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Last Light of a Dark Age (Warhammer 29K/Disco Elysium)

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[X] Attrition. Slow, measured. Inflict the greatest material damage for fewest lives lost. Use your Night Witches sparingly, leveraging your immunity to illusion, target ammunition dumps, ballista batteries - tighten a vice around Phalanx Hypnos that will expose him. Then your strong reserve of Night Witches will strike, and end him.
[X] Use the Auratic Thread.

I actually think All-Or-Nothing plus No Thread is the strategy most likely to kill Morpheos outright. But I don't think it's worth the risks, and in any case I don't think the vote is going to change much.

[X] Our Sister of Supreme Mercy. This is an idealization of your axiom The Witch they Wanted, reframed as a protection of the weak against the strong.

Probably will wind up being the most fitting idealization, which should make the clash between that idealization and reality interesting.

[X] The Caprices. Gods, in a human shape. Ever-passionate, ever-spiteful monsters, too-caring, too-interested, their hands on the lathe of fate, their intentions malice, evil, cruelty. The Immaculates, the Prime Souls, the Titans.

I went back and forth on this a lot. Illuminata is a profoundly broken place because of the Colossi, so if we're talking about who has the most responsibility for everyone's current problems, they win. But if we're talking about hate and fear, or what makes a being evil instead of just harmful, I would say the Caprices are a more fitting option.
 
SigmaVanDyke said:
On the other hand, I am starting to suspect that Sympathy's ultimate fate is going to be something that could be described as "The Young eating the Old." It would explain why Harmony holds some of Sympathy's memories and would a suitably traumatic culmination of Harmony's growing possessiveness.
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Interestingly, that quote comes from Icon Bellamona, Obsidian Butterfly's buddy who she killed. I think the whole thing is going to be really complicated because you've got that then you've got Sympathy's occult knowledge that our Sympathy memories revolve around then you've got all the Kora stuff that might happen. Harmony seemingly missed the fact that there is one figure in the Progeny who adds a thorn to the Prime Soul induced flatness of their culture and she's got a huge fucking bridge dedicated to her - one that's set to mysteriously disappeared from the maps.
 
On the subject of questions, is Harmony the best swordsmachine in the Progeny? And if not, how many selves will she have to merc to achieve that position? Perhaps, she could request her code name be changed if she wakes up.
Edit: I think Harmony should have a cool moniker to replace the Ms. Normal one on account of that one not being the real Harmony. Perhaps something tongue-in-cheek like Ms. Jazz Dancer or Ms. Cutting Heart.
 
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IronKnightofSilv said:
On the subject of questions, is Harmony the best swordsmachine in the Progeny? And if not, how many selves will she have to merc to achieve that position? Perhaps, she could request her code name be changed if she wakes up.
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Harmony is certainly very skilled but I don't think powerscaling is a major concern for her right now. With 4 Living Weapon and 6 Motion Blur (+2 on reactions) you are certainly a very capable soldier. Your null field is very powerful and your Pythascene enhances it.

That is not why you are a squadron commander, though.
 
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Cetashwayo said:
That is not why you are a squadron commander, though.
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I bet it's because she has the "best vibes". Just Kidding. I bet the Progeny's promotion track is composed of So You Think You Can Kora contests, their version of popularity contests, bedside politics, mean girl-offs, and how good you are at following and exceeding orders without dying.

Edit: Wait. Was one of the inspirations for the Progeny the movie Heathers? Because that is the vibe I'm getting now looking back.
 
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I'll add another outlandish conspiracy theories, to inspire Infowar for when it's fully functional again. I've been looking at the original options:

Cetashwayo said:
There is only death for them, and despair for their people. I have scattered their wonders to the wind as dust is scattered in its season. I have conquered paradise. I have done this, I, the Bronze King, and I alone.
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New conspiracy: The Dreamspace had something to do with the sacking of Carnosa. They did something subbtle like encouraging the Bronze King to war with them through agents, undermined Carnosa's defenses, or suppressing protests. Perhaps they didn't want carnosa to be a thing anymore because it would be harder to lure people in with their promise of utopia if there was a real one existing to compete?
 
IronKnightofSilv said:
I bet it's because she has the "best vibes". Just Kidding. I bet the Progeny's promotion track is composed of So You Think You Can Kora contests, their version of popularity contests, bedside politics, mean girl-offs, and how good you are at following and exceeding orders without dying.

Edit: Wait. Was one of the inspirations for the Progeny the movie Heathers? Because that is the vibe I'm getting now looking back.
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All is forgiven, baby! Come on, get dressed
You're my date to the sarcophagus tonight!

You chucked me out like I was trash
For that you should be dead
But, but, but
Then it hit me like a flash
What if history went away instead?
Those strangers are the key!
They're keeping you away from me!
They made you blind, messed up your mind
But I can set you free!
 
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Horologer said:
I actually think All-Or-Nothing plus No Thread is the strategy most likely to kill Morpheos outright. But I don't think it's worth the risks, and in any case I don't think the vote is going to change much.
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Oh wait interesting you think without the thread has better odds? I actually felt IronKnight's argument prior that All or Nothing as a baseline is fairly typical and that absent the thread Morpheos would be prepared for it fairly apt.
 
I wonder when Hyperion's Crimson King epitaph comes into more prominence? He seems to be more commonly referred to as the Red Sun during the war so far.

