Itinerant: A Pilgrim Quest

For the sake of consistency, I just edited it to read eleven. As said, oversight on my part, I always intended to have Notker and his company count twelve heads total, I miswrote it there. My utmost apologies for the confusion.

No problem at all! I just wanted to make sure they were all accounted for.

[X] Show mercy, and put him out of his misery.

Even now as he lays dying Notker blasphemes and curses us for the misfortune he brought upon himself. The greatest mercy we can show is a swift end to his pain and his words before they damn him further. Without any desire to repent on his part I believe our prayers will bring him no comfort and little aid.
 
I find it extremely cruel to just let a man suffer when we can end it in some form.

Notker is a man of action, I'm sure he'll appreciate us taking the initiative instead of, from his perspective, sitting there and chanting. That would be torture for a dying man who isn't exactly pious.
 
It's good for his soul tho. And normal people don't really go "oh, you're dying. Here, lemme speed it up for ya, buddy-pal"
 
The body is weak, the spirit is eternal. We have learned this first-hand. He will not pray for himself to save his soul, thus it becomes our duty to try.

From an IC perspective - do we believe that the Saints are real? Then the torment of being under the the Malefactor's power would be far greater than any torment a body could endure in life. OOC... well.
-[JK] Despite yourself, you couldn't help but smile.
The sentiment is shared.

(That, and I also personally want to see his expression as we pray for his passing to the afterlife)

I don't give a damn about what Notker would appreciate or not. He would have liked nothing more than being alive and selling us as a slave, what does that say about our course of action?
 
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Mental trauma for us, possibly distracting Cu before he was done -> he gets killed -> we get screwed.
 
3.7 Tending to Corpses
So! With some debate, showing mercy and praying won, which means that other options lost. Now for a slightly longer update with more choices that may or may not end up with you being haunted and hunted by vengeful dead (note: vengeful dead may or may not exist).


3.7 Tending to Corpses

Seeing Notker seethe with such rage and hatred, you were initially taken aback, but through the power of the saintly faith, you persevered, and you knelt next to him and put your arms to the sky and sung the praise of the Saints, and beseeched them that they would receive Notker as one of their own, and absolve him of his sins. And he at first mocked you for this, but such was the might of the Saints that they took his tongue away from him, so that he could not curse nor blaspheme further, and your prayer could continue uninterrupted until such moment that the hateful grasp he had on life was loosened, and he finally abandoned the temporal. Thus died Notker, and although he had lived as a very wicked men, you had hope that by the zeal of your prayer, he might be granted some measure of reprieve or solace in the life everlasting, so that he would not join the Malefactors in the house of the damned that is called Hell. For it is said often that the vile men who live their final moments in great pain, which is to them terrible, but is hundred times smaller than the lightest of the tortures to which the damned are eternally subjected, are through it averted from their wickedness, and through their remorse and regret are spared damnation; and that is why it is often said that it is better not to dull the pain of agony, for it is the final grace that the Saints in their kindness impart on men. Although it must be also admitted that watching Notker bleed, and then die, in spite of prayer, you still doubted that he would be, in the end, delivered.

As you finished your prayer, you also offered the souls of others to the Saints, and particularly Cu, who although you feared might had been not entirely free of the errors of idolatry had nonetheless died in a noble fashion, which brought no shame to his name, nor to the name of his family, and you considered to relate the story of his death to others, so that it might one day reach the distant Rosemary Island.

The field around you was silent; twelve men died, and you were once more left alone, in utter solitude and with little knowledge as to where to go next, or which road to take. But even before that could be put into consideration, there were other matters which seemed to you rather urgent, and that is what to do with the dead.

First, there was the matter of their possessions. It could not be denied that they had many items of value and use on them, such as clothing and weapons and wealth which they carried in form of various jewels. However, it was also indisputable to you that it was an ignoble act to rob the dead of what was theirs. Warriors stripped and looted the foes they had slain on the fields of war, but such was the custom of battle, which scarcely applied to the slaughter around you; furthermore, it seemed to you that the booty of that fight would belong to Cu more than to you. Furthermore, it was also something that you had to consider that to steal from the dead could very well incur their displeasure, and you had heard stories of how the slain had avenged themselves on robbers of their tombs.

