It Belongs to a Museum

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Both Druchii and Skaven are interesting, but I favor the former over the latter for the reason that as a Skaven revenant, we're likely to be the ONLY Skaven around.

At the least, we know Harkon is still trading with the Druchii, but having personally jilted the Horned Rat would make it very hard to have peaceable interactions with other Skaven.

Vampire or spirit would probably lead to a more focused story without the secondary cultural focus, but I'm kinda open either way because it's Boney.

I mean we can train to become a necromaner, peaceable interactions with other Skaven are not actually needed in order to get more Skaven to serve under us. Sure the regular zombies wouldn't be much of an interest, but eventually we can give them the same deal the vampires gave us: 'serve me in death and receive life eternal'. There are going to be takers.
 
Throwing this out there as I think it makes sense. Mutant as one of the options, as there is very few places in the world where they might live openly. This place is probably one of them.

But it makes more sense as a sub vote option probably.
 
Could anyone share how the different druchii warlock options differ from one another?
The options are the major cities in Naggaroth, and the non-city clans in the mountains.

Naggarond, Hag Graef, Clar Karond, Har Ganeth, Karond Kar, Shade Clans.
By basic stereotype:
Witch-Kings super-intrigue court, Slave-mining city, beastmaster-city, Khaine-worshipper bloody city, Corsair City.

Edit: The actual Witch-City, Ghrond, is not mentioned of course, because a male wizard would not have escaped from there.
 
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@Boney I have another one I want to write up, but is this format what you're looking for?

[] Ogre Intellectual
Ogre Intellectual. One would be forgiven for thinking the phrase a contradiction in terms; the very thought a favoured subject of comedy troupes and satirists Mallus over. However, a chance meal with a sorcerer and his intellect-bolstering headband saw you become just such an entity, your physical hunger leading, in turn, to a hunger of the spirit and the mind. No longer sated by the paltry game that ventured near your home, you wandered among the little people searching for sustenance before arriving at the door of something more than a man and less than a beast.
 
The options are the major cities in Naggaroth, and the non-city clans in the mountains.


By basic stereotype:
Witch-Kings super-intrigue court, Slave-mining city, beastmaster-city, Khaine-worshipper bloody city, Corsair City.
Witch King super intrigue Court..... I'm starting to have a epiphany.

One of the big things that our character will do is looking into the history of things brought to him and possibly giving advice on what to look for next! The better the advice more they might perhaps lend a listening ear. This of course means

Shady Vizier maxxing, being the whispering ear telling people to go get shinys while giggling and leaning out behind things. Become the most trustworthy voice possible, while being extremely shady all the fucking time.
 
Look, here's a crazy thought, Skaven Revenant Warlock Engineer, because it also means that not only do cool things need to get displayed in a museum, but maybe they need to be researched(!), reverse-engineered(!!), and written about(!!!).

(Okay probably not published but who knows, there's always correspondence courses)
 
Shady Vizier maxxing
My Lord Harkon, the others plot against you! They are sick... They want to take your power! Don't listen to them my liege... only me, only I remain your humble servant! And what of your Admirals? Spies, one and all! Spies for the Dreadfleet! Oh, but I am loyal! I have always been loyal! You must know that, majesty!

You must act quickly my lord... those vermin rise up against you... an expedition must be had... a Nehekharan Sphinx would strike fear into the hearts of your enemies! Mummy gold would attract a thousand sails to your banner! Time is of the essence, oh lord of the seas...
 
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Yep, but Skavens killed Nagash. It will be more cooler to be necrorat.

I would maybe consider voting for the Skaven because they're funny but I'm worried that it wouldn't fit a longer form quest that gets into the head of its main character and that the voters would have a hard time RPing a Skaven (and wouldn't really want to, because it would mean playing a racist coward with no friends who stabs everyone who isn't us in the back).

