Memoirs of a Human Flashlight [Exalted/Worm]

Sadly, because the Mask was broken, nobody can Prove that the Sidereals were behind it, so they get out with Only the distrust of most of Heaven.

But yeah, even if Fate technically tracks every bit of dust and shit, it doesn't Keep tracking them if they become irrelevant, and the scale is small enough that the only stuff that's leaking out is Essence--and that exists in sufficient quantities (And constantly regenerated), that a small steady drain is going to have functionally zero impact on Fate--at worst, it'll be "Huh, that's kind of an odd spot, maybe I'll check it out on my next vacation a few decades from now".
 
It occurs to me that there is at least one Exaltation with potentially both reason and means to track down the pinhole. Taylor is a Solar. Therefore there exists a Lunar with a specific interest in her. (Sure, the bond doesn't start mindfucking the lunar until they lay eyes on her, but it can be used as a homing beacon by some Lunar charms before that, and there exists a faction of Lunars that actually wants the Solars back.)
 
Yeah, no, the Incarnae are much more than their positions. You can appoint a God of the Milky Way, but the Unconquered Sun is still carrying the God-spear of All-Searing Noon.
 
Zechstein said:
You misunderstood. Of course the Unconquered Sun will get to keep his planetcracker, but the sun of Earth bet isn't the sun of Creation and will thus get it's own god. Who will most likely be a tad disappointed with the job.
Fair enough, I'm reacting to the implication in the original statement that the God of Our Sun is equivalent to an Incarna, but chances are good that I'm misreading it.
 
The Sun is not the Unconquered Sun, there's a big difference.

One is a ball of eternally burning fusion. The other is the ultimate engine of war, forged by the creators of the universe to destroy All threats, including something on their own level.
 
Creticus said:
Fair enough, I'm reacting to the implication in the original statement that the God of Our Sun is equivalent to an Incarna, but chances are good that I'm misreading it.
In all fairness, the UCS actually has the primary domains of victory, perfection, excellence, and virtue. The Primordials just assigned him to be the sun for something to do when he wasn't destroying threats to Creation.
 
Creticus said:
Fair enough, I'm reacting to the implication in the original statement that the God of Our Sun is equivalent to an Incarna, but chances are good that I'm misreading it.
It was a reference to how Sol is both the god of the sun and a primordial-built ultimate weapon, while our sun doesn't have a doomsday weapon attacked but that wouldn't be obvious from creation.
 
Zechstein said:
Well the punch line was more or less that the gods who are trying to get a job on Earth Bet will hold the erroneous belief that holding positions equivalent to the Incarnae will get them similar powers, but the joke probably isn't that good when I need to explain it...
Edit: Ninja'd
I made a knee-jerk reaction based on a skimmed reading while watching a movie. You're fine.
 
pheonix89 said:
It was a reference to how Sol is both the god of the sun and a primordial-built ultimate weapon, while our sun doesn't have a doomsday weapon attacked but that wouldn't be obvious from creation.
Our sun is a 860,000 mile wide sphere that sustains itself by fusing vast quantities of hydrogen into helium at its core every second. Its magnetic field stretches out nearly 100 times the distance from it to Earth, and its gravity holds eight planets, a significant number of dwarf planets, and fuck alone knows how many other balls of rock or ice or other material in its thrall. It has lived for 4.6 billion years, and will likely sustain life for another 5-7 billion years before it finally sputters out.

I submit that if you are the God of this object, you can find a way to turn it into a doomsday weapon for anybody nearby, where "nearby" is a distance measured in light-hours.
 
There would be no Bronze faction assassins right away. Too risky. If they fail and Solar social charms convert them, you could get a nightmare scenario. A hostile Solar circle using Solar Bureaucracy Charms to screw with the Bronze faction. Solar Bureaucracy Charms are potent enough that a Solar can amass quite a few favors and protection for them. They can then literally force the bronze faction to terms unless they want to escalate to extremely unwise amounts of violence. As in amounts that would ruin them in Yu-Shan for thousands of years.
 
Carrnage said:
But would Our Sun be put under UCS or be assigned it's own god?
It's own god, most likely, although it's quite possible that the dominant star in a star system (especially in a single star star system) becomes a 'gateway' for the Unconquered Sun to project the power of the Daystar through.
 
Hazard said:
It's own god, most likely, although it's quite possible that the dominant star in a star system (especially in a single star star system) becomes a 'gateway' for the Unconquered Sun to project the power of the Daystar through.
Pretty much. I would say he gains a subordinate god, and as humans colonize other solar systems, he starts getting more.
 
Robotninja said:
Pretty much. I would say he gains a subordinate god, and as humans colonize other solar systems, he starts getting more.
Oh? The US's son that showed up that no one can refute or is willing to confirm?
 
Sorry to bring up an old discussion, but I found a quote from wildbow:
wildbow said:
Replying to a recurring complaint here:

@ Why tinkers haven't mass marketed:

Shit breaks.

