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Let's Play Every Final Fantasy Game In Order Of Release [Now Playing: Final Fantasy IX]

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RiverDelta said:
Are you thinking of the Delta Episode from Pokemon ORAS?
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Not quite, you fight on Rayquaza in space there, the fight with it's just in the sky (don't think I need to spoil for a completely different series)

Speaking of Pokémon, I guess competitive Final Fantasy is a thing. Obviously there's Dissidia and PVP fights in 11 and 14, and someone out there's probably tried to make an IRL Triple Triad tournament
 
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Triple Triad is in FFXIV and you can do it against players. I think it actually even has periodic PvP tournaments of it? Haven't touched that system.

e: oh right there's also just the actual PvP modes in FFXIV
 
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Omicron said:
What gets me is that the serpent isn't even, like, beheaded. Or cut in half. It's impaled on a dead tree. This isn't something that happens naturally in the course of delivering blows and ripostes. It would require active effort, the ability to grapple and manhandle a beast of that size, and probably to jump several meters in the air, so you can drive its head down onto the tree-tip. This is actively superhuman, not 'action movie' superhuman.
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So, I was thinking about this in conjunction with the whole "you can't actually kill the Zolom" thing, and it brings to mind a few possible scenarios. One is that Sephiroth fought the Zolom a couple times, or multiple times, and then finally hit on the tree-spike as a means of putting it down permanently, which makes sense, right? But then what if he just fought it once and did the tree thing without knowing about the regeneration? Just as a sick-nasty finisher? That'd be pretty fucked. Anyway, that's my headcanon now.
 
Etranger said:
So, I was thinking about this in conjunction with the whole "you can't actually kill the Zolom" thing, and it brings to mind a few possible scenarios. One is that Sephiroth fought the Zolom a couple times, or multiple times, and then finally hit on the tree-spike as a means of putting it down permanently, which makes sense, right? But then what if he just fought it once and did the tree thing without knowing about the regeneration? Just as a sick-nasty finisher? That'd be pretty fucked. Anyway, that's my headcanon now.
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I'd just assumed there were more than one Zolom but they are pretty competitive over territory so there's only one running around the Marshes at any given time, but you know what, this is better.
 
So one thing with Yuffie is her chance of appearing in encounters increases as you progress through the World Map, starting at 1/8 in this location, and maxing out at 255/256 quite a bit later. There's actually an in-game explanation for this I'll point out when we get there if I remember.

As a character, her overall stats are generally slightly below average but makes up for it by being ranged and having some great weapons.
 
McFluffles said:
As for the mechanics, my assumption is that the reason you don't learn Beta despite "living" through the fight is that the method you took results in skipping the battle results screen and going straight back to the edge of the swamp. If say, Tifa survived the Beta and you then fled the battle, you might actually learn the spell.
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To learn E. Skills, you have to in fact win the fight. Fleeing negates it, and the Zolom specifically booting you out of battle counts as a flee, which is why you don't get it. There are a couple of other enemies with similar abilities, some which mark the character as fled and some which mark them as dead -- the distinction being whether or not you get a game over if the remaining people in the battle get killed.

EDIT: You are however able to use it in that fight immediately.
 
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In the New Threat mod, which I used in my last playthrough, recruiting Yuffie goes a bit differently. She isn't an optional character this time, but instead she sneaks into their room in Kalm after the flashback in done and steals the team's Materia. The gang chases her out of town and beats her up, with the two party members not in the party joining in as uncontrollable assist characters. After that you automatically go through the correct dialogue options and Yuffie joins the party.

New Threat also does a thing where the party members will hang out in certain towns while you are in them, and sometimes even change positions and dialogue depending on story progression. At the chocobo farm, for instance, Red XIII will be running around the hill behind the house, Aerith will be sitting on top of it and taking in the view, Tifa will be napping at the 'inn', Barret will be in the stables to shake his head over how expensive the Chocobo Lure is, and Yuffie will be by the chocobo pen trying to get them to dance.
 
SolipsistSerpent said:
I came back and got Beta later and it was really good, so I can't imagine how overpowered it is at Omicron's level.
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As someone else mentioned, it's got a level of power between Fire 2 and Fire 3 with no multitarget split.

So, basically? Better Gau rages (since he's the closest comparison I can think of, often getting access to higher level spells and abilities before they're normally available if you know which rages to use) but more reliable since no Veldt/random move usage, and also can be transfered between characters. Soooo, pretty broken for this point in the game.
 