Remember, EVERY Skaven is, at his core, delusional.
Every Skaven, every single one, believes he is the greatest Skaven in existence and will not hesitate to stab his fellow rat in the back to gain an advantage. Skaven are, at their core, creatures of Chaos, ALL of them are tainted by the Horned Rat.
The only Skaven to come even close to breaking this mold is Queek with how he treats Ska, and Queek is VERY insane. Like, Queek thinks he hears the voices of his dead victims talking to him and his reaction to seeing the surface for the first time was to try to fight a cloud.
Skaven are almost alien in their mindset. They hate beauty, they love filth, they are ALL racial supremacists, they're all hateful and petty, and they're all cowards. Read the Warhammer wiki or any of the army books or Thanquol novels if you don't believe me, Skaven are deliberately designed to be irredeemable villains.
Also, I said "he" a lot when describing Skaven because, canonically, every single female Skaven gets turned into a horrible mindless mutant monster, and I suspect the voters would prefer to play a female character like in Divided Loyalties. That's not possible with Skaven.

So how would the voters react to being pigeonholed into RPing what's basically a rat version of Jack Horner from the Puss in Boots movie if Jack Horner was a rat-man fascist?
I honestly don't think many people would like it.
We could of course ignore canon for the many unsavory aspects of being a Skaven, but then why are we playing one?

Skaven are very funny when you don't really think about what it means to be a Skaven, but I don't know if that would fit the quest format.
 
I would maybe consider voting for the Skaven because they're funny but I'm worried that it wouldn't fit a longer form quest that gets into the head of its main character and that the voters would have a hard time RPing a Skaven (and wouldn't really want to, because it would mean playing a racist coward with no friends who stabs everyone who isn't us in the back).

Remember, EVERY Skaven is, at his core, delusional.
Every Skaven, every single one, believes he is the greatest Skaven in existence and will not hesitate to stab his fellow rat in the back to gain an advantage. Skaven are, at their core, creatures of Chaos, ALL of them are tainted by the Horned Rat.
The only Skaven to come even close to breaking this mold is Queek with how he treats Ska, and Queek is VERY insane. Like, Queek thinks he hears the voices of his dead victims talking to him and his reaction to seeing the surface for the first time was to try to fight a cloud.
Skaven are almost alien in their mindset. They hate beauty, they love filth, they are ALL racial supremacists, they're all hateful and petty, and they're all cowards. Read the Warhammer wiki or any of the army books or Thanquol novels if you don't believe me, Skaven are deliberately designed to be irredeemable villains.
Also, I said "he" a lot when describing Skaven because, canonically, every single female Skaven gets turned into a horrible mindless mutant monster, and I suspect the voters would prefer to play a female character like in Divided Loyalties. That's not possible with Skaven.

So how would the voters react to being pigeonholed into RPing what's basically a rat version of Jack Horner from the Puss in Boots movie if Jack Horner was a rat-man fascist?
I honestly don't think many people would like it.
We could of course ignore canon for the many unsavory aspects of being a Skaven, but then why are we playing one?

Skaven are very funny when you don't really think about what it means to be a Skaven, but I don't know if that would fit the quest format.

  1. That is not the nature of the Skaven, that is the culture of the Skaven, Boney explored that quite a lot with Querch in Divided Loyalties. As seen with him that is something that can be changed and worn down
  2. The bit about female Skaven is not true in this version of the setting, Rat Mothers exist and are just as horrific as described, but some of the regular skaven are female. They even have romance books... which involve some kind of plot contrived mind control for why the love interest male or female can't betray the protagonist.
 
I would maybe consider voting for the Skaven because they're funny but I'm worried that it wouldn't fit a longer form quest that gets into the head of its main character and that the voters would have a hard time RPing a Skaven (and wouldn't really want to, because it would mean playing a racist coward with no friends who stabs everyone who isn't us in the back).

Remember, EVERY Skaven is, at his core, delusional.
Every Skaven, every single one, believes he is the greatest Skaven in existence and will not hesitate to stab his fellow rat in the back to gain an advantage. Skaven are, at their core, creatures of Chaos, ALL of them are tainted by the Horned Rat.
The only Skaven to come even close to breaking this mold is Queek with how he treats Ska, and Queek is VERY insane. Like, Queek thinks he hears the voices of his dead victims talking to him and his reaction to seeing the surface for the first time was to try to fight a cloud.
Skaven are almost alien in their mindset. They hate beauty, they love filth, they are ALL racial supremacists, they're all hateful and petty, and they're all cowards. Read the Warhammer wiki or any of the army books or Thanquol novels if you don't believe me, Skaven are deliberately designed to be irredeemable villains.
Also, I said "he" a lot when describing Skaven because, canonically, every single female Skaven gets turned into a horrible mindless mutant monster, and I suspect the voters would prefer to play a female character like in Divided Loyalties. That's not possible with Skaven.

