Netflix's One Piece

On the other hand, live action adaptation of anime largely flop hard.
Yeah, but that's mostly because they mess around with the plot and characterizations, trying to "improve" them and failing to understand that, when something is popular, you want to preserve as much of it as you're able to, most importantly the spirit of it above all. It's not that changing things is bad, it's often needed, but it only works when the changes are in favor of keeping something's spirit intact over superficial elements.

It's not unlike the way a lot of superhero movie failed due to the creators doing things like ripping out the heart of what the characters were about or redesigning everything for a "realistic" look that doesn't fit the material. As I said, if they don't mess up too much with the story, characters and effects, then it could be successful.

After all, it might be less common, but there have been successful adaptations of anime and manga, even in the west - "Speed Racer" and "Edge of Tomorrow" are good movies, and "Alita - Battle Angel" would have been too if it wasn't so obviously just the first half of a movie. It's just harder for anime/manga properties to be adapted well because there's less fans of them (that is, people who like the stories and understand where the appeal of them comes from) among the people that have the power to helm a western adaptation than there is for western superheroes. And that's really just a matter of time - anime is younger than superhero comics by about fifty years or so, meaning that the good movies of today are the equivalent of the first good superhero movies, like the original Superman in 1978. So, considering Iron Man started the boom of "good superhero adaptations" in 2008, that means we have perhaps thirty years to go before good anime/manga adaptations by western authors become the norm, rather than the exception.

Of course, the One Piece adaptation could well be one of the exception, as I mentioned. Visually they seem to be in the right place, but that's always the easy part with anime/manga - the characters have distinctive looks and there's an industry specialized in replicating those looks, professionals just need to copy that. The plot, characterization and especially effects is where it'll raise or fail. To be seen is where those will fall on the spectrum between awful and astounding.
 
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See, that felt pretty in character for me.

What didn't feel in character was Zoro disagreeing that cool people shout attack names
 
See, that felt pretty in character for me.

What didn't feel in character was Zoro disagreeing that cool people shout attack names

I think Zoro would believe that in the beginning of the series (partly because he has a katana in his mouth)
It changes as they go farther into the grand line (because then he learns to talk and shout with a katana in his mouth)
 
New trailer out:


View: https://twitter.com/animetv_jp/status/1682556205581885440?s=20

I'm not sure if I've seen it mentioned how many episodes this is getting, but I think the anime took like 20 episodes to get to the Arlong Park stuff shown here? You could shave a bunch of time off the early straw hat recruitments (they each got like 2-3 episodes per recruitment arc or something?) and probably a bunch more if you're not trying to set up Smoker and a bunch of other stuff for later. If it's still the usual 10-ish episodes that still implies some pretty brisk pacing, though I guess these live action shows are usually 40 minute episodes like the witcher that just about adds up?
 
New trailer out:


View: https://twitter.com/animetv_jp/status/1682556205581885440?s=20

I'm not sure if I've seen it mentioned how many episodes this is getting, but I think the anime took like 20 episodes to get to the Arlong Park stuff shown here? You could shave a bunch of time off the early straw hat recruitments (they each got like 2-3 episodes per recruitment arc or something?) and probably a bunch more if you're not trying to set up Smoker and a bunch of other stuff for later. If it's still the usual 10-ish episodes that still implies some pretty brisk pacing, though I guess these live action shows are usually 40 minute episodes like the witcher that just about adds up?

Iirc i heard something about like 8-10 hours long eps for the season, but I don't recall where.
 
The...New York Times?! That's not an outlet I expected to scoop this.
www.hollywoodreporter.com

Why ‘One Piece’ Creator Changed His Stance on a Live-Action Adaptation: “I Realized Times Had Changed”

In a rare interview, Eiichiro Oda explains how advances in technology and 'Shaolin Soccer' inspired the belief that his global hit could find success where other manga adaptations had not.
"When I first started, I didn't think there was any point in drawing a manga that could be remade in live-action," Oda said. "But when I saw [Stephen Chow's] movie, it felt like a manga-esque world brought to life."

