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Cjdavis103 said:
We explaned it I thought we did the list already:rage::rage::rage:
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I cannot see what you guys assume or think unless you write it down for me. Skew's list vote barely edged into being a 'winning' vote I can't interpret a barely winning vote as something universally agreed on because it isn't universally agreed on.

I mean, I know now, obviously and I will be bearing it in mind in the future, but I'm just human I can only write based on what you guys write in this thread. More conversation is good for precisely this reason so I can figure out what you guys are aiming for and thinking.

But yeah, lesson learned for me I guess.

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[x] Loot!
No. of votes: 2
butchock
devo342

[x]Loot responsiblely
-[X]have morila summon anouther scamp to watch the corridor that's shadowed and morila to watch the stairs we came in. Diana help fast loot
-[X] okay I know that it would happen but seriously why does this thing have gold coins?
No. of votes: 1
Cjdavis103

[x] Loot responsibly
-[X] Have Morlia summon another scamp to watch the corridor that's shadowed and Morlia to watch the stairs we came in; Diana can help Fast loot.
-[X] Okay I knew that it would happen but seriously: Why does this thing have gold coins?
No. of votes: 3
Xyzarach
redzonejoe
Yonatan

[X] Loot! Irresponsibly.
No. of votes: 1
Dark as Silver

[x] Loot responsibly
-[X] Have Morlia summon another scamp to watch the corridor that's shadowed and Morlia to watch the stairs we came in; Diana can help Fast loot.
-[X] As we loot, induct Diana into the mysteries of safely and efficiently looting Ayleid ruins:
--[X] There are six rules of looting Ayleid ruins. Rule one: Unless pressed for time, always give an area a once-over before you start looting. Rule Two: Watch the floors. Rule three: Watch the cielings. Rule four: Watch the walls. Rule five: If it is a grille, a slit, a hole or a series of holes, it is a trap, and will kill you. Rule six: Glowy crystals are valuable, and come in two kinds: Welkynds, which recharge your mana, and Varlas, which recharge all enchanted items on you, and command a hefty price. The former are sometimes out of reach, but can be retrieved by hitting them with missiles or telekinesis, while latter are caged, but can always be opened by a switch nearby.
-[X] If and when a lull in the conversation occurs, ask: Okay I knew that it would happen, but seriously: Why did that wolf thing have gold coins?
No. of votes: 2
Skewfiend
Ψυχή

[x] Loot responsibly
-[X] Have Morlia summon another scamp to watch the corridor that's shadowed and Morlia to watch the stairs we came in; Diana can help Fast loot.
-[X] As we loot, induct Diana into the mysteries of safely and efficiently looting Ayleid ruins:
--[X] There are six rules of looting Ayleid ruins. Rule one: Unless pressed for time, always give an area a once-over before you start looting. Rule Two: Watch the floors. Rule three: Watch the ceilings. Rule four: Watch the walls. Rule five: If it is a grille, a slit, a hole or a series of holes, it is a trap, and will kill you. Rule six: Glowy crystals are valuable, and come in two kinds: Welkynds, which recharge your mana, and Varlas, which recharge all enchanted items on you, and command a hefty price. The former are sometimes out of reach, but can be retrieved by hitting them with missiles or telekinesis, while latter are caged, but can always be opened by a switch nearby.
-[X] If and when a lull in the conversation occurs, ask: Okay I knew that it would happen, but seriously: Why did that wolf thing have gold coins?
-[X] Thoughtfully add At least this one didn't have a sword on it.
No. of votes: 1
WanderingEye[/COLOR]
 
chocolote12 said:
Except that's not the mindset of an orderly being, that's the mindset of a purely chaotic being pretending to be orderly. It's not Anti-Chaos, it' Anti-Intelligence. Having only one universal constant is pretty much admitting that you fail at keeping order, and so are just going to remove every other instance of order so that you can claim to be orderly. It's like Chaos wanting to destroy the universe, or a God of Soups deciding that warm water mixed with Salt is the One True soup and deciding to destroy all other soups.

In short, it's exactly the short of mindset that Sheogorath would have if he was pretending to be Jyggalag. Which makes sense, because I doubt that the other Daedric lords would give him even a second at his true power if they knew he'd be sane enough to fix himself permanently with it.
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I don't understand what you're saying here. Jyggalag's whole thing is wiping out everyone that isn't part of his group-think hive-mind, and reducing all sources of randomness to rubble.

he brings about order by killing everything and leaving the world peacefully, monotonously, dead.

its why the other daedra worked together to turn him into the god of chaos and randomness, he's less of a threat now that he's not wiping out everything that doesn't meet his standards.
 
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Kyrina said:
I cannot see what you guys assume or think unless you write it down for me. Skew's list vote barely edged into being a 'winning' vote I can't interpret a barely winning vote as something universally agreed on because it isn't universally agreed on.
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Thats unfair. There were no votes that disagreed with Skews vote, just most people didn't vote to tell it to Diana and Morlia.
 
chocolote12 said:
[X] Request healing.
-[X] Leave ruin

Except that's not the mindset of an orderly being, that's the mindset of a purely chaotic being pretending to be orderly. It's not Anti-Chaos, it's Anti-Intelligence. Having only one universal constant is pretty much admitting that you fail at keeping order, and so are just going to remove every other instance of order so that you can claim to be orderly. It's like Chaos wanting to destroy the universe (i.e make infinite nothingness a constant, which would eliminate all chaos in the universe, technically), or a God of Soups deciding that warm water mixed with Salt is the One True soup and deciding to destroy all other soups.

In short, it's exactly the short of mindset that Sheogorath would have if he was pretending to be Jyggalag... which makes sense, because I doubt that the other Daedric lords would give him even a second at his true power if they knew he'd be sane enough to fix himself permanently with it.
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one you color is a big red flag Nope nope nope

second read the front page

Verminlord1 said:
List of Attacks ​
(Feel free to write in your own plans and descriptions, this isn't a video game so you can do what you want.)

