Random thought - could have sworn at least one of the Delacroix bits mentioned that it was his work during the 50-Years-War that helped get him the Cardinal position. Since the PSX used Priest as the Job instead of White Mage, well, it was fairly believable that the Cardinal actually is strong enough to just crush Baert's skull. Might have even used a staff to do it... or his bare hands.
The execution site is normally not too bad - the enemy is spread out that everyone has to spend a little time to really concentrate forces. The bit I normally forget is putting all the support/mages in the second group, and having the nearby knight squish them.
Problem being that there's almost no way ASoIaF was an inspiration, so this is literally the translators/localizers having fun. Actually just a weird bit of convergent evolution, so to speak.
Yeah, lot of changes from the PSX version I am more familiar with. More flowery language, and a fair bit more transparent.
Regardless, I think this is the scene that gives me the most plot bunnies. For example, if Ovelia IS false, why keep her? She's been kept sheltered and out of the way for years; no one of major import (outside maybe Alma Beoulve) is likely able to identify Ovelia by sight. So why use her instead of one of their own pawns? Or is it they only recently discovered this, and have not had time to train their own replacement? Will Ovelia cooperate to avoid just being disposed of? If Duke Larg "found some other sire to ensure his sister's place as mother to the king", then who could it have been (operating under the assumption we aren't going full Lanister here)? Why did Delita linger? Was he reminded of his own sister, a valueless hostage that someone hopes to get at least a meager return from?
As for the Council, yes, they're apparently some sort of Chamber of Lords/Parliament among the nobles. Not too uncommon in medieval times to have the royalty and nobility jockying for actual control of the country, usually via who actually had military forces, could collect taxes, 'guests' better called hostages, etc. Biggest part to remember here is that Duke Goltana's power lays more with the Council, rather than Duke Larg who gave his sister for a connection to the throne.
This is new to the WotL version. PSX just had to pay attention to the encyclopedia entry to get clues on Wiegraf. Conservation of details/resources suggests Loffrey is Church related at the least, but we probably need a larger sample size to figure out if he's part of Formalv's group or not.
And I have SO many jokes about factions in FFT....
Minor nitpick - Hector was dead for quite some time by the time the Greeks got inside Troy.
Yeah, this can be a nasty one. I think I usually deal with it by having Ignore Height (look for it in Dragoon!) or Teleport (Time Mage!) to bypass the gate, or have Ramza in a build with enough sustain to do shenanigans while distracting Gaffgarion.
Yep, Tailwind and Yell/whatever strategies do need sustain so Ramza can get going. That is a problem.
The number of times I've had Agrias just refuse to go down is downright silly.
Meanwhile, I normally have that as my 3rd-to-4th purchased White Mage spell, simply to give them something to do when healing isn't needed (Cure, Raise, and Esuna are the other early spells). Again, just remarking on a difference on playstyle.
Some 27-years-ago, I held out the hope that I could take up the Fell Knight's class here.... only for them to be dashed. Still liked how they finished up Gaffgarion here.
Also completely new, and I feel a bit unnecessary? Though Aegis is a fun spell when it can actually be used.
So wished this, too.
Did.... did you actually ask if the clergyman was going to give you a sermon?!?
Probably would have preferred that, actually.
So, a fun bit of history. FFT came out, and later that year/early the following the original Berserk anime series, mostly covering the Golden Age Arc, came out. I believe the parallels here are obvious.
Especially here!
As for Cu Chulainn.... my understanding is that when the translation/localizer crew got it, they had no clue what his name was supposed to be, and were not able to get ahold of the right guy to clarify it (hence Queklain in the PSX version). Square/Final Fantasy policy of the time was to borrow freely from foreign myths for their big monsters - Espers, Summons, etc. What I've picked up is that the thought process was something along the lines of Scorpio - Scorpion - Poisonous Stinger - Poison Spear - what is a famous poison/cursed spear? - Gae Bolg - which is wielded by Cu Chulainn.
And if it makes you feel better, even knowing its coming doesn't make this fight much nicer.
Want the 'explanation' for why the Samurai class breaks their weapons?
And who is going to believe Ramza when they find him and his squad covered in gore and who-knows-what and the Cardinal dead/missing?
And I always interpreted this here as.... maybe think of it as an infernal Venom Symbiote? The Cardinal and the Lucavi working together, and the transformation and personality change is them switching who is driving.
Goltana having his own small council makes a bit of sense - again, he was in the running for regent because the Council favored him over dropping more potential power into Larg's hands.
I admit to often being confused by the army numbers given in the game. They seem unusually high - I always wonder if the nature of magic, potions, and the like mean the population is much higher, and non-death casualties much higher, than the numbers would have been in medieval warfare from the same time/tech-level. Not hard to believe when you think back to these past battles, and imagine how chaotic and messy they would have been even with just 25 units per side.
To put it in perspective, if Goltana and company are referring to the losses accrued in the past 4 months, Goltana's wounded-but-not-dead has matched the USA's non-mortal woundings.... from the entirety of World War 1. Deaths are only about 20% of total battle-and-non-battle deaths from WW1. And no one seems too alarmed about that, despite already having issues having just come out of the 50-Year War and food shortages.
