Huh. Just out of curiousity, @mp3.1415player, should your list of examples be taken to indicate that Humans (and/or Thranx) currrently have gamma ray lasers? Because that's Yet Another Thing™ the Citadel/Turians are going to freak out over.

(Have not actually played the games, know a decent amount about them from popcultural osmosis, know about the 'pipe dream beam weapons' thing from a bunch of Mass Effect crossover fanfics...)
 
Another Thing™ the Citadel/Turians are going to freak out over.

(Have not actually played the games, know a decent amount about them from popcultural osmosis, know about the 'pipe dream beam weapons' thing from a bunch of Mass Effect crossover fanfics...)
Technically they do have laser weapons it just their lasers are only useful within a few KM and tend to be anti border/fighters instead of true weapons. I feel that this is missed a bit in ME fanfics but overall the lasers that ME does have are in truth more or less useless for any real thing as they aren't viable anti ship weapons unless you are the Geth and even then they are still terrible weapons. there are definitely no personal scale laser weapons at all, the closest they get is some weird weapon that acts something like a chain lighting weapon which does Technobabble something to the air to get the effect. and that is a Cerberus weapon so they definitely dont have it right now and I am also pretty sure that the thing is more or less useless outside of anti Geth fights and stripping shields.
 
Huh. Just out of curiousity, @mp3.1415player, should your list of examples be taken to indicate that Humans (and/or Thranx) currrently have gamma ray lasers? Because that's Yet Another Thing™ the Citadel/Turians are going to freak out over.

(Have not actually played the games, know a decent amount about them from popcultural osmosis, know about the 'pipe dream beam weapons' thing from a bunch of Mass Effect crossover fanfics...)

Hmm. How to explain this...

Yes.

:D

They have gravity generators capable of producing fields in the range of millions of g, unidirectionally. They can make very large lasers. Obviously, as we can make very large lasers now, and I can't believe that in a century-plus of advancement that wouldn't be something that was researched heavily. And there is basically no theoretical upper limit to how big you can make something like a carbon dioxide laser, the only limit is really an engineering one.

So you combine these two simple inventions. What happens if you fire a laser into a very intense gravity field? That's right, it causes blue shift. What's blue shift? Raising the wavelength and therefore increasing the frequency of the photons, by adding kinetic energy to them.

So, you put a massively powerful IR laser into one end of your gravitational accelerator and you get a massively powerful x-ray laser out the other end. Turn it up a little more and you get a gamma laser. Beam divergence decreases as wavelength decreases, so jacking up your laser from IR to gamma hugely reduces the spot size at any given range, which in turn even more hugely increases the energy density. The shorter wavelength allows more of that energy to be absorbed into the target. And so on.

You end up being able to slice bits off asteroids from a million kilometers away without any effort at all assuming you can actually hit the thing and pump enough energy into the beam. I ran the numbers in the BOLO thread at one point, and the maximum range is pretty amazing.

Of course, if you can run it continuously at that power level, you just raster scan the area you think the ship will be in ;)

And you can't really dodge a laser. Especially as you can't see it except where it interacts with something, and if that something is you, it's way too late. There's also the minor issue that it's a gamma laser so even a glancing hit is going to produce secondary radiation that will irradiate the hell out of anything in the way. That's the biggest issue with it, really. You might have to turn it down to extreme UV to be safe...

And you can steer it with a gravity field too, as well as focus it. Gravitational lensing is an interesting thing.

Yeah, they've got plenty of weapons options that don't need something as fiddly as planium :)

The rest of your post makes sense, but given their technology this is actually wrong. They don't actually have any reason to keep blink torpedoes (whatever their payload) on board ship, they can simply launch them from whatever base they're stored at.

This is true and I misspoke. It's still not really needed, though, except in extreme circumstances.

And if you do resort to missiles, you just spam the entire area with less esoteric ones, as you can blink them directly from the factory right into the battlefield :D Quantity, after all, does have a quality all its own...
 