It was at that point, he says, that he changed his mind — with a little help from technological advances. "I realized times had changed, and there was technology available that could make a live-action One Piece happen. So I shifted to finding the right partner to bring the manga to life."

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"A live-action adaptation of a manga doesn't simply re-enact the source material on a one-to-one basis: It involves really thinking about what fans love about the characters, the dynamics among them — and being faithful to those elements," he told the NYT. "A good live-action show doesn't have to change the story too much. The most important thing is whether the actors can reproduce the characters in a way that will satisfy the people who read the manga. I think we did it well, so I hope audiences will accept it."
 
Shaolin Soccer!? That movie came out in 2001!


I suppose if nothing else it means they took the time to (hopefully) get this right
 
This looks somewhat interesting even without having seen the anime, but there's always the big problem of being a streaming show, you can never know if it's going to be cancelled or even pulled off completely from the line-up, so whatever story they're planning it better fit in a season. If not then why bother watching and get invested?
 
Only seen the first episode so far, and while there are a couple of gripes I could have it's generally pretty solid? The fight choreography, in particular, is genuinely excellent, especially whenever Zoro's on screen. Luffy doesn't seem quite as, um, monkey-brained as the manga, but he does just exude enthusiasm, which is great.

In general they've done a great job in translating the character designs to live action without making them look too silly.

The only real head-scratchers I have are:

Zoro's refusal to escape or get rescued because he's a stubborn cuss (right up until the little girl was threatened) was cut, probably for time. Which is a shame, because it really served to emphasise the self-destructive lengths he'd go to just to prove a point - and, more importantly, what he values even over his own pride. But, some things have to go I guess.

Also, it kind of looks like Garp is standing in for Smoker?

Right, to watch some more!
 
This looks somewhat interesting even without having seen the anime, but there's always the big problem of being a streaming show, you can never know if it's going to be cancelled or even pulled off completely from the line-up, so whatever story they're planning it better fit in a season. If not then why bother watching and get invested?
Luckily One Piece is very much structured in a manner that allows it to break down into seasons easily - while there is an overarching narrative, the individual story arcs usually revolve around a specific location and what goes down in that place and with the individual set of villains populating it, each one with its own climax. So, even if they don't make it all the way to the end, each season would allow the watcher to invest on the plot of the season itself and the defeat of the seasonal villain.

In fact, here, it's extremely easy to break down how that would go:

Season 1 - East Blue (getting the crew together)
Season 2 - Alabasta
Season 3 - Skypea
Season 4 - Water 7/Enies Lobby
Season 5 - Thriller Bark
Season 6 - Impel Down & the war of the summit
Season 6.5 - Fishman Island (very likely to be folded into either the preceding or the following season, possibly split even)
Season 7 - Punk Hazard/Dressrosa
Season 8 - Whole Cake Island
Season 9 - Wano

And that's more or less where the manga is now - in that the currently ongoing story arc is the one that comes after the end of the Wano arc; in theory this story arc should be the last one of the manga, but it's yet to be seen how long it will last and what exactly it'll contain - personally, I'm thinking there's at least two more story arcs left after this, but we'll see.

In any case, if they wanted to commit to a ten seasons show, One Piece would make it easy on them to figure out the season breaking points. And while not all arcs are made equal - the story arcs for what I labeled season 4 and 6 are super-popular, with the latter likely being the manga's current high point in many people's minds - each one would give watchers enough to invest into them, with the overarching story being more of a vague goal of the characters than a proper reason for the viewers to get invested.

Also, it kind of looks like
If you look at my outline above, it would make sense to delay introducing that particular character, as it would fit better being introduced in the first episode of the potential second season, given the role said character would play at the climax of it. These are the kind of consideration a show like this would make - opening with his introduction and having him as a presence throughout the second season could even help with the pacing of it, which is one of the weaknesses of the Alabasta arc.
 
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I am enjoying the show so far. Just got into the second episode and holy shit Buggy's actor nailed his character so hard. Literally everyone is so good at playing their characters. Seriously, how are they all this good?

I did notice Luffy rarely call out his attacks, he only calls out his attack to make a point.

