It's Turbin' Time (Library of Ruina Modded/Arknights)
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kaillll
Judgment Upon You
... Even in disguise, Whitenight is a god, And a god, a capital g, God can do whatever it wants, And it is part of the story that whitenight can cure any disease. So, yeah, if he wants to, he can cure anyone.
But he considered it as a blessing, So he won't unless he deems you worthy, and even then it is really not good to be deemed worthy by the serpent in disguise.
Gun and Powder
Tax Evader the Arknight Operator
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- W.Corp Train
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- He/They
Btw is the Cross thing normal for apostle? Since I don't remember it being a thing Andoain have nor any of the Apostle creatures in the fight. It's like super late so my memories might by hazy on it.
Better not be white night.
Well this is just as bad.
Seneron4
Have at thee!
- Location
- Lost in Transportation
Would Adam stay in Kazimierz long enough for Sieg to run into him? He might just bless Jamie and then leave to spread his love to other parts of Terra. We're gonna go to RI after Sal Viento and even Sleepy and Nicole don't know Linette is in Kazimierz so that information reaching Sieg is gonna take time. I frankly don't think we're gonna have an IC reason to go to Kazimierz before Adam leaves.
kaillll
Judgment Upon You
Doomsday clock is ticking away.
Oh dear. Oh dear.
In character. We have no reason to go to that place yet.
The next place we will go to is Rhode island, because they are here and they will get curious and we'll run into them most definitely, get treatment about our fairy situation and get back to full strength, then pick up our buddys and leave or stay for some reason even though we still need to go for a global search for our friend.
We have no reason to go to that place... And when we do, Adam is already left, even if on foot.
... He might show up at Rhode island though, to "Help the suffering ones" And steal some important guy right under kai'sits nose.
Oh dear. Oh dear.
In character. We have no reason to go to that place yet.
The next place we will go to is Rhode island, because they are here and they will get curious and we'll run into them most definitely, get treatment about our fairy situation and get back to full strength, then pick up our buddys and leave or stay for some reason even though we still need to go for a global search for our friend.
We have no reason to go to that place... And when we do, Adam is already left, even if on foot.
... He might show up at Rhode island though, to "Help the suffering ones" And steal some important guy right under kai'sits nose.
drearyArchon
Chaos Lord Chaos
- Location
- The Floor of Social Sciences
It depends on what criterion Adam is using for his Apostles. Back in LobCorp WN didn't have one and just blesses pretty much every Agent who did a Work on him. In Ruina, WN/Angela can just turn anyone they choose into an Apostle, once he manifests.
Adam seems to be a bit on the pickier side considering he's only taking notable people as far as we could see. If he just needed 12 people who'd take his gift, he'd have just walked into any Infected Disctrict and have it done just like that.
Instead, he has a Named Arknights Character and a Kazimirez Knight as Apostles. Which... might point to him only choosing people strong enough to take his gift? WN only blesses Agents and not Clerks, so that might check out.
Oh fuck. Ohhhhh fuck. Andoain's the first disciple?
...I feel like Adam is gonna end up being a penultimate boss if we aren't wary. He's most likely being set up to be- Classic WN vibes, with shit slowly building until reaching a breaking point. In this case, though...Remarkably, I feel like Adam's 'apostles' would be more powerful without the apostolic transformation; It could be that something like the Reverberation Orchestra might be forming, too, rather than the pure 'singular' existence of WN and its apostles.
...Can't tell which is worse, honestly. At least WN's disciples can be strategized around, and do the same things...If Adam varies from the abnormality in this fashion, the only real 'answer' we have to him is basically a gang war between his apostles and Turbulence Office, and that would likely cause unbearable repercussions on our end.
...I feel like Adam is gonna end up being a penultimate boss if we aren't wary. He's most likely being set up to be- Classic WN vibes, with shit slowly building until reaching a breaking point. In this case, though...Remarkably, I feel like Adam's 'apostles' would be more powerful without the apostolic transformation; It could be that something like the Reverberation Orchestra might be forming, too, rather than the pure 'singular' existence of WN and its apostles.
...Can't tell which is worse, honestly. At least WN's disciples can be strategized around, and do the same things...If Adam varies from the abnormality in this fashion, the only real 'answer' we have to him is basically a gang war between his apostles and Turbulence Office, and that would likely cause unbearable repercussions on our end.
kaillll
Judgment Upon You
There will always be a traitor in the story of whitenight, The one who betrayed the cause of the false god and decides to repent for his sin, and bring doom upon this army of demons in disguise.
