Letting Go (Worm/Exalted)
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NemiTheNen
Perpetual Phone Poster
Color tags got messed up some
HymnOfRagnarok
Let's Rock
Well damn, I wish the first part of the omake had at least made it in. Maybe Taylor could have reduced her Limit with Ebon Dragon's Act of Villainry....Exquisite Bride Obsession I think?
Ironic, considering who's watching Lisa.
The Coil mole shootout was definitely on the contrived side, but bringing Tattletale in still kinda makes sense, despite operational security concerns.
Ironic, considering who's watching Lisa.
The Coil mole shootout was definitely on the contrived side, but bringing Tattletale in still kinda makes sense, despite operational security concerns.
DeviantD
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Thanks. Not sure why that happened.
I may have a similar damsel in distress scene later, but it wasn't really sitting right with me to have her so passive about putting her life in Taylor's hands. (at this point)
SolipsistSerpent
Endlessly Devouring
Well, I guess she's not keeping that meeting secret.
The Skittertale shipper in me prefers the omake ending but overall I agree that the omake version is moving things a bit too fast. Maybe if Lisa's had burn through more of her power and her migraine was debilitating enough that her leaning on Taylor was necessary rather then affected it would work since then Lisa would have no choice but to trust Taylor. But I also don't see Lisa allowing herself to fall into such a disabling state around someone she's not at least 90% certain about.
Radek
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And so Brockton Bay descends into open war. Kaiser must respond, and respond hard and fast; to not do so makes him look weak before enemies and allies alike. His position isn´t so strong he could afford that right now.
Might the next Charm Taylor learns render her immune or nearly so to Thinkers of various sort? As just shown, they can learn quite a bit from very little and handing unnecessary information to potential enemies is hardly smart.
Might the next Charm Taylor learns render her immune or nearly so to Thinkers of various sort? As just shown, they can learn quite a bit from very little and handing unnecessary information to potential enemies is hardly smart.
I don't think anyone has put together a character sheet for Taylor so knowing what Charms she already has is kinda hard. Especially since her patron isn't the Ebon Dragon but He Who Laughs at Misfortune who almost certainly has different charms.
I can't think of any Adorjan charms that would help defend against Thinkers, well besides the obvious answer of killing them, and while the Ebon Dragon has Loom-Snarling Deception which might help by giving out false information we don't know if He Who Laughs at Misfortune has a similar charm.
RyubosJ
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Wait I thought she was with the city fellow, I might need a rereading
Apparently I am the one who needs to re-read the story. I just checked and yeah Malfeas is Taylor's patron:
HWLM instead seems to be the one who set Taylor's Urge:
OverReactionGuy
Verified Sanity
Remember to keep your fear Taylor! Even of you let go of anything else, fear will at least keep you alive!
No one but the PRT knows that Medhal was a business front for the e88 so he didn't really lose face. That and his position is rather strong, nothing happened yet to really question it from what I understand. That didn't happen until Coil outed every e88 member and blamed the undersiders for it. So yeah, they will respond but not in an all out war. Probably would call the villains that are not the ABB into a sorta truce situation as the ABB is going to far or something.
Basically, I think your mistaking the E88's and Kaiser's position here with a different fanfic that has Kaiser in a desperate situation. ^.^'
Hell, they can use the bombing of an innocent medical business as a rally for more support so the ABB pretty much did Kaiser a solid here.
No one but the PRT knows that Medhal was a business front for the e88 so he didn't really lose face. That and his position is rather strong, nothing happened yet to really question it from what I understand. That didn't happen until Coil outed every e88 member and blamed the undersiders for it. So yeah, they will respond but not in an all out war. Probably would call the villains that are not the ABB into a sorta truce situation as the ABB is going to far or something.