The execution site is normally not too bad - the enemy is spread out that everyone has to spend a little time to really concentrate forces. The bit I normally forget is putting all the support/mages in the second group, and having the nearby knight squish them.
Problem being that there's almost no way ASoIaF was an inspiration, so this is literally the translators/localizers having fun. Actually just a weird bit of convergent evolution, so to speak.
Yeah, lot of changes from the PSX version I am more familiar with. More flowery language, and a fair bit more transparent.
Regardless, I think this is the scene that gives me the most plot bunnies. For example, if Ovelia IS false, why keep her? She's been kept sheltered and out of the way for years; no one of major import (outside maybe Alma Beoulve) is likely able to identify Ovelia by sight. So why use her instead of one of their own pawns? Or is it they only recently discovered this, and have not had time to train their own replacement? Will Ovelia cooperate to avoid just being disposed of? If Duke Larg "found some other sire to ensure his sister's place as mother to the king", then who could it have been (operating under the assumption we aren't going full Lanister here)? Why did Delita linger? Was he reminded of his own sister, a valueless hostage that someone hopes to get at least a meager return from?
As for the Council, yes, they're apparently some sort of Chamber of Lords/Parliament among the nobles. Not too uncommon in medieval times to have the royalty and nobility jockying for actual control of the country, usually via who actually had military forces, could collect taxes, 'guests' better called hostages, etc. Biggest part to remember here is that Duke Goltana's power lays more with the Council, rather than Duke Larg who gave his sister for a connection to the throne.
This is new to the WotL version. PSX just had to pay attention to the encyclopedia entry to get clues on Wiegraf. Conservation of details/resources suggests Loffrey is Church related at the least, but we probably need a larger sample size to figure out if he's part of Formalv's group or not.
And I have SO many jokes about factions in FFT....
Minor nitpick - Hector was dead for quite some time by the time the Greeks got inside Troy.
Yeah, this can be a nasty one. I think I usually deal with it by having Ignore Height (look for it in Dragoon!) or Teleport (Time Mage!) to bypass the gate, or have Ramza in a build with enough sustain to do shenanigans while distracting Gaffgarion.
Yep, Tailwind and Yell/whatever strategies do need sustain so Ramza can get going. That is a problem.
The number of times I've had Agrias just refuse to go down is downright silly.
Meanwhile, I normally have that as my 3rd-to-4th purchased White Mage spell, simply to give them something to do when healing isn't needed (Cure, Raise, and Esuna are the other early spells). Again, just remarking on a difference on playstyle.
Some 27-years-ago, I held out the hope that I could take up the Fell Knight's class here.... only for them to be dashed. Still liked how they finished up Gaffgarion here.
Also completely new, and I feel a bit unnecessary? Though Aegis is a fun spell when it can actually be used.
So wished this, too.
Did.... did you actually ask if the clergyman was going to give you a sermon?!?
Probably would have preferred that, actually.
So, a fun bit of history. FFT came out, and later that year/early the following the original Berserk anime series, mostly covering the Golden Age Arc, came out. I believe the parallels here are obvious.
Especially here!
As for Cu Chulainn.... my understanding is that when the translation/localizer crew got it, they had no clue what his name was supposed to be, and were not able to get ahold of the right guy to clarify it (hence Queklain in the PSX version). Square/Final Fantasy policy of the time was to borrow freely from foreign myths for their big monsters - Espers, Summons, etc. What I've picked up is that the thought process was something along the lines of Scorpio - Scorpion - Poisonous Stinger - Poison Spear - what is a famous poison/cursed spear? - Gae Bolg - which is wielded by Cu Chulainn.
And if it makes you feel better, even knowing its coming doesn't make this fight much nicer.
Want the 'explanation' for why the Samurai class breaks their weapons?
And who is going to believe Ramza when they find him and his squad covered in gore and who-knows-what and the Cardinal dead/missing?
And I always interpreted this here as.... maybe think of it as an infernal Venom Symbiote? The Cardinal and the Lucavi working together, and the transformation and personality change is them switching who is driving.
Goltana having his own small council makes a bit of sense - again, he was in the running for regent because the Council favored him over dropping more potential power into Larg's hands.
I admit to often being confused by the army numbers given in the game. They seem unusually high - I always wonder if the nature of magic, potions, and the like mean the population is much higher, and non-death casualties much higher, than the numbers would have been in medieval warfare from the same time/tech-level. Not hard to believe when you think back to these past battles, and imagine how chaotic and messy they would have been even with just 25 units per side.
To put it in perspective, if Goltana and company are referring to the losses accrued in the past 4 months, Goltana's wounded-but-not-dead has matched the USA's non-mortal woundings.... from the entirety of World War 1. Deaths are only about 20% of total battle-and-non-battle deaths from WW1. And no one seems too alarmed about that, despite already having issues having just come out of the 50-Year War and food shortages.
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