... So either we go for the hard solution that is fighting Adam, or the easy solution that is convinc the traitor.
Sadly, we don't know where one sin and hundreds of good deeds are, so the latter option is temporarily off the table.
... Let's get more allies, shall we?
... So either we go for the hard solution that is fighting Adam, or the easy solution that is convinc the traitor.
Sadly, we don't know where one sin and hundreds of good deeds are, so the latter option is temporarily off the table.
... Let's get more allies, shall we?
Seneron4
Have at thee!
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- Lost in Transportation
By the time Adam is a big problem he is gonna be everyone's problem so Turb isn't gonna be alone while fighting the Apostles. Even before he reaches full power we can probably get RI on our side.
If this is the case then its nearly guaranteed that Adam would've left by the time Sieg gets to Kazimierz
Nemov
Isn’t it better to be dumb?
- Location
- Holy Russian Federation
...It's good that we have to deal only with Adam and not with the White Night itself. Because, you know, an immortal entity capable of directly attacking a soul with twelve flying disciples is worse than a person using the powers of this entity.
kaillll
Judgment Upon You
I believe he's synchronized with whitenight, or at least the plague doctor.
Showed by the ego gift and the blessing.
So he is getting apostles, possibly for unlocking more power, I don't think the power is that stable because there is only a blurred image of the ego gift for normal people but...yeah.
Prepare for armageddon.
Showed by the ego gift and the blessing.
So he is getting apostles, possibly for unlocking more power, I don't think the power is that stable because there is only a blurred image of the ego gift for normal people but...yeah.
Prepare for armageddon.
I was not expecting Adam to be introduced so soon, but with the way this is going I feel like this will be our final boss of this quest, a threat that Turbulence Office and the people of Terra NEED to work together against, since keep in mind if Adam gets his 12 apostles we'll be fighting White Night without Qliphoth deterrence basically meaning a real God would descend upon Terra in full power and form.
Nemov
Isn’t it better to be dumb?
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- Holy Russian Federation
At least if we kill him, he die, unless of WN itself.
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In the Ayin realization...you have no One Sin in Adam's fight- Not in the expected form, anyways. Ayin shows up at the twelfth ring of the bell, and restores everyone over time. Which is needed in phase 2. Desperately.
...This seems to be following along those lines; So it may suffice to say that we're gonna be well and truly up shit creek once Adam 'advents' without an easy way out. Then again...it was doable then; Difficult, but doable. Even without One Sin's help, we would have still remained able to do it.
What would have been completely impossible without One Sin is Roland's confrontation of the self. The singular abnormality page used in that last phase is Light of Redemption; A sudden glimmer of hope in a situation that promises only to annihilate the self without a single hint of mercy. After that's put on Roland, everything starts shifting in your favor. The boss uses status ailment attacks in huge quantities, when then leads to them being summarily purged and Roland gaining strength and endurance out the wazoo.
...I do wonder what the equivalent for Ayin's 'fight' is going to be.
kaillll
Judgment Upon You
Ayin will not fight a obviously good hearted individual, Unless we run direct counter into his goals, which we don't even know what it is, he sees no reason to do that.
Post light ayin is a guy who is genuinely nice, he doesn't inflict pain onto other person pointlessly and have genuine passion.
Post light ayin is a guy who is genuinely nice, he doesn't inflict pain onto other person pointlessly and have genuine passion.
questioningmeme
Just be yourself
- Location
- River of Light
...Taking into account things...maybe its about time we get Sieghart's fairy problem fix up huh?
Because Whitenight sucks major balls as an opponent to fight even with a massive army to due to his "BBZZZ HERE COME 80 PALE DAMAGE BECAUSE FUCK YOU THATS WHY" bullshit.
Given that Abram is basically utilizing Candy Shark real good, its obvious that Adam isnt gonna be any weaker than L-Corp Whitenight.
And another thing to note. One Sin is always around way before WN is. So Big A himself being around before Adam get all 12 apostles is pretty likely.
We just need to find the guy, or the abnormality, given that Ayin is supposed to be stuck in the light like Carmen is.
Because Whitenight sucks major balls as an opponent to fight even with a massive army to due to his "BBZZZ HERE COME 80 PALE DAMAGE BECAUSE FUCK YOU THATS WHY" bullshit.
