Perhaps honesty I find the setting weird, not sure how big the land under the dome is but there are limits to waging war...

I think it's akin to wars between Ancient Greece and Persia. A large number of easily defendable chokepoints, maybe an overextension of logistical routes on the robots' side, for example, huge amounts of energy required to stabilize the Rift and the Dome and to pass through dimensions.

I believe that Lazarus has an explanation. Maybe we'll even find it out in the course of the quest.
 
[X] Ask about the people
-[X] Continue Leslie's gossip about the elites like...Anastasia?

[X] Ask about the war

Senpai! A-and the war, gotta drag attention away from our inevitable bumbling.
 
I should consider starting an art thread...
 
[X] Ask about the people
-[X] Everyone in general
[X] Ask about the base
-[X] The ranks
[X] Ask what's so wrong about Leslie

Something in their interactions was strange.
 
[X] Ask about the people
-[X] Everyone in general
[X] Ask about the base
-[X] The ranks
[X] Ask what's so wrong about Leslie
 
-[X]Ask about the war
-[X] Ask about the base
--[X] low pilot numbers considering the war
--[X] The ranks
--[X] The schedule
[X] Ask about the people
-[X] Continue Leslie's gossip about the elites like...Anastasia?
[X] Ask what's so wrong about Leslie
 
2 Ask about war + Ask about base; ranks & schedule (Icipall, Arbitracom)
2 Ask about people; Leslie on Anastasia (Spectrum, Military)
2 Ask about people; everyone + Ask about base; ranks + Leslie issues? (Ghost, Nuker)
1 Ask about base; ranks & schedule (Axel Fones)
1 Ask about war + Ask about base; low pilot & ranks & schedule + Ask about people; Leslie on Anastasia (Jrin)
1 Ask about people; Leslie on Anastasia + Ask about war (Spicy)
1 Ask about war + Ask about base; low pilot & ranks & schedule + Ask about people; Leslie on Anastasia + Leslie issues? (OffBrand)
Current count.
 
If there's no tiebreaker by 5:00 today, I'll just roll a die. Want to push one last update out, since I'll be busy with finals and likely won't be able to do anything else for the next week.
 
[X] Ask about the people
-[X] Continue Leslie's gossip about the elites like...Anastasia?
[X] Ask about the war
 
Did someone say Tiebreaker?

[X] Ask about the people
-[X] Everyone in general
[X] Ask about the base
-[X] The ranks
[X] Ask what's so wrong about Leslie

I guess I was ninja'd. No matter.

And yes, don't ask about Nastya-san. We are the mountain, she is Mohammad, not the other way around. :V
 
Well since there's six people asking about Anastasia one way or another I'll switch to any of them to consolidate votes.

[X] Ask about the people
-[X] Continue Leslie's gossip about the elites like...Anastasia?
[X] Ask about the war
 
3 A: Ask about people; everyone + Ask about base; ranks + Leslie issues? (Ghost, Nuker, Raiseth)
3 B: Ask about people; Leslie on Anastasia + Ask about war (Spicy, Nevill, Military)

2 Ask about war + Ask about base; ranks & schedule (Icipall, Arbitracom)
2 Ask about people; Leslie on Anastasia (Spectrum)
1 Ask about base; ranks & schedule (Axel Fones)
1 Ask about war + Ask about base; low pilot & ranks & schedule + Ask about people; Leslie on Anastasia (Jrin)
1 Ask about war + Ask about base; low pilot & ranks & schedule + Ask about people; Leslie on Anastasia + Leslie issues? (OffBrand)

Voting is locked, (A bit late there, sorry) update is on the way. Rolling die; odd for option A, even for option B
ColdGoldLazarus threw 1 6-faced dice. Total: 5
5 5
 
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[Intermission] Clearing The Air
Okay, update has wound up going really long, so I've got it saved in a google doc and have been working through it when I can. Things should go smoother now that finals are over, too.

But this post isn't about that.

That "I don't know what I'm doing" tag up top? That isn't there just for the memes, it's a genuine expression of my feelings as QM. Like, story-wise I'm fine; got notes on all the characters, some possible events later down the line, and a general sense of what's up in a way that isn't too open-ended or too restrictive, I would hope.