Even the plot changes work, somehow, in the way that actually makes sense for the brisk pacing they are going for the season. They are finishing off East Blue this season, with next season presumably Alabasta and maybe Skypiea.
 
I might actually watch this despite not seeing much of the original.

Not because live action, but because it condenses the intimidatingly long original while being liked as authentic by fans of that original.
 
with next season presumably Alabasta and maybe Skypiea.
No way can those two be condensed into a single season, that'd destroy the pacing. If anything, I could see some of the portions of the Alabasta arc being moved to the Skypea's arc just to let the whole Alabasta story have the time to breathe it needs.
 
Just finished, that was excellent. I can clearly tell that the people that made this love the series :D

All the actors for the Straw Hats did a great job, especially Emily Rudd as Nami.
 
How in the actual fuck are we now denizens of a world where One Piece is the first anime to get a good Hollywood live action adaptation!? Because I just finished it and it's good. I had extremely negative expectation and have been rendered into a state of euphoric shock and disbelief.

Seriously how is this actually good!? Hollywood fumbles absolute lay ups like Cowboy Bebob and Ghost in the Shell and then they somehow nail One Piece.

As a communist it disgusts me to say this put please watch this legally. Netflix needs to make back the absurd 17 mil an episode they spent on this so they can throw an equally absurd amount of money at a season 2.
 
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I'm not at all surprised by the state of the show. Eichiro (Genius) Oda has been taking endless breaks from drawing manga all summer. When the original creator is so involved in the process with (rumored to be) great creative freedom, good things come out.
 
How in the actual fuck are we now denizens of a world where One Piece is the first anime to get a good Hollywood live action adaptation!? Because I just finished it and it's good. I had extremely negative expectation and have been rendered into a state of euphoric shock and disbelief.

Seriously how is this actually good!? Hollywood fumbles absolute lay ups like Cowboy Bebob and Ghost in the Shell and then they somehow nail One Piece.

As a communist it disgusts me to say this put please watch this legally. Netflix needs to make back the absurd 17 mil an episode they spent on this so they can throw an equally absurd amount of money at a season 2.

Haven't watched the series yet, but the answer is over a decade of experience in bringing One Piece to life, starting from the 2001-2003 jump festa plays to the the live attraction that ran from 2015-2020.

And to that the improvement in cgi over the decades
(And probably every fantastic four movie as a trial in rubber powers)

Oda was also heavily involved in the live action, which is also always important.
 
Haven't watched the series yet, but the answer is over a decade of experience in bringing One Piece to life, starting from the 2001-2003 jump festa plays to the the live attraction that ran from 2015-2020.

And to that the improvement in cgi over the decades
(And probably every fantastic four movie as a trial in rubber powers)

Oda was also heavily involved in the live action, which is also always important.
Yes to all of the above, but I think the secret spice was love.

It seems a lot of the important people involved actually really love one piece. The screenwriter (Matt Owens) for the show did a tierlist of the one piece arcs here, and it's surprisingly based. The actors for Nami and Zoro are both weebs and OP fans.

I think a certain level of love can elevate an adaption despite obstacles, while the inverse is also true.
 
I must be the only person in the world who thinks, outside of the moment with Ace, Marineford was kinda mid. :V
 
Yeah, I am pleasently surprised. I have minor quibbles about how some of the cut stuff weakens the crew/character dynamics, but I also don't see how they could have realisticly kept more thant they did. Really, the only way to make that 'better' would be stretching it out to the same length as the manga/anime, but the faster pace is a great change and I don't think a series as long as the anime could get made with such a high buget. Overall, I am cautiously optimistic about this serious and I can't wait for it to continue.
 
If it's as good as reported I'm hoping they can pull off Alabasta before the plug inevitably gets pulled, that would be a good spot to end One Piece early if you have to do so.
 
If it's as good as reported I'm hoping they can pull off Alabasta before the plug inevitably gets pulled, that would be a good spot to end One Piece early if you have to do so.
Season 1 sets up Baroque Works pretty heavily and leaves off in a position to make Alabasta and it's connected islands the whole of Season 2, so I'd say it's likely enough if Netflix doesn't implode, which may happen.
 
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