Basically, I think your mistaking the E88's and Kaiser's position here with a different fanfic that has Kaiser in a desperate situation. ^.^'
Hell, they can use the bombing of an innocent medical business as a rally for more support so the ABB pretty much did Kaiser a solid here.
azoicennead
Overly-Affectionate Zombie Squad
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What kind of Thinker? Tattletale would be blocked by simple social skills or a lying charm. Precogs may already be blocked, but definitely will be if she learns Infernal Monster style. Sensory powers would be countered by stealth charms.
The Caste, Patron, and Urge Yozi of an Infernal are unrelated, so I will lie and say that isn't normal.
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OverReactionGuy
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The fact that Lisa said she would die if she goes to the PRT isn't enough?
FullNothingness
Mostly DHMO.
I imagine the ABB might also know given that they did bomb the place. And before declaring Kaiser happy with a propaganda victory it might be necessary to first confirm he wasn't vaporized just now. Randomly blowing up a E88 building doesn't do that much for the ABB after all... But decapitating the E88 by surprise does.
There might even be a IMO fairly plausible way this could happen. Coil in canon knows the identity of E88 parahumans. And right now he is pretty desperate. His power is being countered, Tattletale is betraying him and the PRT/Protectorate is probably on the warpath for launching assassination attempts on people in their custody. He needs a distraction and telling Lung/Bakuda that Max Anders is Kaiser would get him that distraction. He might even try to shift blame from this revelation onto Tattletale in an effort to get her killed.
Tisaku
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No, especially not that the reason Lisa claims to believe that is that Coil has moles who could kill her in the PRT cells. There are any number of ways to deal with that that aren't stupid(multiple randomly selected guards, keeping her with someone they know is not a mole, etc...), letting Lisa go in her condition on the other hand is stupid regardless of if Lisa is telling the Truth or not:
If Lisa is telling the Truth she's not in any condition to be wandering the streets, much less avoiding any goons Coil might have who might have spotted the meeting and/or get enough information for Coil to realize he should deal with Lisa before she tells the PRT anything more.
If Lisa is not telling the truth Taylor just let a supervillain Thinker who's manipulating the PRT leave to continue manipulating people.
Dark Abstraction
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Taylor already knows charms from Infernal Monster Style, including the one that lolnopes precog shenanigans.
I got the impression that Taylors presence Outside Fate screws with precog passively, but when she uses the Infernal Monster Style she is doing so actively.
The difference between not being seen due to being invisible, and not being seen because you just jammed a fork in the eyeball of the precog.
azoicennead
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Ah, right. I forgot that she knows Infernal Monster Form, and also that it's the charm with the "fuck precog" rider.
edit: I will note that IFF is of limited use outside of combat, so not quite the kind of effect Radek meant.
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The Charm she already uses to drop Intimacies would be sufficient to screw with Thinkers who were following one train of thought relying on a given Intimacy she has when it...pops.
The Ebon Dragon's Charms which allow him to create false identities would make Thinkers have difficulties, but given that Thinkers don't work through Fate it would be something that the right kind of Thinker power might see straight through, while the wrong kind would be uttlerly fooled. The ED Charms in question both modify how the Exalt really thinks and feels and how they act, as well as their Fate identifications, but the Exalt's true being and self remain in the background, ready to betray their false selves by dropping them at a moment's notice.
It's never quite addressed this way, but a self-aware false ID could easily be conscious of the fact that they are a puppet who, when they're no longer needed, will be destroyed, and that this alien THING that is their real self has exactly the OPPOSITE interests and intent to their own. But they can only act on their desires and motivations while the alien THING permits them to, having no free will of their own and, at most, being able to have a moment of existential horror before ceasing to be if they so much as try to act against the THING's interests.
Finally, unless she activates the Form-type Charm for Infernal Monster Style, it doesn't do much to her Fate-status. However, if she activates the Form-type Charm, she so overwhelms the local Tapestry that any form of scrying, divination, or other Thinker-type remote/pre-/post-cognition aimed at anything she was remotely involved in while using it will get nothing except for this one message: "The Monster Is Here."