So how would the voters react to being pigeonholed into RPing what's basically a rat version of Jack Horner from the Puss in Boots movie if Jack Horner was a rat-man fascist?
I honestly don't think many people would like it.
We could of course ignore canon for the many unsavory aspects of being a Skaven, but then why are we playing one?

Skaven are very funny when you don't really think about what it means to be a Skaven, but I don't know if that would fit the quest format.


I don't think being a Skaven means you are guaranteed to be like you described. Skaven Society is really fucked for Skaven but i don't think its impossible for a Skaven to be a person. The Skaven option has escaped the Grasp of the Horned Rat so it will be up to us whether we choose to be a "creature of Chaos". Sure they might be in a town full of Zombies pirates but I am 100% sure that Boney will let us explore what it is to be a Skaven and not force us to be a "creature of Chaos".
 
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So how would the voters react to being pigeonholed into RPing what's basically a rat version of Jack Horner from the Puss in Boots movie if Jack Horner was a rat-man fascist?
I honestly don't think many people would like it.
I think a LOT of people would enjoy that. Jack Horner and the Skaven are so over-the-top irredeemable that it becomes hilarious. Constantly feuding and backstabbing others over slights real and imagined (probably mostly imagined) as a comically inept egomaniac who probably spends half their time high on drugs while trying to rob the entire world sounds absolutely hilarious and a blast to play.
 
in this version of the setting
I'll accept that what I said is only true of Skaven culture and not the basic Skaven condition in this version of the setting, but everything I said is accurate to non-fanfic Warhammer Fantasy lore.
Still, if we're going for a Skaven who doesn't have to be like that in this version of the setting, then my concerns about playing one are assuaged.

Jack Horner and the Skaven are so over-the-top irredeemable that it becomes hilarious.
My point wasn't that the Skaven aren't normally funny, only that if you seriously get into a Skaven's head it quickly stops being funny and starts getting really dark.
But if this setting is different, then there's no problem.
Although I do still hope we can be Skaven-y without getting quite as dark as canon. I don't want to play a Pathfinder Ratfolk in Warhammer.
 
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We don't actually ever meet a regular skaven, because most skaven are skaven slaves. We mostly meet the top of their societies, which naturally have more buy in into the system.
 
I can't help but feel like, if things go Skaven, it will rapidly progress from there to a fight between Eshin Sorcerer, vs Skyre Warlock Engineer.

You know, three parts of the four part classic combos.

Zombie Pirate Ratman Ninja, vs Zombie Pirate Ratman Robot.
 
My idea for a fun character.

Retired pirate : Wight

You've served in your time as an undead thrall over a dozen different 'Ultimate Masters of Death Itself' over the millennia. From over ambitious mortuary priests to revenge bent Brettonian peasants to Vampires with mad dreams of empire to Skaven seeking a forbidden path free of their chittering god to The Great Necromancer Himself.

You've seen it all, and now by some twist in fate, you find yourself free. By the hand of Luthor Harken, in one of his more 'eccentric' moods. For "Exemplary service my jolly good fellow!" and "Why don't you run this museum for me!"
"Show everyone how great it is to work for the Grand Admiral, there's a good chap"

So that brings you to now. Curator of the finest (only) museum of the Vampire Coast. Spending your days evaluating the rare antiquities (over priced fakes) brought to you from the fine denizens (pirates) of the Vampire Coast. To fill the exhibits of your fine establishment and (hopefully) make your kind benefactor (mad overlord) happy so he doesn't change his mind on the whole 'you having free will' thing.

Undeath is suffering, just not the kind you expected.

Welcome to the Vampire Coast.
 
@Boney I have another one I want to write up, but is this format what you're looking for?

[] Ogre Intellectual
Ogre Intellectual. One would be forgiven for thinking the phrase a contradiction in terms; the very thought a favoured subject of comedy troupes and satirists Mallus over. However, a chance meal with a sorcerer and his intellect-bolstering headband saw you become just such an entity, your physical hunger leading, in turn, to a hunger of the spirit and the mind. No longer sated by the paltry game that ventured near your home, you wandered among the little people searching for sustenance before arriving at the door of something more than a man and less than a beast.