A tinker named Gearboy is commissioned to produce a mechanical battlesuit for the army, ok. That's doable. But if the suit breaks down, or if it gets normal wear and tear, there's really only one person who understands it well enough to fix it (beyond surface damage). The tinker who made it. Kid Win mentions, when modifying the earbud with Armsmaster's lie detector, that anything he does will naturally be less elegant and the work will suffer for it. The same applies for anything in regular use with non-tinkers. The soldiers won't know how to fix up the suit. So it gets damaged: hole in the chest. Repair team checks there's no damage to internal components, patch up the hole with a metal plate welded in place like they might with a vehicle, only to find that the suit's overheating and it's walking funny. They call up the tinker, but he's elbow deep in another job. They resign themselves to having the suit deployed for no more than an hour at a time.

They start talking about how to take care of the thing. An argument erupts among squad members about whether to oil the joints or not. One group says they should take care of an expensive machine, the other side of the debate says that the last time they tampered with it stuff started to go wrong. They decide to oil it. More stuff goes wrong. The systems in the arms and legs that were oiled aren't as responsive. It feels clumsy now. They decide not to oil it any more just in case, and more stuff goes wrong. The thing's basically unusable now, and they've had it only a week, with only one major confrontation.
Gearboy gets called in to handle the fix, and he goes ballistic.

The patch-up job threw the system out of balance. The gyros are supposed to compensate, but the welding job's thrown off the center of balance! Leave it that way, and the gyros start to wear down as the suit walks over miles, the system's forced to rely on the tilt compensators, which are typically used short term for lifting/carrying objects, but overuse of those causes the thing to overheat.

If the tinker were in the driver's seat, it could be adjusted or vented, but the clueless morons who are piloting it don't have a clue. Not that he can call them morons to their faces. He does want to keep his job.
And hell, that was just the patch-up job. What the hell were they thinking, using a mineral oil? Has to be synthetic, with threads of gold for the parts closest to the vents, to maintain conductivity. No wonder the hands don't work.

The tinker knows he could write a massive user manual, explaining everything, but he can't cover every eventuality. Not every climate nor every possible scenario, or what might happen if someone is forced to improvise a solution.

So he grumbles, tells them to call the next time they want to do anything to the suit. And he secretly bemoans the fact that he sold his stuff for ignorants to use on any kind of consistent basis.

An analogy, if you will: put a desktop computer in front of someone from the Victorian age. You have two hours to teach them what they need to know. Can you really cover everything that they need to know for regular use? It's really very much the same. You just know they're going to ask for help at some point, no matter how much you try to cover in a half hour, hour-long or two-hour tutorial session. Now picture a scenario where you mass produced computers and there's a thousand Victorian-era people using the systems, and you're the only one who really understands the things, you're the only one who can fix stuff if they screw it up, the only one who can reinstall an OS or tell a locked up system from a nonresponsive keyboard.

It's very much the same for a tinker.

AKA: why more stuff isn't seen on the market.
 
Analyst Prime said:
Maybe someone in Creation tried to destroy an Exaltation so they made a pinprick hole somewhere outside Creation and showed the troublesome Solar trough. If stuff isn't drained trough too quickly it might not seem like a problem(IIRC many of the big players ignore worse threats) and if Taylor's antics can't be seen trough the hole then whoever did it might think they actually managed to destroy a shard, or at least invented a permanent way to imprison one, meaning they would try to do it again next time one causes trouble...
Only problem is that unless the Solar died soon after being shoved into the Wormverse, Taylor wouldn't have gotten the Shard. And anyone with the capacity to open up a hole to an entirely different, unknown reality, should bloody well know better.

No, I think it's more likely that a Exalted, deliberately or accidentally opened up the hole during an experiment. Of course, that brings a rather horrible implication:

The most likely time and place such an experiment would occur is Creation during the First Age.
 
Gore17 said:
Only problem is that unless the Solar died soon after being shoved into the Wormverse, Taylor wouldn't have gotten the Shard. And anyone with the capacity to open up a hole to an entirely different, unknown reality, should bloody well know better.

No, I think it's more likely that a Exalted, deliberately or accidentally opened up the hole during an experiment. Of course, that brings a rather horrible implication:

The most likely time and place such an experiment would occur is Creation during the First Age.
There's no reason time has to remain steady between the two universes.
 
it doesn't even have to be a hole in Creation. It could easily be a hole inside a Sanctum or the Wyld.
 
Well, the Well of Udr is the canonical way to access alternative realities. If the Dowager threw a solar in then that would explain how one ended up here.
 
On a more relevant note, there are probably going to be consequences to having Glory Girl's weakness posted on YouTube. It's not going to take Tattletale to figure it out this time.
 
I did not specify precisely where the other side of the pinhole is. It is somewhere on the Exalted side of things though.

Glory Girl's weakness is less obvious than one might think; Tattletale figured it out from seeing her footage anyways. The force field is invisible and the video isn't high detail enough to show the moment the forcefield faded with the strikes. None of the actual strikes seemed to affect her overmuch.

Finally, nothing about the forcefield intrinsically would prevent the hyperextension or extra turning of limbs, one would think.
 
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