Given the nature of the Exalted, even the Simurgh would only get that message examining any place-time that Dervish chose to use the Infernal Monster Form. Not just trying to scry Taylor, but trying to scry anything even peripherally affected by Taylor's presence. Dinah Alcott gives some good examples: she can't predict Endbringers, but she can tell the odds that a city will be demolished by XYZ date, even if the cause of that is to be an Endbringer. Similarly, the Simurgh or another Thinker could tell the results that might come from Taylor using the Form in an area, but not how it happened, what Taylor did, or even who else was involved save by consequences to be measured afterwards. (Easy to guess that if, say, Lung is a corpse afterwards, Taylor might have had a hand in killing him while using that Charm, for example.)
The Ebon Dragon's Charms which allow him to create false identities would make Thinkers have difficulties, but given that Thinkers don't work through Fate it would be something that the right kind of Thinker power might see straight through, while the wrong kind would be uttlerly fooled. The ED Charms in question both modify how the Exalt really thinks and feels and how they act, as well as their Fate identifications, but the Exalt's true being and self remain in the background, ready to betray their false selves by dropping them at a moment's notice.
It's never quite addressed this way, but a self-aware false ID could easily be conscious of the fact that they are a puppet who, when they're no longer needed, will be destroyed, and that this alien THING that is their real self has exactly the OPPOSITE interests and intent to their own. But they can only act on their desires and motivations while the alien THING permits them to, having no free will of their own and, at most, being able to have a moment of existential horror before ceasing to be if they so much as try to act against the THING's interests.
Finally, unless she activates the Form-type Charm for Infernal Monster Style, it doesn't do much to her Fate-status. However, if she activates the Form-type Charm, she so overwhelms the local Tapestry that any form of scrying, divination, or other Thinker-type remote/pre-/post-cognition aimed at anything she was remotely involved in while using it will get nothing except for this one message: "The Monster Is Here."
Given the nature of the Exalted, even the Simurgh would only get that message examining any place-time that Dervish chose to use the Infernal Monster Form. Not just trying to scry Taylor, but trying to scry anything even peripherally affected by Taylor's presence. Dinah Alcott gives some good examples: she can't predict Endbringers, but she can tell the odds that a city will be demolished by XYZ date, even if the cause of that is to be an Endbringer. Similarly, the Simurgh or another Thinker could tell the results that might come from Taylor using the Form in an area, but not how it happened, what Taylor did, or even who else was involved save by consequences to be measured afterwards. (Easy to guess that if, say, Lung is a corpse afterwards, Taylor might have had a hand in killing him while using that Charm, for example.)
DeviantD
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Eh, I might have another look at it.
I thought I had implied, but I guess if people really think it needs it I could always more explicitly point out that:
- There is an emergency situation going on that has a higher priority
- That the usb stick provided 'should' be sufficient information for the Coil situation
- That this way she isn't having to drag an unwilling parahuman (who knows an awkward secret) from a crowd of students and thus drawing more attention
- That the thinker might have a better idea of the odds of her survival alone
- That a cooperative thinker is more valuable than an indentured thinker
- That for all of her Exalted shenanigans, she's only been in the Wards for a couple weeks in a non active role. Thus doesn't have any actual experience dealing with informants beyond what is on TV.
Even with her "I know more than you" Schtick, she's likely to know better. However, wouldn't it be interesting to see what she makes of windows to Malfeas?
I tend to use British/Australian english for most things, so the cosy is staying as is, but for the other two? Thank you.
Technically, I couldn't find any rule against it (you have your Caste, then pick a different favoured Yozi for your other discounted charms). The Urge, I couldn't find anything specifically saying it had to be one of those two, and so took advantage of that for HWLM's purposes.
I doubt however, that it is typical to have three separate ones. (In fact, my original idea was to have an almost purely Adorjan Taylor, with all the problematic charms, running around as something other characters had to interact with.)
*shrugs* I figured that informing them of vital Intel was more important. It would have had to come out eventually to explain where she got all the info.