Itinerant: A Pilgrim Quest

[X] Made the oath and agreed to be with him.

I'm always in the mood for some weird sort of romance. He's going to die anyways, so we might as well.
 
I'm always in the mood for some weird sort of romance. He's going to die anyways, so we might as well.

If I were five years older, I know what I'd link here:



Wait. I linked it anyway? Does it make me younger? Did I find the secret of eternal youth? And they say that the quests bring nothing good to you.
 
Though this time period wasn't nearly as prudish as people seem to think it was

Historian's note: Okay, this is going to be somewhat problematic to explain succinctly. Let's start with saying that this is not wrong to say per se, mainly because the notion of prudishness as we understand it today is far more modern than the sexual ethics of the middle ages (variously understood); and it is always among the temptations of a historian to preface his findings or research with the claim of "unlike we think" or "unlike we like to think", in order to show that he is breaking new grounds, and research into the medieval sexuality is particularly guilty of it. You can't seem to find a book about that that is not prefaced by the author or the editor saying something to that effect. Anyway!

Anyway!

Before such claims are made, it is important to separate a few planes on which sexuality existed. In simplification, let's consider the following three fields. First, we have what we would today consider prudishness or the lack of it, and that is the degree to which matters of sexuality can be discussed, shown and considered in public; and in this, it is easy to point how "non-prudish" that epoch seemed to be (my favourite way to would be to point to a story from one of the chronicles of that time about a bishop who, after sending his wife away, was hounded relentlessly in the night by her, because she wanted to be satisfied and would not let him live in peace until he had her for the night). Next, we have to consider the influence of the Church and the sexual ethic it tried to influence. In the time that we concern ourselves with, those efforts have met a modest success - although polygamy was ceasing to be practiced, it was still for example a very popular practice to take concubines and the penitentials of that time attest to the immense amounts of focus that the clergy put on trying to impose a stricter, marriage-oriented and heavily regulated sexual ethic. The other leg of that project was the spread of the cult of virginity and chastity, making both of those states appear more "blessed" than the alternative (although again it bears mention that the Church was by no way consistent in that, with both more liberal and more restrictive views coexisting within it as to whether and to what degree sexual liaisons are doomed to be sinful). Thirdly, it needs to be remembered, particularly when female sexuality is concerned, that the virginity or sexuality of the women was viewed in categories of clan honour; and to this day archaeologists find bodies of women drowned in bogs and swamps in ways that link to the punishment for improper sexual conduct. It was, of course, a major case of a double standard, but particularly in the epoch we deal with, female sexuality was considered to pretty much belong to her clan and her family first and foremost, and therefore attack on it was an attack on the clan, and she had nothing to say as to how it was supposed to spent and placed. And it is perhaps telling, if a bit macabre, that we have to remember that in that time rape was not actually considered a crime against a person, but rather against property - that is, it was not the woman that was damaged, but rather the family's dignity and honour, to which she was merely a bearer of sorts.

The above is of course cursory, and the matter is far more involved and complex. However, less than to go into fine details of it, I rather wanted to signalize some issues we face when trying to understand other modes of sexual conduct and ethics, and point out that they are both multi-faceted and incredibly difficult to render in modern terms without appearing god-damn horrifying. Not that they are not, on the other hand.
 
[X] Made the oath and agreed to be with him.

[X] You said to him also that it seemed to you that the promise still does not bar him from returning home, as even if he had found his impossible thing, all that it meant was only that his return was no longer sure, not that it was sure not to happen.

It seems to me that all that finding the thing means, if it even refers to the Pilgrim, is not the same as what he thinks it means? Or it could be on me, as well, but, I mean, I think finding the thing negates the sureness of the return and not the return itself.
 
I'm now torn. On the one hand, I like romance. On the other hand, he was seriously a douche. On the third hand, sleeping with him seems incredibly out of character with what's been presented so far. On the fourth hand, he's Cuchulain.

So...two for, two against. Torn!
 
For me, saying 'no' is mostly about avoiding possibility of pregnancy. Because we so don't need to deal with that on the journey, on top of everything else.
 
Can we convince him to run for it? Cause jerk or not just letting him die feels wrong.
 
3.5 Do Not Look
Okay, after a much more intense competition than before, swearing the oath and not sleeping with Cu won. Some promises were made, other remained unbroken. What follows is a very short update, but sadly to make it any longer would require intensive padding, which I would rather avoid. And so, I am a bit apprehensive about that one, but hey, there it goes. Enjoy!


3.5 Do Not Look
In the dark that befell you when the fire went you, you made the promise to him; and you swore by the names of all the Saints, and particularly by the name of Saint Odo, and you swore to the sun and to the moon, even if they were not there to witness it, and you swore it to the ground beneath your feat and the sky above, and to the seas that are deep, and to the mountains that are high, that you will not cease nor abandon your quest, wherever the road may take you. And a certain weight came over you, for such words are not to be idly spoken, and Cu recognized that, and bowed his head to you.

And to his request, you said no, and reminded him that he could not sleep with a woman, for such was the restriction he imposed on himself to be strong. He seemed taken aback by that notion, but as the night gives way to the day, surprise gave way to understanding, and he said:

"I see now plainly that which was obscured from me."

And he explained to you that you were right, and that he would not need to sunder oaths made to meet the future he had promised. And he took into his hands the spear which was called the Rye-stalk, and he cautioned you to three things: that you should not follow him, that you should sleep in the ruined shrine, hidden behind a wall, that in the morning, there would be a great much of shouting and screaming, and that you must not look at it until all is silent and the crow caws.

Then, he kissed you, chastely and on the cheek, and left you, and although great dread came over you, you slept, and there were again dreams and visions, and of them, and again you remembered none of them, but only for the sense of severity around them. But as you woke up, you noticed that on one of the walls of shrine there was a preserved painting, and although colours were faded, you could clearly see on it a pilgrim on a very narrow bridge over a very deep chasm, and behind her was the city of the temporal and ahead of her was Step everlasting, and below her was damnation.

But before you could consider the meaning of it, a terrible sound reached your ears, as if a howling from a dozen throats, and the sound did not cease, and others joined it; there were screams and shouts and there was also the ringing of steel, and it was by the sound alone that you were rendered sick, for with each howl repeating, it sounded even more terrifying than before; and if the Malefactors could walk the earth, that would be the sound of it weeping under their feet.

Mindful of Cu's warning, you…

[ ] Nonetheless tried to look.

[ ] Waited for the crow to caw.
 
[X] Waited for the crow to caw.

I think I actually like this dude, but also to a certain extent I want to keep our character.

And I'm respecting the warnings that were given, especially as this sounds like the kind of thing where if we look, we see see him in danger or something, accidentally calling out, and distracting him to his death.
 
[X] Waited for the crow to caw.

It seems the Pilgrim is getting a lot of reminders that she's on a very narrow bridge over a very deep chasm. Curious that this shrine has a female pilgrim painted there, unless it's just projection on the Pilgrim's part.
 
It seems the Pilgrim is getting a lot of reminders that she's on a very narrow bridge over a very deep chasm. Curious that this shrine has a female pilgrim painted there, unless it's just projection on the Pilgrim's part.

Subtlety in symbolism was made for different epochs!

EDIT: I stopped and considered what I was saying, and then remembered the opening passages of Eco's Name of the Rose and was reminded that I am full of shit.
 
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