(Note: this choice concerns only items that are to be found immediately on corpses, and not the general supplies that can be found on the barge).

[ ] Loot the corpses.

[ ] Loot the corpses, but only for the items that are immediately necessary to you.

[ ] [specify what do you take]
[ ] Leave the rest to be buried with Cu.
(Only applicable if you decide to give Cu a burial).​

[ ] Do not loot the corpses.

[ ] Loot the corpses, but set aside the loot to bury it with Cu.
(Only applicable if you decide to give Cu a burial).

From the possessions of the dead, two items stood out and had to be considered separately; first was the spear that belonged to Cu and was called the Rye-stalk, and second was the sword that Notker carried, which had a pearl set into its pommel, and it was also a very fine weapon, even if the pearl was marred and stained (although it seemed to you to be in a better condition than it was while Notker had wielded it). Such arms, particularly the spear of Cu, were great treasures, and it was obvious to you that the families of the deceased would like to see them recovered and restored, so that they may continue to be used, until such a time that they break or the common sainthood is achieved. However, you also considered that they were not to be picked lightly; and that perhaps you were neither fit nor worthy to carry them onto your journey towards Step everlasting.

[ ] Take up Cu's spear.

[ ] Take up Notker's sword.

[ ] Leave the weapons with the dead.

Next was the matter of the corpses. The bog was ripe with scavengers and beasts that would pick the bones of the dead, and it was a very bad thing to let it occur; the dignity of the dead had to be protected, or else there was the risk of being haunted by them by not observing it. Of course, you were not kin to them, and therefore the danger posed was smaller, but it was still a pious and just thing to do to give the dead their dues, although indisputably onerous and difficult. Perhaps the most expedient way was to put the corpses into the river Charm, for its waves to do with it as the Saints please; such were often the proceedings of bandits and brigands who would tie stones to the legs of those they had slain and put them into water, believing that (particularly if they had bound their hands before) it would serve to protect them from the wrath of the dead. However, it was not a very saintly custom. The alternative was to dig in the ground a grave for them, which would be a task that could easily take some days of labour – although you had the supplies necessary to last that long. Finally, it was also the possibility to only bury some of them; perhaps the wickedness of Notker's men was such that they did not deserve to be put in the soil, but should be rather left to wolves and other beasts, to which they were kin more than to men.

[ ] Abandon bodies to the wolves.
[ ] [specify which]

[ ] Throw bodies into the river.
[ ] [specify which]

[ ] Dig graves and give proper burial.
[ ] [specify to whom]

Finally, there was also the barge. There were many supplies gathered on it; food and wine, and some fabrics, as well as the chests that it was carrying from Grace to Breakers; and you opened one of them, and found it full of silver and gold. It occurred to you that it was likely that it was it the king's gold, from taxes or other sources, and Notker was sent to guard it. There was certainly much of it, although there were no coins in it, and most of it in items which were difficult to carry, such as chalices and chains, and many of them appeared to be items taken from shrines, and bore signs of the saintly faith. If you wanted to, you could take some of it, although your pack was mainly filled by the Book of Roots, and so there was not much space left in it for gold – although of course you could abandon the book for the temporal treasure, hoping it to avail you better in the coming times.

[ ] Pick some of the treasure for yourself.
[ ] Pick more treasure, but abandon the Book of Roots.

[ ] Do not succumb to avarice and let the treasure be.

The rest of the treasure would have to stay on the barge, for someone else to find; or perhaps you could release the barge from its mooring and allow the undertow of the river to carry it forward, perhaps even as far as the city of Breakers; if the Saints would will it, it perhaps could still reach the place it was destined to reach. Otherwise, you could also use some of the oil which the barge carried, and set fire to it, so that it would go to the bottom of the river, along with the gold, so that no one would recover it, and perhaps cause it to be forgotten.

[ ] Leave the barge as is.

[ ] Release the barge and let it go with the river.

[ ] Burn the barge.
 
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[X] Loot the corpses, but only for the items that are immediately necessary to you.
[X] Our cloak
[X] Leave the rest to be buried with Cu.

[X] Take up Cu's spear.