But regardless, I feel like I'm handling this quest really poorly on some level, and I've been trying to figure out why that is and how to fix it. Part of this is because of what was brought up in the "SV has an odd problem" thread, and part of it is because of the weirdly sexual tone I set early on with a particular option, when we were deciding on Alexandra's looks. You know the one. I brought this up in a discord chat, but I figured here might be a better place since... you know... this is the actual quest thread. One thing that was pointed out was that despite ostensibly being eighteen, Alexandra feels like more of a teenager than a young adult, and on rereading the threadmarks thus far, I'm getting that feeling as well. I'm not sure why that is, but it's definitely there, and definitely needs to be fixed.

So yeah, basically, I wanted to go ahead and open a discussion on some of the missteps this quest has had so far, particularly in terms of overall tone and treatment of the characters, (though if anyone has suggestions on other aspects, feel free to throw those in as well) and how I might go about fixing them.
 
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Okay, update has wound up going really long, so I've got it saved in a google doc and have been working through it when I can. Things should go smoother now that finals are over, too.

But this post isn't about that.

That "I don't know what I'm doing" tag up top? That isn't there just for the memes, it's a genuine expression of my feelings as QM. Like, story-wise I'm fine; got notes on all the characters, some possible events later down the line, and a general sense of what's up in a way that isn't too open-ended or too restrictive, I would hope.

But regardless, I feel like I'm handling this quest really poorly on some level, and I've been trying to figure out why that is and how to fix it. Part of this is because of what was brought up in the "SV has an odd problem" thread, and part of it is because of the weirdly sexual tone I set early on with a particular option, when we were deciding on Alexandra's looks. You know the one. I brought this up in a discord chat, but I figured here might be a better place since... you know... this is the actual quest thread. One thing that was pointed out was that despite ostensibly being eighteen, Alexandra feels like more of a teenager than a young adult, and on rereading the threadmarks thus far, I'm getting that feeling as well. I'm not sure why that is, but it's definitely there, and definitely needs to be fixed.

So yeah, basically, I wanted to go ahead and open a discussion on some of the missteps this quest has had so far, particularly in terms of overall tone and treatment of the characters, (though if anyone has suggestions on other aspects, feel free to throw those in as well) and how I might go about fixing them.

Speaking from experience, 18 isn't really a magical number of years you need to reach in order to suddenly mature and become an adult. So it isn't inconceivable for Alex to act like a teenager.

If you don't want her to, then, well, congratulations, she's in a warzone now. People have to mature quickly in a warzone. So now you have both a characterization of Alex and an opportunity for character development.

About oversexualization. I don't see it. Really, I don't. Yeah, there was an option, ( I actually thought it was kinda funny ) aaaaaand that's it? Alex doesn't even seem to fully realize she's gay IC. So yeah, stop beating yourself over it.
 
So yeah, basically, I wanted to go ahead and open a discussion on some of the missteps this quest has had so far, particularly in terms of overall tone and treatment of the characters, (though if anyone has suggestions on other aspects, feel free to throw those in as well) and how I might go about fixing them.
There's a lot of breaks to vote on relatively minor things. Which makes sense since we're establishing the character and all the NPCs on top of basically being in the prologue. But it still feels like it's dragging a bit.
 
Speaking from experience, 18 isn't really a magical number of years you need to reach in order to suddenly mature and become an adult. So it isn't inconceivable for Alex to act like a teenager.

If you don't want her to, then, well, congratulations, she's in a warzone now. People have to mature quickly in a warzone. So now you have both a characterization of Alex and an opportunity for character development.

About oversexualization. I don't see it. Really, I don't. Yeah, there was an option, ( I actually thought it was kinda funny ) aaaaaand that's it? Alex doesn't even seem to fully realize she's gay IC. So yeah, stop beating yourself over it.
There's a lot of breaks to vote on relatively minor things. Which makes sense since we're establishing the character and all the NPCs on top of basically being in the prologue. But it still feels like it's dragging a bit.
These are pretty much my thoughts as well.
 
