Akrham, and taking hints from TellTale's Batman. It doesn't go as far as TellTale, they honestly got their cake and eat it too, that is Wayne's legacy is poisoned, but also something a 'good man having a moment of weakness.
Is it too long? Yeah maybe. We could probably have gone without Riddler's Proud Boys and the action scene, but I get it. There's not much asskicking for the finale, but the idea of right wing nuts making things worse is a very strong political statement. Riddler is great? He's not Joker's anarchy reigns thing, but very much his own thing. Just some random accountant who snapped. The fake out of him not knowing Bats is Bruce is equally fantastic acting on RobbenBatPat's part.
Zoe Kravitz's Catwoman, best one so far. I mean, it's a low bar, but tying her backstory to the systematic crime and negligence of the law is just great. The fact that she doesn't go Nya at Bats is thankfully averted.
And the best part, clearly, is the ending. Batman's BIG MOMENT is doing something dangerous stupid to save people, him leading the people with the flare like a torchbearer, and the difference between the earlier scene of him saving the dude from the thugs at the beginning, and the lady touching his chest as a symbol of hope? Beautiful. This is it. This is Lawful Good Paladin Bats that's getting his shit together.
Holy shit The Batman is doing Man of Steel's whole "can't relate to others" thing better than that movie did! It's grim, it's dark, but in the end, it's hopeful.
In summary, I hate Zack Snyder. Give me Batman and Robin, Reeves.
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View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogco5RpOzVg
I'll admit, I watched the Joker scene just because SB made a video about it. That told me it was worth something. And I'm glad I did.
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Shanejayell
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I hope Reeves gives us Mr. Freeze in the next movie. He'd fit perfectly in this setting.