The man who called himself Cu must obviously have been acting upon the plans of the Saints, even though he might not have known. We must bring his spear back to his family safely, and if it can serve us well in the meantime...

[X] Dig graves and give proper burial.
[X] All of the men

To not have a proper burial is a gruesome fate, and though these men might have lived in wickedness, we can at least absolve them in death.
[X] Write-in - Leave a eulogy for Cu
"In this earth, lies interred Cu who swore to touch no woman under sun or moon and held his oath until death. Let he who would give his life in exchange for a pilgrim's be remembered and cherished."

[X] Pick some of the treasure for yourself.
Enough money to come by, and then leave the rest.

[X] Burn the barge.
A suitable fate, is it not? Burying the barge beneath the cold of the waves, just like we bury the men beneath the cold of the earth.
 
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Whoa, some great choices there!

We should loot the bodies for liquid cash and an easily concealable weapon. A dagger, perhaps? Something that would be easy to carry on our person, rather than in our backpack. We should takeback our cloak, and provisions to last us a while. We probably won't be able to carry much more than that.

We should bury Cu and not waste our energy on Notker's men. Let nature take care of them. May dump them in the water, but I wouldn't bother even with that.

Don't touch Notker's sword, it's too easy to recognize. On the other hand, Cu's spear is debateable. I'd probably bury it with him, and mark the tomb if we want to guide the family to his resting place if we ever find them, or if we ever take this route again to pay our respects. The shrine is near, so the spot should be hard to miss.

Finally, about the barge... We probably shouldn't mess with the King's gold. Chalices, chains... all of those are items that are not easy to sell without the right contacts, and would cause questions to be asked of us. Plus, it is hard to carry - and what did the dream and the drawing on the shrine has taught us? We are a piligrim, and those should travel lightly.

I wonder, though, if there is still something we could do with it. Namely, take a chest or two and bury it in the ground. The barge with no men is bound to become spoils for the bandits, so this could be called safekeeping, really. And it would be within our control who gets the treasure. We may drop an anonymous note to King's men if we so wish, donate it to the Church, or reward people who would do us a favor should we think they need it more.

(Arrrr, matey!)

[X] Loot the corpses, but only for the items that are immediately necessary to you.
-[X] Money, a small concealable weapon, a javelin, your cloak and a fibula, traveling supplies.
-[X] Leave the rest to be buried with Cu.

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[X] Take up Cu's spear.
-[X] Wrap the spear up with rags to reduce the attention it might draw.

[X] Throw bodies into the river.
-[X] Everyone else
[X] Dig graves and give proper burial.
-[X] Cu

[X] Bury some of the treasure near the shrine, leave the rest on the barge.

[X] Release the barge and let it go with the river.
 
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Namely, take a chest or two and bury it in the ground.

Leaving behind great treasure won over terrible foes early into a long journey with a high uncertain chance of success, so that you may recover it later on, when returning? Hmm, where did I see it before. Hm! I wonder if next, you will have to fight with riddles against some strange, subterranean creature to won its great, precious treasure.
 
[X] Loot the corpses, but only for the items that are immediately necessary to you.
-[X] Money, a small concealable weapon, a javelin, your cloak and a fibula
-[X] Leave the rest to be buried with Cu.

Were he able he would claim it. The rest, if salvageable, is necessary.

[X] Leave the weapons with the dead.

I was a bit torn over the spear, but I think such a thing is likely to hurt us more than help, cool or no. :<

[X] Dig graves and give proper burial.
-[X] All

In our time with Cu he proved a man worthy of good treatment, certain, but virtue is not in picking and choosing those we enjoy the company of and those who act kindly to us, and it is not the place of a pilgrim to judge. Even if it is difficult...

[X] Do not succumb to avarice and let the treasure be.
[X] Burn the barge.

An empty barge floating down river without the king's treasure is likely to get more king's men in the area asking after Notker and those he left with.
 
[X] Loot the corpses, but only for the items that are immediately necessary to you.
-[X] Money, a small concealable weapon, your cloak and a fibula
-[X] Leave the rest to be buried with Cu.

[X] Leave the weapons with the dead.

