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Maybe don't say that, since you're just telling Omi that the rest of the story sucks. Which is both rude and a spoiler.
Let's Play Every Final Fantasy Game In Order Of Release [Now Finished: Final Fantasy Tactics]
- Thread starter Omicron
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Is the plural of gil gils? I thought that it was just gil, same with moose.
A pirate climbing up a cliff to save a princess really reminds me of The Princess Bride, which should have been released when this game came out.
You're the hero, after all!
Kind of strange to see a Big Name like Shiva having such a small sprite, even if she needs to share her half of the screen with her backup dancers.
Zap Rowsdower
Ex-cultist vagrant
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- Bright lights, big city
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- He/Him
And not true/deceptive; for all that it's a lot more Dragon Quest (or "generic JRPG") than the rest of the series, it's still plenty of peoples' favorite with a lot of great moments and actual twists. 1 had a bad story, too primitive. 13 had a bad story, too poorly implemented. 5? I love it too much to say it's bad like that.
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I want to bring to your attention a plot point that may have slipped your mind, as I haven't seen much speculation on it...
Anyway, the only one of the next group I used at all in my playthrough was Time Mage, because I love shutting down enemy casters with Mute, so long as I have stronger physicals on my team. Haste someone on turn 1, maybe.
Anyway, the only one of the next group I used at all in my playthrough was Time Mage, because I love shutting down enemy casters with Mute, so long as I have stronger physicals on my team. Haste someone on turn 1, maybe.
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- California
Again, can we not spoil?
If Omi has forgotten something narrative, then that is an organic part of the experience and trying to "correct" that is just spoiling things.
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- Columbus, OH
I don't really follow your logic, but you seem unhappy so I've put it in a spoiler.
MagicMan333
Post-apocalyptic Gonzo Journalist
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- Washington
It really does sadden me how much people like to shit on V's story. I do think the TV Tropes article is right in saying that people seem to hate V just cause it's not the high drama of the games surrounding it. Which sucks cause I see V as the Brendan Fraser Mummy of the franchise, a fantastically-executed action-adventure story with a charming cast and a great sense of humor.
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- Texas
I…honestly don't feel like there's a eco/climate undertone with the crystals? Like, there's not any real foreshadowing suggesting the crystals are "wearing out" and the idea that purifying a single city's water (even for, presumably, generations) can cause the source of all watery-ness on the planet to go kaput doesn't click with me.
I'm more inclined to believe there's something up with those meteors, some sort of crystal targeting virus or something.
I'm more inclined to believe there's something up with those meteors, some sort of crystal targeting virus or something.
- Location
- Singapore
- Pronouns
- Singular They
There are also scholars with some very intriguing information:
The man not just gives us information, he has citations.
Truly the most professional Scholar in all Final Fantasy games ever.
Connelly
As useless as a penguin with mittens
- Location
- Salamanca, Spain
A blessed, based, and beautiful decision even to this day, let's be honest.
I'm... doubtful of this. These types of self imposed challenges do not feel like something the devs would foresee during development.
"And if he can't take a joke, then he can leave the village!"
... Ah. Ahhhhh. Yes. Let the hate FLOW (where's that Imperial March/Endwalker "Flow" remix when you need it...)
Yeah it's a pain. Although you can also make it worse by not leaving them enough space to move out. What I usually do is go through a door and come back, so their positions are back to default, and hopefully not in the way.
NO IT DOES NOT RUN BITCH RUUUUUN.
No I told you to run. To live. You did righy.
So this is the deal. These assholes have their defenses set to stratospheric levels. They dodge melee attacks, and they absorb magic. And they use 1) a Moon song that causes Berserk on the entire party, as a counter attack, and 2) a Critical attack that can kill even heavily leveled/jobbed characters easily. They also give no xp IIRC. You can kill them with, say, a heavily physical party (like Berserkers dual wielding, or berserk'd Ninjas. Last time I tried with two Berserkers and two healing Knights), but the only reason you'd want to force a battle is very meta and not useful for a first time player.
No, the phrasing is definitely confusing. Translation weirdness?
It was all a desperate and naked effort to get another hit. And nobody suspected a thing. These princesses, really...
Unless they're already gone into a path they can't move away: in that example, the guy I think can't walk into the water. He has the sides unpathed, and Omi behind. He truly can't do shit.
>shhh shh sh sh shhhhh, nobody say fuck all
Also, one of the axes that drops after about 5-6 dungeons from now, the death sickle, which causes instant Death. Not the best thing, because Berserker, but a decent idea for clearing trash is equiping that and getting Haste'd.
Make that at least half the party, I'd say. The Red command is a very flexible one for until level 4 magic.
There are a few other creatures that also have this kind of "whot" funnyness to them. Not only that. They're the same Gaelicats you can find in FFXIV's Heavensward. I think there a quests talks about getting a few of those wings because they want to study what the hell is going on with that.
