Netflix's One Piece

It was well done, yes; I very much liked what they did with the Marines and Syrup village, and the characters where mostly on point, with, in my personal opinion, the big exception of Luffy. However, that wasn't for the bad.

Manga Luffy is an interesting character, in that he's generally silly, but occasionally has these super-intense moments that make you say "yeah, I can see how people would follow this guy through hell" - but in both of these sides of his personality, whether he's being silly or intense, he's always incredibly over the top, to an extent that is almost always shocking. The TV series still had Luffy being mostly silly with the occasional bursts of intensity, but the way in which he did was much more lackadaisical, for lack of a better phrasing; his silliness comes of seemingly taking everything in stride and then his intensity comes out when he decides something should not be taken in stride after all.

And the thing is, while this is a definite change from the source material, I actually think it was a right change to make, because the original over-the-top presence Luffy had, while it worked in a Manga, would not have worked in live action, whereas this approach actually comes across as very realistic. It sorts of humanizes the character in a sense, and I liked it, it's a great example of adapting to the medium.

One interesting thing about the series, which I sort of expected but was good to see confirmed, is that they really cut down on the duration of the fights. I'm not saying that what fights are there didn't work, in fact the fight choreography was good and I enjoyed the stunts, but in terms of back-and-forth and what happened in them? Yeah, they shortened the length of pretty much every fight scene (those they didn't cut, and they cut A TON of fight scenes) down to a relatively brief (pretty much instantaneous compared to the original) set of quick exchanges. Which might seem like it ruins the appeal, but actually I think is one of the primary things that allowed them to run through things so quickly; the fights they choose to keep lost length but mostly maintained the emotional punch they carried, and if anything gives me hope for the possibility of adapting the rest of the series. After all, taking the same approach to all of the fight scenes in later sections of the Manga would really save on costs and effect and allow them to run through what would be dozens or even hundreds of chapters that are just back-to-back fights (I'm thinking of Enies Lobby, Wano and especially Dressrossa) much, much faster than the Manga and Anime managed.

It's really amusing to me that the thing that helps this adaptation the most is cutting down on the one thing Shonen Manga are most known for.
 
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I watched it all in one go yesterday. I couldn't stop. I loved it! It wasn't perfect, but i was never expecting it to be. All the actors did a amazing job and most of the changes where for the better. I'm gonna watching it all again this weekend. Thank you Oda-sensei!
 
Watched the first episode earlier today. Like everyone in this thread, I was pleasantly surprised about how good it was.

I'm liking how they handle the fights. A grounded but still with a bit of Anime flair.
Mr 7 vs Zoro was the highlight fight for me. That sword swing extinguishing all those candles was so anime it was great.

@Egleris put into words exactly how I felt about Luffy here. Different yet still the same at the core.

Can't wait to finish the rest. If you told me One Piece of all things was going to be the one to get a good Live Action adaptation, I would have laughed.
 
Just reached Baratie and oh boy, Sanji is great. Not as obvious a pervert like the manga version but man still corny as heck when it comes to being flirty.

Also the crew needling Nami, that's pure Strawhat Crew interaction there.

I do love the way they used Koby's Marine adventure as the secondary plot to Luffy and crew's in the show. I mean, we only got to see his improvements in the chapter title side stories until Marineford, but we are seeing him on screen (with Bogart! Who have lines!) in the Live Action. There is a chance that other side stories and SBS info will be elevated like this for the second season. That Zoro recruitment pitch scene is fire.
 
Can't wait to finish the rest. If you told me One Piece of all things was going to be the one to get a good Live Action adaptation, I would have laughed.
Maybe this was what Roger found…

But yeah, it's kinda mindblowing that something in live action was able to capture both One Piece's whimsy and intensity, both on its own for a new audience (the first episode is VERY Pirates of the Caribbean, really grabs that Black Pearl magic in the initial scenes) and by putting in so, so much groundwork for an audience familiar with the manga. My wife was hopping up and down with glee whenever Zoro was on screen despite never having touched the manga (his candle trick in particular immediately grabbed her attention); meanwhile, to my shock, I actually teared up a tiny bit at "You can talk?" I guess some scars never heal.

Never in a million years thought I'd watch a One Piece adaptation and say multiple times "Dang, I wish that scene had been in the manga" but I guess that's just the power of dreams. And millions of dollars. But mostly dreams.
 
People are complaining that there are too many Marines in the first season, Smoker not in the first season, and Garp calling in Mihawk (and actually name-dropped Shichibukai, AND revealing Mihawk's bounty as Annulled on screen) to attack Luffy at Baratie does not make sense. The thing is, it's kind of obvious that the show is establishing the world building for future seasons. In the manga, we were drip fed the info further in because most likely Oda has yet to figure out these things yet - he is working on a weekly manga - and he is searching for the right timing for the reveals.