If we take Cu 's spear we're just gonna lose it. I am a 100% sure of this. Better to direct his family to it or come back around after we're through so we can take it straight there. Where is Rosemary anyway?

[X] Dig graves and give proper burial.
[X] All

It's the right thing to do.

Don't know what to do with the barge.
 
How about we place the dead bodies insude the barge, then burn it? Cremation counts as a proper burial I believe, and that's the common practice before and even when Christianity took root in Europe, if I remember my classes correctly.

Cu's the exception. We bury him.

[X] Loot the corpses, but only for the items that are immediately necessary to you.
-[X] Your Cloak and Fibula
-[X] Some Money
-[X] A concealable knife
-[X] Leave the rest to be buried with Cu.
[X] Leave the weapons with the dead.
[X] Dig graves and give proper burial.
-[X] Cu's

--[X] Write-in - Leave a eulogy for Cu
[X] Do not succumb to avarice and let the treasure be.
[X] Burn the barge.
-[X] After you've placed the rest of the corpses there.
 
Hmm my initial thoughts are as follows:

For looting the corpses we should take back what was stolen from us, an extra dagger, and the jewels (some of which we should set aside and offer to the church in their name). The weapons we can bury with Cu although it might be useful to bring along a hatchet if there is one.

For the weapons I believe that we should take up Cu's spear until we can see it returned to his family. I am split on Notker's sword. On one hand it has spilled innocent(ish) blood and I think it should be tossed into the river, on the other hand the aside about the pearl is interesting and it might be worth bringing it with us to see if it is magical give to Reik's widow (after all, Notker did give it to him after Reik demanded payment).

Cu deserves a proper burial. Digging everyone a grave would be to time consuming and we run the risk of wolves coming to investigate before we are finished. Throwing the bodies into the river isn't very saintly and if we don't weigh them down we run the risk of them being found down stream. Would it be possible and acceptable to burn the bodies with the barge?

The treasure should probably be buried / hidden. There are many ways it could come in use later.

Unless we are feeling really, really, lucky we should either leave or burn the barge. We should grab some rope as well before we leave.
 
[x] Loot the corpses, but set aside the loot to bury it with Cu. (Only applicable if you decide to give Cu a burial).
[x] Dig graves and give proper burial.
[x] [Cu]
[x] Abandon bodies to the wolves.
[x] [All but Cu]

[x] Pick some of the treasure for yourself, making sure to recover our cloak and fibula.

I don't think we can dig to bury all of them. Grave-digging is really hard. Bury Cu, but leave the others where they lay.
[x] Burn the barge.
I'd rather the barge just vanish for good. Cleaner that way.
 
If cremating them is acceptable then I could go for that. If we're leaving the spear we shouldn't make the grave site to obvious though.
 
Still half asleep so proper vote later, but.

-we have a knife, we just need a sheath.
-we shouldn't take the spear if we don't think we can keep it with us long enough to return it to Cu's relatives. Burying it with Cu and unobtrusively marking the place is a better alternative
-re burning the barge, I'm afraid if gold doesn't make it to destination there will be collectors sent out to beat more out of people :/
-bury Cu, don't leave anyone to wolves, leave the sword (with Cu?)
- I don't like the idea of eulogy bc it links us (well, some pilgrim) to the battle explicitly and I'd rather minimize chance of ppl asking awkward questions
Also seconding that if we are leaving the spear then hide the grave. Better his relatives eventually coming for him to take him home or something than someone looting the grave. On at thought, make grave hidden either way.
 
I'd rather not dig for several days to bury these guys. If we are burning the barge, just put them there.

I have no idea why we are burning it with all the items that aren't ours. Also, a total shame no one is going to bruy the treasure. A shame, I tell you!

(The treasure is useless to our journey to the city of Step, but do we remember what is the goal of the journey? If our brothers are being kept captive somewhere and we need to pay ransom for them to return - wouldn't it be nice to have something to fulfil the miracle of the Saints with? What happened to "Trust in God and keep your powder dry"?)

Also seconding that if we are leaving the spear then hide the grave. Better his relatives eventually coming for him to take him home or something than someone looting the grave.
Who would loot a makeshift grave in the middle of nowhere, in the bogs? It is hardly a resting place of the wealthy people.
 
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