Yeah, honestly? I still regularly make use of the red command on one of my characters despite having access to the highest magic tiers now, if just because it's the only magic they've learned and gives me a backup healer. Might be worth swapping them to white mage for a bit technically since that's most of what I use it for, but that's AP that could go elsewhere.
- Location
- The Great Beyond
- Pronouns
- He/She/They
My takeaway, and I can't recall if there was any animation support or whatever, has always been that Garula really is just a single animal, and you're simply wandering around and running into it and scaring it off when you 'kill' the random encounter ones.
Berserker is technically a very powerful physical attack choice at this stage, but there's only a couple of places this could really matter as useful honestly. It's stats are worse than a monks for passing to Freelancer, and it doesn't give any particularly notable abilities in my opinion.
Mystic Knight works like so: you cast a spellblade spell and for the rest of the fight (or until you die or cast another one) your weapon attacks are imbued with the spell.
What this actually means is depends. For damage spells, it does nothing unless the enemy is vulnerable to the element the spell has, in which case it acts like hitting the weakness but often with further caveats. For example, Blizzard will cause your attacks to treat ice vulnerable enemies defense as zero and also do double damage, Blizzara will cause the same thing except triple instead of double damage, and Blizzaga will cause the enemy to instantly die unless it's internally tagged 'heavy' (mostly bosses, but some standard enemies as well) in which case it 'merely' progresses to 4x damage multiplier (and still treat defense as 0).
For status magic, it attempts the status on attack. If the enemy is considered vulnerable to the status, it always works. There are cases of bosses with vulnerabilities like Sleep and Silence that can be puzzle fight shutdown more or less entirely by this means, but obviously you need to know (or guess) the specific weakness to do that particular trick.
Note that most Mystic Knight 'spells' do not benefit from the magic stat, due to modifying physical attack damage.
Also note that Mystic Knight spells are all a variant on an existing spell, and are not acquired separately. You can use the blizzard blade spell if you have blizzard, and when you eventually get blizzaga, you'll be able to do blizzaga blade just for that. They're a mix of spells from, if I recall right, time/black/white, weighted heavily towards black.
Time Mages are weird. Primarily, they're a buff/debuff mage, but they also have a lot of weird utility spells. Comet and Meteo go here, not in black, and are the generally best single target kill spells for when available. (meteo is like, the best single target spell damage in the game if I remember right). They're plenty decent but how useful you find them is gonna partly depend on playstyle.
Summoner is a lot like Final Fantasy 3, yes, in the sense that most summons are an automatic party wide attack, though some later provide buffs instead. As a general rule, summons are superior to black magic for crowd control, but inferior for single target damage- Blizzara has an attack of 50, which is cut in half on a mass cast, while Shiva (not really a spoiler, I think, to admit Shiva does ice damage) has an attack of 38, but is always mass cast at full strength.
Offensive summons usually bypass reflect, as well. Further, Summoner has the single highest magic score- anyone you want to be a caster in the late game will benefit from mastering Summoner at some point.
In the short term Red Mage could be used to make a snazzy arch-mage deal. After all, the RED command could be given to a summoner to get your currently available black AND white magic, and with the Summoner's superior modifer. Red Mages are pretty weak in stat lineup though, and yes, going for Dual Cast is the main appeal longhaul, which lets you cast two spells in a turn (anything Red level 3 could do, or anything else your character currently has a magic skill for, eg you can dual cast sumoners.)
FunkyEntropy
Occasionally insightful, possibly grumpy
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- Los Angeles
There's a lot of text already on the classes, so I'm just going to summarize
Berserker: Boss killer / single target murder machine. Slap doublehand on them because then they'll delete most things in the front row with one hit. Bad with crowds since you can't control what they target.
Mystic Knight: Even better boss killer as long as you exploit elemental weaknesses. Doublehand is, again, key to murdertime. Also good for deleting front row enemies.
Red Mage: currently good and slot efficient. Become less good later because they top off at level 3 spells.
Time Mage: Cast haste on your Berserker/Mystic Knight so they can murder things even faster. Slow is also utterly amazing for reducing incoming damage from tough enemies.
Summoner: king of deleting random encounters once you know what elements to use and have the appropriate equipment.
Berserker: Boss killer / single target murder machine. Slap doublehand on them because then they'll delete most things in the front row with one hit. Bad with crowds since you can't control what they target.
Mystic Knight: Even better boss killer as long as you exploit elemental weaknesses. Doublehand is, again, key to murdertime. Also good for deleting front row enemies.
Red Mage: currently good and slot efficient. Become less good later because they top off at level 3 spells.
Time Mage: Cast haste on your Berserker/Mystic Knight so they can murder things even faster. Slow is also utterly amazing for reducing incoming damage from tough enemies.
Summoner: king of deleting random encounters once you know what elements to use and have the appropriate equipment.