One thing that was pointed out was that despite ostensibly being eighteen, Alexandra feels like more of a teenager than a young adult, and on rereading the threadmarks thus far, I'm getting that feeling as well. I'm not sure why that is, but it's definitely there, and definitely needs to be fixed.
If there's any sense of that, IMV it's because Alexandra's personality is playing off mostly childish characters around her between the superior that had the most screentime and the foibles of the rest of her cohort.

So yeah, basically, I wanted to go ahead and open a discussion on some of the missteps this quest has had so far, particularly in terms of overall tone and treatment of the characters, (though if anyone has suggestions on other aspects, feel free to throw those in as well) and how I might go about fixing them.
Respectfully, if there are any problems from my perspective it's been primarily pacing in-character and out. A lot of small updates where not much time passed and occasional real world breaks between updates.
 
I don't mind the real world breaks, those happen all the time from my experience. Your spacing might be longer then some, but it also feels shorter then others. The in-character pacing does feel like more of a issue but it isn't awful for a beginner QM or anything, speaking from my experience.

I can't really comment on sexual tones or anything, given that I haven't read the "A Certain Problem" thread in-depth. And that Alexandra feels more like a Teen is... well, the age of 16-21 is an odd period where one might be considered an adult by society (if only in some ways and for some counts, depending on the precise age and the society), is past puberty, but still is stuck in a more teenage mentality.
 
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Okay, update has wound up going really long, so I've got it saved in a google doc and have been working through it when I can. Things should go smoother now that finals are over, too.

But this post isn't about that.

That "I don't know what I'm doing" tag up top? That isn't there just for the memes, it's a genuine expression of my feelings as QM. Like, story-wise I'm fine; got notes on all the characters, some possible events later down the line, and a general sense of what's up in a way that isn't too open-ended or too restrictive, I would hope.

But regardless, I feel like I'm handling this quest really poorly on some level, and I've been trying to figure out why that is and how to fix it. Part of this is because of what was brought up in the "SV has an odd problem" thread, and part of it is because of the weirdly sexual tone I set early on with a particular option, when we were deciding on Alexandra's looks. You know the one. I brought this up in a discord chat, but I figured here might be a better place since... you know... this is the actual quest thread. One thing that was pointed out was that despite ostensibly being eighteen, Alexandra feels like more of a teenager than a young adult, and on rereading the threadmarks thus far, I'm getting that feeling as well. I'm not sure why that is, but it's definitely there, and definitely needs to be fixed.

So yeah, basically, I wanted to go ahead and open a discussion on some of the missteps this quest has had so far, particularly in terms of overall tone, pacing, and treatment of the characters, (though if anyone has suggestions on other aspects, feel free to throw those in as well) and how I might go about fixing them.
After seeing you in that thread I figured something would've come from it, and I can't say I'm particularly enthusiastic about it. I've seen some of their suggestions and thoughts about what they see as a problem with SV and the general user. I disagree with a lot of it. It frankly comes off a pretentious, as if they're looking down on the "ignorant plebs" for liking something. The idea of collecting all the m/m so people have a place to find all the great stories was a fine idea, no one can argue against that, but I saw that thread devolve pretty quickly and I am wary right now.

You bring up the "sexualization tone" of Alexandra's looks but can you point out in your story where this little joke is ever been brought up again? I don't and I truly do see it as just a joke, you take one look at the all the tags up there and you know if you take a very serious mindset then you'll more then likely start butting heads with the rest of the voters and the GM themselves participating. It's like trying to argue that when the male protag gets slapped in an anime for winding up in an awkward position beyond his control. You should sue the anime company for promoting assault, Instead accepting that it's slapstick comedy. Even then that happens all the time in anime, but this little moment of having a laugh was a one off so I don't think you should be worried.

Yes, there is a level of shipping in here but that's only because it was made known it was going to be a thing. I've been in a quest that's about over two years old, the main character was paired up with a party of companions skewed towards more females. It took a long time for the gm to reveal that they were keeping a secret tally on how we interacted with them as a way to see if the thread was interested in going further then friends. When it was revealed almost all of us were surprised by that, if you were subtle about that here I'd say something similar would have happen.