Basic sword swing: 5 Stamina (Your bread and butter)
Power attack: 10 Stamina and -10 to hit. Does 2.5 times damage. (You stab them, but harder)
Standing Power attack: 10 Stamina, -10 to hit, +10 for enemy to hit. Does 3 times damage. (You shall not move)

Flurry of blows: (Still in development)

Blocking: Reduces damage in exchange for stamina. Depends on their strength. Trying to block the attacks of an Ogre will drain you faster then blocking a High Elf bandit.

Spells​

Heal Minor Wounds: 14 Magicka. Heal small amount of health.
Spark: 22 Magicka, Lightning damage on target.



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Omakes
Unclad Daedra​
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PEOPLE WE HAVE A HEALING SPELL
 
Adding to my previous post

[X] See class that's what happens when you don't pay attention. Luckily I'm a Daedra with a healing spell F&^% you Injuries I have magic!
 
Dark as Silver said:
Thats unfair. There were no votes that disagreed with Skews vote, just most people didn't vote to tell it to Diana and Morlia.
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I can't assume that a lack of voting against something is the same as agreeing with it. Mostly because it's not. You guys rarely actually vote against our resident order daedra, just propose alternate courses of action, should I assume you're all agreeing with him? No, of course not, that would be stupid.

Do you get why I interpreted things as I did based on the information I had and my policy that All Votes Are equal even the order daedra's? Anyway, this has been cleared up now and I'm not gonna continue with this further. I've stated my reasons for what happened and I stand by them.

Hmmm, hey @Verminlord1 can we stick Skew's list up on the character sheet or something to show it's in effect in general now? Since that's what the people want.
 
[X] Heal ourselves x5
-[X] "Do either of you ladies have a heal other spell? That would be appreciated.'

[X] Remind yourself of the rules. Examine EVERYTHING, take note of potential traps, and continue our mission to get the stone.

[X] Absolutely do not let one minor slip scare us away from the loot! We are Fast Enough, the Sanest daedra to have ever been summoned! We can take on a stupid ruin, we just need to be smart about it
 
@Kyrina , I don't disagree with your way of thinking. I think we should have included that we were keeping an eye out for traps in the vote, and we're rightly facing the consequence of not doing so.

People just have a hard time admitting to their own mistakes. It's easier to blame you :rolleyes:
 
The rules of exploration have been posted! Look to the first posts.

(also, if it makes people feel better, you did have a dodge chance for the trap, you just failed)
 
Xyzarach said:
I don't understand what you're saying here. Jyggalag's whole thing is wiping out everyone that isn't part of his group-think hive-mind, and reducing all sources of randomness to rubble.

he brings about order by killing everything and leaving the world peacefully, monotonously, dead.

its why the other daedra worked together to turn him into the god of chaos and randomness, he's less of a threat now that he's not wiping out everything that doesn't meet his standards.
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chocolote12 said:
In short, it's exactly the short of mindset that Sheogorath would have if he was pretending to be Jyggalag... which makes sense, because I doubt that the other Daedric lords would give him even a second at his true power if they knew he'd be sane enough to fix himself permanently with it.
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According to Sheogorath; A guy who's best interests lie in making this guy sound as evil as possible to play on the H.o.K.'s heroism complex. Why would he not flanderize him into an omnicidal maniac who hates all individual actions? Jyggalag already understood every action ever taken so well that he was able to write it down (And then he did, because why not let everybody know; it's not like he didn't account for it already).

I'd bet my nonexistent hat that He's perfectly fine with mortals; it's when things stop being involved with the wonderfully orderly things known as atoms that he starts sending out soldiers.
 
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Dark as Silver said:
What mistake? We didn't make a mistake.
Everything is Kyrina's fault. Definitely.
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I know you're kidding, but to address this issue better for the people who are in denial:

Searching for traps is not a passive action. We will not spot every trap in the world just because we mentioned it once.

It is an active action, and we the voters have to acknowledge that traps exist, there might be some here, and then we have to commit to taking the time to look for them.

[] Examine the room for traps

There, done. Copy paste that into every vote.

After a few votes of that, we might suggest to kyrina that we do this for every room in this dungeon automatically, and she may or may not agree.

But this time it was definitely not automatic, and we fucked up.
 
Kyrina said:
Nah, crit fail doesn't affect damage dealt to you. You'd just be stuck on the ceiling spikes :D
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which would cause the trap to trigger from weight being applied to it, resulting in quest end.

wait no... is this one of the traps where the ceiling and the floor move, or just the floor with the ceiling set with spikes?
 
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Well, that was a balls-up.

Dark as Silver said:
This is basically a semi-riot quest, as long as someone votes it and other votes don't conflict, we'll end up doing it.
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Not quite how it works. Even non-conflicting votes that are in the minority tend to get edged out.

[X] "That, I think, will serve as an object lesson on why you need to be careful."
-[X] Get off the confounded platform, and spam healing on ourself.
--[X] While they wait, suggest that it might be gainful if the others check the rest of the room for traps.
---[X] When we are recovered, use a sword blow to trigger the platform without standing on it, and retrieve the corpse.
----[X] Loot it, then hurl its head at the welkynd stone.
 
[X] "That, I think, will serve as an object lesson on why you need to be careful."
-[X] Get off the confounded platform, and spam healing on ourself.
--[X] While they wait, suggest that it might be gainful if the others check the rest of the room for traps.
---[X] When we are recovered, use a sword blow to trigger the platform without standing on it, and retrieve the corpse.
----[X] Loot it, then hurl its head at the welkynd stone.
 
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