This is a 10-episode per season TV show with 1000+ chapters worth of source material. They are cramming all the initial world building here, in the first season, so that newcomers won't get confused with the Gorosei and the Enies Lobby and the Cipher Pols later on. They NEED to show the WG affiliates do exist, and is active in the world, so that the audience will know that THIS is the overarching enemy for Luffy's dream to become Pirate King, not just the random pirates he met in the ocean.

Smoker as East Blue Arc's antagonist won't work, because Smoker canonically get himself stationed in Logue Town precisely because he knows it is the the only way an aspiring pirate will use to reach Grand Line. He has ZERO reason to roam the East Blue chasing after a kid, especially with the likes of Alvida and Buggy on the loose. He was stationed at Alabasta after that, because he is the closest elemental DF user that has a good probability of subduing Crocodile in Alabasta. Garp worked as the antagonist because East Blue is his ocean, his backyard. Fuusha Village is literally his home island. He canonically went there to pickup Koby and Helmeppo in the side stories, and adjusting his trajectory to go and chase Luffy around in the meantime 'to test his resolve' fits the guy's MO to a tee. Man did exactly that in Water Seven.

All of this is in the manga. Did these people forget that. Logue Town is Important. Smoker's position there is central to the Entering the Grand Line arc. I legit do not remember Klahadore actually have crew members outside of Jango the Hypnotist and the other guy, but I do remember Logue Town.

The presentation does come off as a bit clunky, but the shuffling works. It chronologically fits the manga/anime progression. The complains do not make sense.

Edit: Also Mihawk is NOT a pirate. He is a swordsman who likes to fight a little bit too much. Joining Shichibukai is him taking the easy route of not being shoved into a jail everytime he did a bit of landscaping. Garp willing to call him to confront Luffy still fits Garp's pirate-hating credo.


TLDR: Smoker doesn't work as East Blue Arc antagonist because he only chases pirates with bounty, and Luffy only gets a Bounty after he defeats Arlong. If he patrols East Blue, logically he will go after Arlong and Buggy, not Luffy. Garp fits because he has personal reasons to chase Luffy and he did go to East Blue to pick cadets Koby and Helmeppo. People who thought otherwise never really read the early chapters.
 
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Indeed, not only that, but I would argue that this is actually encouraging for the prospect of at least a second season.

Basically, they have established with this first one that, as far as the TV series is concerned, One Piece is "Luffy moves through islands connected by a overarching plot thread that will lead to the season's final villain (the whole thing with the map for Arlong), while the Marines chase after him". If the second season covers to the end of Alabasta, it could be easily framed in the same manner (overarching plot-tread vs final villain, marine in pursuit), and that would give TV-only viewers the same kind of experience, which is actually very important for building a following where a TV series is concerned. As I said, I really liked what they did with the Marines in this season - if they ever make it to Marinford, this kind of work will pay off spectacularly.

And, as I said before, it makes sense they would delay Logue Town - that's one less person to cast in season 1, which would have needed to be in season 2 anyway. Leaving Logue Town as the potential start of season 2 was the right call to make.
 
Can't wait to finish the rest. If you told me One Piece of all things was going to be the one to get a good Live Action adaptation, I would have laughed.
I admit I've been sold since the first trailer. Once I saw that I was convinced that if it failed to be good it would not be for lack of passion or skill, but due to the limitations of live action as a medium.

I also like that they took advantage of elements that are easier in live action such as having more outfits for the characters.
 
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It's good, probably wouldn't really surpass the beauty of the manga so... It didn't even try, instead it went in another just as beautiful direction, the sets and actors stole the show for me,

It really felt like experiencing "One-Piece" all over again.

If you are interested please watch it, the crew who put this all together really deserve all the accolades they earned and I really want something this fun and colorful to have mainstream success
 
I genuinely think it's getting a lot of traction among people who aren't one piece fans or even anime fans because there was a lot of emphasis on making sure it was comprehensible and well paced as a show.

You know what it reminds me of? The Sam Rami Spider-Man films. Both are very earnest and feel more faithful than they really are because they capture the heart of the work being adapted.
 
I genuinely think it's getting a lot of traction among people who aren't one piece fans or even anime fans because there was a lot of emphasis on making sure it was comprehensible and well paced as a show.
Well, yeah, that's why I want to watch it. One Piece is a cultural juggernaut, but I'm really not in the mood of watching 1200 episodes ; a Netflix miniseries is perfect.
 
Another thing that really helps is that the show is sincere not just in that it's from people that have a lot of love for the source material, but that the characters treat the exaggerated world that they live in as real.

An evil Clown pirate has kidnapped an entire town, forced them to watch his circus, and its presented as a genuinely dire situation rather than a punchline.

Also I think Buggy getting significantly more screen time than he would have otherwise is very meta. Keep failing upward Clown boy.
 