This gives an explanation for how this character exists, but I can't really see anywhere to go with it. It doesn't raise any interesting questions or highlight anything interesting about Ogres.
 
Remember, EVERY Skaven is, at his core, delusional.
Every Skaven, every single one, believes he is the greatest Skaven in existence and will not hesitate to stab his fellow rat in the back to gain an advantage. Skaven are, at their core, creatures of Chaos, ALL of them are tainted by the Horned Rat.
Literally by definition in the vote itself, we would be playing as a Skaven who looked at the "promotion by backstabbing" power structure of Skaven society and went "i do NOT have it in me to get to the top."
 
What happens to the immortal soul of an Orc?
They come back round for another go.

So I had an idea for two potential Chaos Dwarf options.
I also had some Dawi Zharr ideas, might share them later though

Do I think this will win? No. Do I think this might be running out the joke? Yes. Did it stop me? No, again!

Why am i ere yer ask? back home, a bit uv trouble kame around. Had ta flee or it was me head on 'da choppa. Ol boss would've kept it 'der wit' str'n. So, Iz walk'n an i hear a bunch uv 'umiez talk'n. Now at furst, i was like Gorefoot, yer lucks up. Ere's some 'umiez, give im a gud two whacks, easy dinna. But dese 'umiez were talk'n all about find'n someth'n an how dey'd give anyth'n ta have it. I said ta myself again, gorefoot, ya rememba when ya met dose Boyz out eastward. Tall gobbos wit' 'da wolves talk'n about merkanary work an how 'umiez would give anyth'n. Now, i wont lie. Didn't fink much uv it at 'da time. Mostly jus went about some chopp'n uv im gobbos, but i remembered, so out i kame an' introduced myself. Turns out im 'umiez was look'n for some stuntie place. I showed it ta im an would yer believe it, dey gave me a nice shiny for it. Used ta be i have ta go do all sorts uv bash'n an' smash'n an' chopp'n for a shiny. Don't get me wrong, i love a gud krumpa, but it's a bit easia ta jus go find stuff an' ya get to have a propa krumpa every now an' den, so wot do ya say. Yer wanna hire gorefoot, best uv da findaz.
He has my vote!
 
This gives an explanation for how this character exists, but I can't really see anywhere to go with it. It doesn't raise any interesting questions or highlight anything interesting about Ogres.
Hmmm, how about this?


[] Amazon

Retriever of Treasure. Butcher of Norscans. Handmaid of the Gods.

In the dark heart of Lustria's jungles lurks a foe as patient as any jaguar and as lethal as any lizard beast, its cutting claws and venomous bite falling on all who would dare to defile the ashes of their forebears and the temples of their gods. Known by many names, the Warrior-Mystics of the Amazons seek to preserve the secrets of the Old Ones come the End Times, hidden wars between the warrior-women and countless interlopers fought in the depths of the jungle and under the light of strange stars. Devout to the end, the Amazons are willing to suffer any indignity if it means the preservation of their people and the recovery of artefacts from the High Age—even, it is said, seeming to serve the vampire-pirate Luthor Harkon to spirit away those items that are more than what they seem.


(Not that I would be surprised if the lack of information on the amazons and the general move away from their existence makes it untenable).
 
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Hmmm, how about this?

[] Amazon

Retriever of Treasure. Butcher of Norscans. Handmaid of the Gods.

In the dark heart of Lustria's jungles lurks a foe as patient as any jaguar and as lethal as any lizard beast, its cutting claws and venomous bite falling on all who would dare to defile the ashes of their forebears and the temples of their gods. Known by many names, the Warrior-Mystics of the Amazons seek to preserve the secrets of the Old Ones come the End Times, hidden wars between the warrior-women and countless interlopers fought in the depths of the jungle and under the light of strange stars. Devout to the end, the Amazons are willing to suffer any indignity if it means the preservation of their people and the recovery of artefacts from the High Age—even, it is said, seeming to serve the vampire-pirate Luthor Harkon to spirit away those items that are more than what they seem.


(Not that I would be surprised if the lack of information on the amazons and the general move away from their existence makes it untenable).

If that's some of the Deep Lore you want to engage with, they're the Valkyries that the Norscan option mentioned. But you can't just be them at chargen, you have to earn those answers.
 
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