Given that Abram is basically utilizing Candy Shark real good, its obvious that Adam isnt gonna be any weaker than L-Corp Whitenight.
And another thing to note. One Sin is always around way before WN is. So Big A himself being around before Adam get all 12 apostles is pretty likely.
We just need to find the guy, or the abnormality, given that Ayin is supposed to be stuck in the light like Carmen is.
LucidProp
Pocky Eating MafiaDoka
It's a good thing that Terran nations have experience murdering gods. There's a reason why the planet is majority atheist nowadays!
That aside, this sounds like we'll want the help of Feranmuts if we ever come to a confrontation with Adam and WhiteNight. The friendly ones open to working with people are Kjeragandr who is weakened outside of Kjerag, the Sui Siblings who are fragments of a greater whole squabbling with each other and likely individually weaker than when they were united, Nine Colored Deer who's more of a doctor than a combatant, and Alive Until Sunset who could contest the Seaborn but if IS3 is anything to go by, ultimately beaten by Ishar'Mla.
Not looking good for us overall. There's Ishar'Mla I guess, who isn't strictly a Feranmut but something close enough to them that it's basically semantics (Behemoth), but that's a whole other can of worms.
That aside, this sounds like we'll want the help of Feranmuts if we ever come to a confrontation with Adam and WhiteNight. The friendly ones open to working with people are Kjeragandr who is weakened outside of Kjerag, the Sui Siblings who are fragments of a greater whole squabbling with each other and likely individually weaker than when they were united, Nine Colored Deer who's more of a doctor than a combatant, and Alive Until Sunset who could contest the Seaborn but if IS3 is anything to go by, ultimately beaten by Ishar'Mla.
Not looking good for us overall. There's Ishar'Mla I guess, who isn't strictly a Feranmut but something close enough to them that it's basically semantics (Behemoth), but that's a whole other can of worms.
questioningmeme
Just be yourself
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- River of Light
A thing to worry with unrestricted Whitenight is that he is as close as we get to capital G, God in Project Moon.
What ever "new" abilities WN has, we have 0 ideas about.
The only thing stronger than WN is a Manager(Ayin) with a plan, and One Sin.
There's also The Last Helix, but that thing is the equivalent of the dinosaur killer asteroid while also being an ordeal so it's out of the question.
A note on WN's personality. He comes to mankind as a savior. Very similar to Adam and Carmen's personality. WN believes that Humanity can only be saved in holy fire.
If you reject him, he shall punish and reprimand you to listen to his words.
The concept of a "Holy Savior" who can grant salvation to all of mankind.
Honestly speaking, after the pain in the ass fight with him in Lobotomy Corporation, I have 0 hope of us beating him without One Sin.
In Library of Ruina, you can't even kill the bastard by hitting him real hard.
What ever "new" abilities WN has, we have 0 ideas about.
The only thing stronger than WN is a Manager(Ayin) with a plan, and One Sin.
There's also The Last Helix, but that thing is the equivalent of the dinosaur killer asteroid while also being an ordeal so it's out of the question.
A note on WN's personality. He comes to mankind as a savior. Very similar to Adam and Carmen's personality. WN believes that Humanity can only be saved in holy fire.
If you reject him, he shall punish and reprimand you to listen to his words.
The concept of a "Holy Savior" who can grant salvation to all of mankind.
Honestly speaking, after the pain in the ass fight with him in Lobotomy Corporation, I have 0 hope of us beating him without One Sin.
In Library of Ruina, you can't even kill the bastard by hitting him real hard.
drearyArchon
Chaos Lord Chaos
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- The Floor of Social Sciences
Incorrect. You can in fact, hit him hard enough to kill him. You just lacked the opportunity to. I think there's a video around of Hokma using Thirtheenth Toll + Overcharge to deal enough Pale Damage to kill him, instead of relying on One Bro.
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- Iceland
Semantics but the Sea based Gods are referred to as Leviathans iirc, Behemoths were what the Feranmut were called in the community before we got the official translation. Though Feranmut is a combination of the latin fera and Bahamut so the dichotomy still kinda works, it's just a bit more elaborate.
Ties the whole "Terra is Noah's Ark on a massive scale" theory up neatly with a nice bow on top.. or makes you wonder if you're trying to read too much into it.
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questioningmeme
Just be yourself
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- River of Light
Ah. My beloved. The literal nuclear option. I shouldn't have doubt you.
But I don't think we have Pluto's bullshit+Price of Silence to help us out this time around.