I mentioned this over is the Ahsoka thread. But it's really striking to me how well paced this was compared to a lot of the Disney TV Star Wars/Marvel shows where it just feels like the episodes are a choppes up movie that runs until they reach their next designated cliff hanger.
 
I mentioned this over is the Ahsoka thread. But it's really striking to me how well paced this was compared to a lot of the Disney TV Star Wars/Marvel shows where it just feels like the episodes are a choppes up movie that runs until they reach their next designated cliff hanger.
I think that's a benefit of being a direct adaptation of an existing work. While there are scenes created or recontextualuzed for the show, a lot of it the adaptation process is subtractive.

What has to be cut for budget? What can be cut for time? What plot threads can be combined? The risk for this was always hoping to be trying to cram too much into the allotted time as they would get to the point of in name only adaptation long before they hit a point stretching for time.
 
I think that's a benefit of being a direct adaptation of an existing work. While there are scenes created or recontextualuzed for the show, a lot of it the adaptation process is subtractive.

What has to be cut for budget? What can be cut for time? What plot threads can be combined? The risk for this was always hoping to be trying to cram too much into the allotted time as they would get to the point of in name only adaptation long before they hit a point stretching for time.
A big part of that is the "adapt arc into episode or two" thing I think- it means most episodes have predetermined well defined beginnings, middles, and ends, instead of the episodes just being a way of breaking up the serial with little narrative structure of their own.
 
A big part of that is the "adapt arc into episode or two" thing I think- it means most episodes have predetermined well defined beginnings, middles, and ends, instead of the episodes just being a way of breaking up the serial with little narrative structure of their own.
Yep, even though it's technically pretty serialized, it comes in the form of having a hook for the next episode after the current conflict is resolved.
 
A big part of that is the "adapt arc into episode or two" thing I think- it means most episodes have predetermined well defined beginnings, middles, and ends, instead of the episodes just being a way of breaking up the serial with little narrative structure of their own.

The thing is . . . That's what writers are FOR.

Don't get me wrong, it's REALLY hard to do. But there are decades of experience in how to pace a television episode to get a story told in 22 or 45 minutes while also moving forward and overarching plot.

One of the biggest issues I've had with Disney's high budget live action shows is that they frequently lack good time discipline, while the One Piece Adaptation, every episode felt both longer than they actually were, and at the same time, incredibly satisfying so that I wanted to start the next episode right away.

And this is despite the fact that I honestly didn't care for the whole flashback format. I really liked the show even though I hate flashbacks! (And yes, I know the flashbacks to each character's childhood is pulled directly from the manga.)
 
If this can be like a One Piece Kai, that would be perfect.

I liked the first season. But I wonder if the same pace can be maintained for later seasons.
 
Depends how many episodes they can get per season, I guess. What's even the standard length of a live-action season nowadays? Both this and The Witcher had 8 episodes, but House of the Dragon had 10 and.... those are about the only live-action things I've watched the last couple years.
 
Alabasta at least could probably be covered in 8 episodes; a lot of that arc's length is running around in circles, which can be cut easily.

Episode 1 is Logue Town, ending on them climbing Reverse Mountain. That's pretty straightforward.

Meeting Laboon and recruiting Vivi is obviously mandatory, as is the explanation of the Grand Line mechanics and the log pose. I imagine they will want to also have at least a few scenes of navigating through the Grand Line's insane weather, so overall at least half an episode will be devoted to that; however, that could also be spread across multiple episodes.

Little Garden is potentially entirely skippable, but if they decide to go through it, it could probably be compressed to one episode, although two would likely let it flow better; Whiskey Peak is also something they can skip, but what they cannot do is skip both of them, not if they want to have Baroque Works be a ramping up threat. I say, budged two episodes for these, with Whiskey Peak combined with the Laboon section, and Little Garden left to itself.

Then there is Drum Kingdom; I don't think they'd cut the recruitment of Chopper, however, Drum Kingdom could potentially be pushed back to season three, since Skypea does not actually have enough material. There's also the matter to consider that Chopper would be an absolutely big increase in the budget, as a recurring animatronic character. Still, if they do Drum Kingdom, they can probably get away with giving it only one episode - considering how much they cut the "scrambling back and forth" from Syrup Village and Arlong Park to condense those, I can see Drum being subject to the same type of development.

So, that's four episodes - half the season - dedicated to the journey through the Grand Line and the rising threat of Baroque Works; then, the second half of the season can dedicate four full episodes to Alabasta - considering the Alabasta island section of the story was condensed to a single two hour movie before, and considering their approach to cutting fights, I expect they can deal with the whole thing if they have four hours to work with. An heavily compressed timeline could probably handle it even in just three.