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Probably this. Japanese doesn't have a separate term for plurals - rather than one cat, two cats, it has one cats, two cats - so the translator may have made a minor error here.
FourthWall
Love & Destroy
- Location
- Chiraq
There's a trashy yuri manga joke in here somewhere
Omegahugger
Inattentive Idiot
I see it too!
I'm not blind, you're seeing it too, right?
... Of course, I have gone on record in thread that I can build a ship with only one or two one-liners (much less a dramatic rescue), but I still see it!
My guess would be that this way the game is more forgiving towards KOs. In previous games, well, you yourself have attempted no-death run because characters miss on exp otherwise, and bosses tend to cause KOs the most out of enemies, obviously.
Of course, the superior solution is to just give full exp regardless, but we're some years away from games stopping just dicking you over for no reason, so.
(Also, I don't remember how AP gain interacts with KO, and bosses tend to give you the most AP, which is actually important this early on, so possibly the game refrained from fucking you over in one way only to turn around and fuck you over sideways.)
Can confirm it totally just fucks you over sideways, dead characters don't get AP. Screwed me a bit when Faris died in the last two seconds of a fight against one of the major bosses recently.
Kadmus
Dragon's teeth are surprisingly hard to sow
- Location
- Devon
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Yeah, I suspect the weirdness around Garula is partially translation; the one in the tower is pretty clearly implied to be the buddy that was hanging around the town, though. Japanese does have an 'it' pronoun that's used for some stuff, so it could be a direct translation of that, too.
- Location
- Phoenix
Just to give you a warning moving forwards, FF5 has a much higher difficulty than the other games that you've played so far. With the others you could just kill everything you run into and be fine, but with FF5 you are effectively required to stop and grind on mobs.
- Location
- Amman, Jordan
- Pronouns
- He/Him/His
My sympathies and shared pain about the goddamn NPC hitboxes, Omi. Goddamn bastards keep getting in the way. Almost makes you want to mod this game so it's like Skyrim; mass murder everyone and then quickload after your mass murder to return to the plot.
Jackanapes is the sort of bastard who (to quote Gunny Sarge Hartman from Full Metal Jacket) would fuck a guy in the ass and not have the decency to give them a reach-around. He's a boss disguised as a low-level encounter, and he kicked my teeth in the first time I ran into him. Yeah, I was stuck running away like crazy after learning the hard way he couldn't be fought with the current party abilities.
whhyyyyyyyyy
That's one of the biggest flaws with JRPGs in general. They're pretty much linear plots with a railroad built in that even if you manage to beat the boss, the story still has to go in a certain path. While it does make sense given the limitations of the 16 bit era (or computers/consoles in general), it does frustrate players when their victories mean nothing. It also gives the impression that the heroes are a bunch of incompetent twits unable to do their job, or worse, are actively (if unwittingly) helping the villain achieve their goals (looking at you, Chrono Cross!). Here, it makes the party look incompetent, probably another reason why FFV didn't get the love FFIV or FFVI did in the west.
As for the jobs, Berserker is basically your mindless attacker, just automatically attacks over and over till the enemy (or the Berserker themselves) is dead. Definitely not something you'd want for a thinking man's fight, but definitely something for grinding mindless battles where physical attacks are the way to go, or if it doesn't matter how you beat the enemy. Red Mage is cool, but as others said, it doesn't give any stat boosts, and it takes a LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNGG time to grind out their final and best ability, so it's more of a long-term goal than a trump card. Time Mage is a combination of weird utility and powerful destructive spells, while Mystic Knight is pretty cool, but requires some knowledge of what to use (as well as having the appropriate spells to use).
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Zap Rowsdower
Ex-cultist vagrant
- Location
- Bright lights, big city
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- He/Him
Until you get Flare, anyway, at which point that's the only spell your spellblade needs for any situation
Drain and Osmose are still useful, provided you make sure not to use them against undead.
Connelly
As useless as a penguin with mittens
- Location
- Salamanca, Spain
Funny that you say this, because one of the most popular ways to mod Skyrim involves not murder, but just straight up disabling NPC collisions so that at least companions don't block your path. :_D
In all fairness, I only recall this problem only being the case with the water crystal. I'm hazy on later events but I don't remember this problem being repeated, at least not so inexplicably so. Again, I might offer translation weirdness as a possible cause. After all, we know that up to FF7/8 and Xenogears, translators keep having troubles forcing them to improvise and patchwork because they don't get enough information/time/resources/extra hands from Square.
"Eat nuclear fusion reaction powered by SWORD TO THE FACE, you shipfaced hanging post!"
- Location
- Nunya, Arizona
Those are 100% normal cats wearing some kind of wing harness, yes. Apparently they get backstory in later FF games, but in this one they're... just a random flaphappy cat.
The things I wonder is if they dive, or just fly straight into your face, and why it seems like no one's tried to actually build a functioning cat wing harness in real life.