But well a little too late for that. :V

As for acting with maturity tied into a person's age? Yes it does factor into how a person will act but experience will take a front seat here every time. Alexandra is proof of this, she was in a near death experience but was saved. It inspired her to follow in her savior's footsteps and risk her life in a war. She is not a full grown adult but as shown with the memorial and the following battle, she clearly understands death is a very real thing here that can happen. She is still young and has room to grow but I believe that the thread itself is also trying to push for this, I know a few have expressed trying to be the team leader or the one responsible for the team at least. As shown by the votes to check up on several of our teammates when we were given the opportunity to. I do want her to grow up at a reasonable pace if this war will allow it.

I would also say that the tone of this quest is rather light despite the sprinklings of a few dark subjects and that may help towards the idea she's acting like a teenager. I don't think the danger has set in for us yet and in our posts we reflect that to a degree. I don't know where you'll take us but just remember it hasn't been that long nor has "alot" happened yet so there hasn't been time for that growth yet.

Now I just hope you don't pull a Madoka Magica on us.:o;)

But yeah, here were my thoughts. Beyond all this? Maybe more consistent updates?
 
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i'm eccoing what other have been saying: your doing good, we like it, pacing might be a problem though(though right now i'm fine with that).
 
I really don't have anything to work with in this quest regarding complaints.
Keep on kicking butt and being awesome Cold Gold!
 
Okay, update has wound up going really long, so I've got it saved in a google doc and have been working through it when I can. Things should go smoother now that finals are over, too.

But this post isn't about that.

That "I don't know what I'm doing" tag up top? That isn't there just for the memes, it's a genuine expression of my feelings as QM. Like, story-wise I'm fine; got notes on all the characters, some possible events later down the line, and a general sense of what's up in a way that isn't too open-ended or too restrictive, I would hope.

But regardless, I feel like I'm handling this quest really poorly on some level, and I've been trying to figure out why that is and how to fix it. Part of this is because of what was brought up in the "SV has an odd problem" thread, and part of it is because of the weirdly sexual tone I set early on with a particular option, when we were deciding on Alexandra's looks. You know the one. I brought this up in a discord chat, but I figured here might be a better place since... you know... this is the actual quest thread. One thing that was pointed out was that despite ostensibly being eighteen, Alexandra feels like more of a teenager than a young adult, and on rereading the threadmarks thus far, I'm getting that feeling as well. I'm not sure why that is, but it's definitely there, and definitely needs to be fixed.

So yeah, basically, I wanted to go ahead and open a discussion on some of the missteps this quest has had so far, particularly in terms of overall tone and treatment of the characters, (though if anyone has suggestions on other aspects, feel free to throw those in as well) and how I might go about fixing them.
The choices are... poorly placed. You say you're trying to let us choose what elements to look further into, but if this is establishing the baseline features of the setting, we'll need most of it sooner or later anyway. There should be a better way of conveying it, rather than these frequent but split-up exposition dumps that only touch on a few things at a time, and become very repetitive very fast.

This recent vote, for example, feels somewhat pointless: The meeting is meant to fill us in on the workings of the base, so there was no need to include the options for that in the inquiry with Chayka. At the same time, the official part of the meeting isn't likely to tell us about the more informal sorts of things; like what to expect from the other people, whatever Leslie was about to say before getting interrupted, and what problem Chayka has with Leslie; that could be left to the discussion with Chayka. With the choices split up between the two sources like that, there's really no point in having a break for choices at all, rather than simply having Chayka give the gossip and then Nasira give the official information, and then have a choice after that for whatever it is you have planned next.
 
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Alrighty, just wanted to let you all know this isn't dead. Shortly after my last post here I went on a 2+ week trip to visit family in another state. Fun but chaotic times were had, and while I tried to work on the next update since then (as well as revive a few other dormant projects) I haven't had much opportunity until getting back home a few days ago. It's not ready yet but it's coming soon, and I'll do my best to put everyone's feedback into effect going forward, plus a couple other things I noticed myself.
 
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