As far as plot points to cover, there's the arrival, meeting Ace, the Ace vs Smoker fight, talking with Vivi's rebel friends, the first confrontation with Crocodile at the casino, the clash between the rebel forces and the royalist, the Strawhat fighting Baroque Works so that Vivi and Luffy can punch through, the second confrontation with Crocodile, the Strawhat and Vivi disarming Crocodile's bomb, Robin betraying Crocodile after reading the Ponyeglyph, Luffy's final fight with Crocodile, and the denouement with Vivi staying behind. Some of these could easily be combined or cut - especially the ending, where the search for the bomb and the fight with Baroque Works can be combined, and Luffy's second defeat at Crocodile's hands can easily be skipped; Ace can potentially be postponed to a future season as well.
So... if they do decide to run a second season, 8 episodes would probably suffice for it - and of course, there's a lot that can be done to the Alabasta arc to streamline it to make it fit, especially if they take the same approach the first season took. It'll just be a matter to see how they decide to handle it, if indeed they do.
 
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So I finally watched ep. 1 & 2. I'm watching this with family so I don't want to binge it.

I genuinely think it's getting a lot of traction among people who aren't one piece fans or even anime fans because there was a lot of emphasis on making sure it was comprehensible and well paced as a show

It's a live action, it got all the people who wouldn't touch anything animated with a 10 foot pole (this is the only way I would ever get my dad to watch one piece)

My thoughts so far on the episodes -

Episode 1: very good, great pacing

Episode 2: here they definitely sacrificed a lot for the sake of exposition and monologuing. They cut out a lot (the town story, the action) and then stretched what they had a bit too much (fitting considering the devil fruits appearing in the episode). My dad (first time watcher) did lose attention enough to comment about it, the battle in the end saved it (and its cgi is probably why they cut down the set budget).

Still, a great job at adapting, very much managed to keep the heart of the series.

(I still prefer the manga/anime storyline more…)
 
I've watched it, it's really really good and probably the way I'm gonna recommend anyone interested in getting into one piece experience it first since it condenses seventy plus episodes of tv/chapters of manga into 8 episodes. It also felt like Oda was getting a second pass at the story and writing in stuff he only thought of later/removing stuff he regretted- the lack of body shaming with Alvida really stood out. The fights toned down in terms of how high-power they were was a nice touch for budget saving and because it lets Nami keep up way more.

EDIT: I also *adore* the redesign of the Marine Battleship being like an 1860s-1870s early ironclad, with sails but still broadsides? Was an inspired touch.
 
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Gotta agree, I liked the rewrite of Shell Town and Syrup Village especially - they really tightened things a lot but in a way that felt true to the spirit of the story. Honestly, I can't think of any changes the series made that weren't for the better, either in general or in terms of being a good decision due to the limits of the medium they needed to work with.

I would agree that the TV series is a good recommendation in terms of "this is how to get the gist of One Piece quickly" and a very effective introduction to One Piece, and it's really very well done, but even with that, I do feel it loses some intensity - sort of inevitable when they can't really include certain over-the-top sequences or give certain events the 50+ chapters of development they needed to land with their full power. I would still say that people who only watch the TV series are losing out on stuff, but I would agree that overall, for people without the time or appreciation for the medium required for the manga/anime, it's a pretty solid substitute... at least, as far as this first season is concerned.

If they can make it all the way to at least Enies Lobby (so four seasons, possibly three if they skip or truncate Skypea,which they easily could), maintaining this level of quality, the series would easily land in the top rungs of television series ever, even if it didn't adapt anything after. After all, and somewhat fittingly, while it is interesting and emotional compared to many other stories, the East Blue arc is absurdly shallow when compared to the later, better things that One Piece has in store.
 
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I think they're being overly optimistic about the timeline.
variety.com

‘One Piece’ Producers Say Scripts for a Season 2 Are ‘Ready,’ Episodes Could Air 12-18 Months After Strikes End

On the heels of its splashy debut, the producers behind Netflix’s “One Piece” say scripts for a possible Season 2 are completed and that the next season could be “ready to a…
"We've got scripts ready," Marty Adelstein, CEO of Tomorrow Studios, which produces the live-action "One Piece" in partnership with manga creator Eiichiro Oda and publisher Shueisha, told Variety Thursday.

Though production on a potential second season would not be able to begin until the SAG-AFTRA strike against the AMPTP has been resolved, Tomorrow Studios president Becky Clements says once they're allowed to get going again, Season 2 could launch as early as next year.

"Realistically, hopefully, a year away, if we move very quickly, and that is a possibility," Clements said. "Somewhere between a year and 18 months, we could be ready for air."

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Netflix did not respond to request for comment on a "One Piece" Season 2 renewal.

Tomorrow Studios suffered a less than successful launch of its live-action adaptation of "Cowboy Bebop" for Netflix, with that series being canceled less than a month after it premiered in 2021.
 
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