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LordYam said:
At the same time Leila is being a little dishonest.
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It would help if you do point out where she is being dishonest.

Maybe show the scene where the gang members are being 'obviously evil' other that just hanging around the club as... I dunno bouncers.

Because if they had showed Yang looking around and having the gang members look at her suspiciously, her seeing one of them threaten a man with his axe, or even Junior acting more aggressive then you would have had a point.

But of course, according to you there are obvious scenes of them being a bad evil gang. And here's the thing.

Show it.

Show us where the gang is being obviously evil in an obviously shady evil way.

Because even the whole 'Junior' thing could be seen less as 'Oh he's a gang member' and more as 'Oh she knows his name'. Not to mention the usual trope of bar owners or bar tenders knowing everything about everyone could be the one used rather than information broker.

Yeah, I can play with tropes to RWBY.
 
pedanterrific said:
But then the scene ends with everyone on Junior's side unconscious (or possibly dead) and Junior himself laid out in the parking lot between Ruby and Yang.

If he does know something, what's stopping her from getting it out of him right then? Also, if he is a criminal who started the fight, why doesn't she take him to the police?
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Just show Junior unconscious on the ground. You can't really question someone who is unconscious and the presence of Ruby gives a reason for why Yang didn't stick around waiting for Junior to wake up so she can interrogate him.

As for dragging him off to prison? That's something you can leave hanging in the trailer. You'd pay off that lingering question when Yang visits Junior's club in the actual series. Have her casually threaten that she didn't dump him on the cops for a reason and that if he doesn't start answering her questions she might change her mind about that.

You could even build up Turian's reputation by ending the conversation with Yang asking about her again only for Junior to tell Yang that even after the events of the Yellow Trailer she doesn't scare him anywhere near as much as Turian. This in turn would pay off when Turian rescues Yang from Neo since it would have already been established that Turian is scary as hell so Neo being scared off by her builds upon that rather then coming out of nowhere.
 
Hey, quick question.

Is Superman a fascist?

Hold on, one more question.

Is Man of Steel/BvS Superman a fascist?


Because all this Yang stuff is somehow reminding me about all of those conversations. I have no idea why!
 
Valette.Serafina said:
Please explain that reason.
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I would presume that she would want to get her little sister away from there, both because it's an unsavory place and to keep her from getting involved. Plus, she probably knows that letting Ruby see her big sister get into brawls isn't exactly setting a good example for her.

It's... self-obvious enough that I'm not entirely sure that the question wasn't sarcasm, frankly.


Barnaby said:
Is Man of Steel/BvS Superman a fascist?
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I dunno. He certainly seems to be kind of a dick, but not all dickery is fascism. (All fascism is dickery, however.) Fascists usually fetishize and glorify the military, whereas at the end of Man of Steel Supes is giving them a lot of shit and stole all the credit for saving Metropolis, even though it was actually the military that saved the city and he showed up late and only saved Lois Lane.

Superman is supposed to be a paragon among superheroes: morally upstanding in all things, kind and friendly to a fault. Whereas other heroes like Batman are more morally ambiguous. Intimidating someone for information would seem normal for Batman, but would be at least unusual if not uncharacteristic for Superman. They have different approaches to heroism and you can't just give one the tone and attitude of the other.
 
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I would presume that she would want to get her little sister away from there, both because it's an unsavory place and to keep her from getting involved. Plus, she probably knows that letting Ruby see her big sister get into brawls isn't exactly setting a good example for her.

It's... self-obvious enough that I'm not entirely sure that the question wasn't sarcasm, frankly.
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All of the unsavoury elements are unconscious or dead. Ruby wound up in the area on her own, so it can be reasoned that it's not that out of the way. The brawl is over, so she won't be more of a bad influence than she's already been, and there's no sign that Yang's ever cared about the example she sets.

What's stopping Yang from waiting for the man she nearly gelded to wake up?
 
Superheroes in general promote a Great Man view of the world, wherein there are certain individuals gifted with the right combination of talent and opportunity to shape the world as a whole, and the rest of the world is merely a backdrop for their actions.

As far as 'Fascist' goes, I think Superheroes are too individualist for that to really work with.
 
Valette.Serafina said:
All of the unsavoury elements are unconscious or dead. Ruby wound up in the area on her own, so it can be reasoned that it's not that out of the way. The brawl is over, so she won't be more of a bad influence than she's already been, and there's no sign that Yang's ever cared about the example she sets.

What's stopping Yang from waiting for the man she nearly gelded to wake up?
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Yang still feels guilty about almost getting Ruby killed by taking her along when she went to look for her mother when they were children. It's reasonable that she wouldn't want to get Ruby involved in that search any further. Yang's cavalier about a lot of things, but not when it comes to her sister.

There's no telling how long Junior would be knocked out. The rest of his goons might wake up as well, reinforcements might be called in, and once the fight has spilled out into the street it's become public, so someone could be calling the cops. There's a point where you just have to call the op a failure and go home.
 
The Narrator said:
Yang still feels guilty about almost getting Ruby killed by taking her along when she went to look for her mother when they were children. It's reasonable that she wouldn't want to get Ruby involved in that search any further. Yang's cavalier about a lot of things, but not when it comes to her sister.

There's no telling how long Junior would be knocked out. The rest of his goons might wake up as well, reinforcements might be called in, and once the fight has spilled out into the street it's become public, so someone could be calling the cops. There's a point where you just have to call the op a failure and go home.
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Another thing to consider is Yang's legal status. Is she a Huntress-in-training? If so, can she arrest people? Question criminals? Threaten people? Do serious damage to a club? Or will those sorts of things see her getting arrested? (And if she gets arrested what are the odds she will be allowed to continue as a Huntress-in-training?)
 
Nicholai said:
Another thing to consider is Yang's legal status. Is she a Huntress-in-training? If so, can she arrest people? Question criminals? Threaten people? Do serious damage to a club? Or will those sorts of things see her getting arrested? (And if she gets arrested what are the odds she will be allowed to continue as a Huntress-in-training?)
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This is before she's even enrolled in Beacon, and I'm assuming that if Hunters have any legal authority they don't get it until they've graduated. She's here on an entirely personal quest. I'm guessing that she's go no legal authority to do anything she's doing that night, so at the very least she'd be in trouble.

Also, underage drinking. That'll probably cost her her motorcycle license if it's anything like the U.S.
 
The Narrator said:
Yang still feels guilty about almost getting Ruby killed by taking her along when she went to look for her mother when they were children. It's reasonable that she wouldn't want to get Ruby involved in that search any further. Yang's cavalier about a lot of things, but not when it comes to her sister.
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Assuming she's capable of guilt. An alternate reading would be that she wishes to avoid getting into trouble again.
There's no telling how long Junior would be knocked out. The rest of his goons might wake up as well, reinforcements might be called in, and once the fight has spilled out into the street it's become public, so someone could be calling the cops. There's a point where you just have to call the op a failure and go home.
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This returns to the conclusion that Yang's unprovoked attack was entirely illegal, in addition to amoral and counter-productive.
 
Valette.Serafina said:
Assuming she's capable of guilt. An alternate reading would be that she wishes to avoid getting into trouble again.
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Oh, for fuck's sake.... :rolleyes:

If you were paying attention, you would have noticed that the topic of discussion was how the trailer could have done a better job of depicting Yang as the sort of character that she's supposed to be.


Valette.Serafina said:
This returns to the conclusion that Yang's unprovoked attack was entirely illegal, in addition to amoral and counter-productive.
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I don't think that the legality of her shaking down Junior for information was ever up for debate. Vigilante behavior is by definition against the law.
 
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