If you want to know exactly how good any given spell, here's a chart (taken from this guide) comparing all different spells/summons (quite spoiler free, unless knowing what the enemy skills' name is a problem)

Omicron said:
and she's a ranged fighter like Barret, our second.
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Dunno if you've noticed, or I'm just talking to the thread, but : not all of Barret's weapons are ranged - and IIRC, his Kalm weapon is not.
Talk about taking iconic weapons out for statistically better ones.
Omicron said:
…our first Summon Materia!
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Note - while the materia's description mention wind element, the summon itself is not ; only if you link it to a weapon via an Elemental materia.
Omicron said:
Midgar Zolom hits for 400-500 damage, easily knocking any character into the critical range if not outright killing them in one hit. This is manageable. Zolom still has only one attack per turn, so as long as it's not a OHKO we can Cure the damage away and still get two attacks a turn.
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For these playing along at home, two ways to reduce incoming damage is a. inflict sadness on your characters (via Tranquilizer) b. put them in the back row.
Guile said:
Ahh, Yuffie. Gau and the Mog Squad from VI can only look on in envy at what passes for a missable side character these days.
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While grinding in the forest waiting for her to arrive, I thought - how high does she rank in the "optional characters that are a chore to get"? Ain't enough of a JRPG connoisseur to know the worst offenders.
Geckonator said:
So, not only does Elena have a different name in The Reunion (Yrena)
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Not Irina?
 
Omicron said:
…unless you don't try to fight the snake. The most natural process for this sequence would be that you arrive there, see the farm, check out the farm, someone tells you "beware the snake," and then you choose whether to try and brave it or just pay up and skip the doomed fight. If you choose to trust the game, and don't fight the giant snake, then that bit loses a lot of its effectiveness, doesn't it? Ah, well. The perils of giving players freedom, I suppose.
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Look, if you show an rpg player a sign that says "BEWARE, MEGADEATH INSIDE" 99% of them will check out what all the fuss is about

It's a natural instict.
 
I choose to believe that the Amano chocobo is the chocobo megafauna.

Paleolithic miqo'te and selkies and lupin hunted giant raptor-birds whose legs could feed an entire tribe along with a bucket of primitive hot sauce, occasionally getting their shit wrecked by a random yeti out of nowhere screaming enraged wookiee noises.

Only the yeti haven't changed.
 
Kuja said:
I choose to believe that the Amano chocobo is the chocobo megafauna.

Paleolithic miqo'te and selkies and lupin hunted giant raptor-birds whose legs could feed an entire tribe along with a bucket of primitive hot sauce, occasionally getting their shit wrecked by a random yeti out of nowhere screaming enraged wookiee noises.

Only the yeti haven't changed.
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Are Paleolithic Miqo'te at all similar to 80s big hair cat girls?
 
So re-reading the update before last, and Sephiroth says two things, first to Jenova and then to Cloud:

Sephiroth: "I've thought of a great idea. Let's go to the Promised Land."
and
Sephiroth: "I am the Chosen One. I have been chosen to be the leader of this Planet. I have orders to take the Planet back from you stupid people for the Cetra."

Just minutes ago, before Fire Stabbin' Time, Sephiroth explained to Cloud that the Promised Land would be something the Cetra found at the end of their long, hard (space) journey. Then he turns around and says he wants to take the Planet back for the Cetra.

Does Sephiroth think that taking the Planet back for the Cetra will make it a paradise, which he will then rule... or, and this is my favorite interpretation, once he conquers humanity or whatever, will Seph do the 'My people need me' meme and zoom off to travel the universe?
 
Guile said:
Does Sephiroth think that taking the Planet back for the Cetra will make it a paradise, which he will then rule... or, and this is my favorite interpretation, once he conquers humanity or whatever, will Seph do the 'My people need me' meme and zoom off to travel the universe?
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If were going with the interpretation that he's operating on zero sleep after at least three days of staring at small text in old books? It could be that he's making plans on the fly with the helpful advice of the hallucination of his "mother." It's probably more surprising he's managing to string together a coherent sentence let alone any kind of sensible plan.

Edit: Not meant to be a spoiler or anything, but the fact that he seems to be talking at (possibly to) Jenova, seems to indicate some level of hallucination.
 
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