Anyone wanna speculate on what Penitence is up to? We know she's dangerous and dangerously unhinged, she still loves her sister and seemed to be connected to Faith, she's also got butterfly imagery going on although she's a supreme butterfly rather than an obsidian one and she's all cracked up for cocoon/egg metaphors. She's probably got less of an eye on her with the Immaculates going hog wild with the blood sacrifice and humiliating Sympathy. Oh and also a bunch of the troops we're commanding are fanatically loyal to her. Of the two sisters she's the one I more associate with Kora while Sympathy has a lot of association with Remari. Considering the whole Cult of Kora I think it's not unreasonable to view "becoming Kora" as Penitence's ultimate end goal. I find that a way to reconcile the "Kora will return" prophecy with the whole Kora never leaving or dying. Also this means we can enter another name on the "Who'll kill Sympathy?" Contest! Will Penitence or one of her followers (maximum gut punch would be Elegy) kill Sympathy under a flag of truce and blame Koinon (and maybe Harmony (or, hell, the Immaculates)) thereby recreating the death of Remari?

Man if Sympathy strung up all those death flags she's been collecting on the Tree of Souls she might be able to represent a fraction of the amount that Kora wants wants to die.
 
Thank you for posting! I love your writing, you do an excellent job.

I'm kinda neutral on the vote choices, so I'll probably not vote. If I do I'll probably edit it in later.
 
All of these are such interesting and tempting interpretations of Harmony's Axioms but I'll have to vote for Mercy due to the contradiction between it and the present Progeny Orthodoxy seeming to carry some of the most interesting potential for Harmony and her Witches in challenging the core of themselves in their conditioning and beliefs, especially in their perception of themselves as Hylics both undeserving of Mercy and yet simultaneously better than the Strangers they detest yet with whom they arguably share more features with than the other Kora of their 'Sisterhood'

Though I wouldn't mind any of the others winning as Candour's commitment to truth seems great for helping the Witches learn how to be honest with themselves, Harmony especially, and to recognise their wants as being in opposition to what the Progeny selfishly demands of them.

Whilst Passion has utility in it's narrative advancement of Blackstar whilst a position of overwhelming passion for the pain of others may help in cultivating a sense of empathy in them, though such could easily end up worsening their cruelty. Though the messianic vibes of it are very tempting regardless.

Though I am compelled to vote against it on the basis that I simply do not believe that there is any virtue to be found in pain or that further experiencing the pain of others will help Harmony or any of the other Witches in improving themselves in a non self-destructive capacity.

Regardless, should they survive I really am quite interested in seeing how they grow as my criteria for this specific vote option keeps switching between wanting to see them grow in either a personal capacity or in a 'watching a cult grow in real-time regardless of morality' sort of way

[X] Our Sister of Supreme Mercy. This is an idealization of your axiom The Witch they Wanted, reframed as a protection of the weak against the strong.

My impression of Harmony's thoughts and actions these past few updates is that she is a person with a great many beliefs and principles but unable to either discipline or uphold them due to their contradictory natures. Given her bigotry against foreigners and her cruelty I think it is important that she has a foundation to prevent her incoherency from turning her into someone willing to act on this.

I believe that Colossi will provide her a foundation and better yet provide a target that she cannot merely kill and thus force her to actually think.

It also helps that I believe that it will help her in developing a systematic critic of her present society which will help her avoid the pitfalls of believing that misery emanates from 'evil' individuals instead of the wider workings of her world.

Thematically I also prefer the iconoclastic atmosphere of attempting to fight an uncaring force of reality itself versus trying to fight Illuminata's temporal tyrants though that is also plenty cool.

[X] The Colossi. Gods in an inhuman shape. Alien, structural forces, indifferent, grinding, uncaring, that define time, define history, define creation, by their brutal, impersonal design. The suns, the seasons, the sea.

I don't have a strong opinion on this but Use and Attrition seem like they have good synergy and I'd like to keep as many of the Night Witches alive as we possibly can.

[X] Attrition. Slow, measured. Inflict the greatest material damage for fewest lives lost. Use your Night Witches sparingly, leveraging your immunity to illusion, target ammunition dumps, ballista batteries - tighten a vice around Phalanx Hypnos that will expose him. Then your strong reserve of Night Witches will strike, and end him.
[X] Use the Auratic Thread.

Also a thought that came up while I was typing, What is the plural term for multiple selves, is it Kora or Koras? Or is it like how sheep can be used as both a plural and individual term?

Also, I cannot comprehend how some of you can be so quick with your long posts as it has taken me many days to coherently verbalise my ideas in text which in my now mushy brain seems like magic :V
 
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[X] The Colossi. Gods in an inhuman shape. Alien, structural forces, indifferent, grinding, uncaring, that define time, define history, define creation, by their brutal, impersonal design. The suns, the seasons, the sea.
 
[X] The Colossi. Gods in an inhuman shape. Alien, structural forces, indifferent, grinding, uncaring, that define time, define history, define creation, by their brutal, impersonal design. The suns, the seasons, the sea.
 
[X] All-Or-Nothing. A massive, sweeping operation, aimed at the very center of Phalanx Hypnos. An antifragile strategy - if Morpheos is there, the whole of the Witches will fall on him - but if he is not, he must choose between having the center of his phalanx cut off from his illusions by your null fields - or face you head on.
[X] Use the Auratic Thread.
[X] Our Sister of Supreme Mercy. This is an idealization of your axiom The Witch they Wanted, reframed as a protection of the weak against the strong.
[x] The Colossi. Gods in an inhuman shape. Alien, structural forces, indifferent, grinding, uncaring, that define time, define history, define creation, by their brutal, impersonal design. The suns, the seasons, the sea.
 
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    • 1. Use the Auratic Thread wins.
    2. Attrition wins.
    3. Caprices wins.
    4. Our Sister of Supreme Mercy wins.

    Scheduled vote count started by Cetashwayo on Apr 2, 2025 at 2:53 PM, finished with 241 posts and 58 votes.
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