The ... (google-fu!) planet Klendagon has a massive chasm the game apparently tells you is the result of a mass effect weapon strike.
Yep. ~37 million years ago, a civilization fighting the Reapers fired a planetary-scale mass accelerator at a Reaper near the brown dwarf Mnemosyne. The round hit the Reaper, mission-killed it, and kept going, striking the planet Klendagon afterward. (According to the ME Codex and events of Mass Effect 2.)
 
Alien race giving you trouble? Threaten to steal their planets. They dont believe you? Throw their own moons at them. Huh, looks like you now own the galaxy.
 
Actually there is one Reaper in the Milky Way now that I recall it. The one the Batarians turned into a temple. It is technically dead, but considering how they are made from basically reducing a species to a slurry, then turning the still "aware" species into the circuitry, armor, core, power system, weapons, and so on of a Reaper... Enough of a mind is left to corrupt an Asari matriarch approaching the end of their life (1000 years) by simple touch, and the Prothesis had it worse due to their post-cognitive touch ability.
 
Actually there is one Reaper in the Milky Way now that I recall it. The one the Batarians turned into a temple. It is technically dead, but considering how they are made from basically reducing a species to a slurry, then turning the still "aware" species into the circuitry, armor, core, power system, weapons, and so on of a Reaper... Enough of a mind is left to corrupt an Asari matriarch approaching the end of their life (1000 years) by simple touch, and the Prothesis had it worse due to their post-cognitive touch ability.
you are I think confusing the Leviathan of Dis with Sovereign. Dis is the killed Reaper that is in Batarian hands while Sovereign is the one that does the events of ME1 and it is fully active and powered.
 
Actually there is one Reaper in the Milky Way now that I recall it. The one the Batarians turned into a temple. It is technically dead, but considering how they are made from basically reducing a species to a slurry, then turning the still "aware" species into the circuitry, armor, core, power system, weapons, and so on of a Reaper... Enough of a mind is left to corrupt an Asari matriarch approaching the end of their life (1000 years) by simple touch, and the Prothesis had it worse due to their post-cognitive touch ability.
There are at least three Reapers in the Milky Way at this point.
1) The Leviathan of Dis, which you mentioned in your message. Dated at a billion-plus years old, and still managed to Indoctrinate most of the Batarian Hegemony.
2) The Reaper orbiting Mnemosyne I mentioned earlier. Mission killed 37 million years ago. Still managed to Indoctrinate the Cerberus science team sent to study it.
3) Sovereign. Skulking around waiting to tick all the boxes on his list that says, "Checklist for starting the next Harvest."
 
you are I think confusing the Leviathan of Dis with Sovereign. Dis is the killed Reaper that is in Batarian hands while Sovereign is the one that does the events of ME1 and it is fully active and powered.
But even a dead god can dream... and cause indoctrination.

That's how Cerberus lost their 326th base!

Cerberus: Trying to further the cause of humanity. Everything we build is guaranteed to become lethal, take over the base, and require commander Shepherd to put down!
 
But even a dead god can dream... and cause indoctrination.

That's how Cerberus lost their 326th base!

Cerberus: Trying to further the cause of humanity. Everything we build is guaranteed to become lethal, take over the base, and require commander Shepherd to put down!
To quote Mass Effect: Glorious Shotgun Princess:

"Hey, Liara. What do you think'd happen if Cerberus made a taco cart?"

"The taco cart would kill all the scientists involved and take over the base," Liara responds, and pauses, knitting her brow, "What's a taco cart?"
 
They have gravity generators capable of producing fields in the range of millions of g, unidirectionally.

At that point you have a gravitational sheer cannon, and can skip the laser part entirely, by jellofying the target. If you clip a ship with it, and the dropoff gradient is high enough, part of the ship is still going on it's normal vector, and the part that got touched has just been sheered off so quickly that the remainder of the ship might not even get spun by it. Or you could manage to core and disperse their engine with a dime sized hole, leaving the other parts of the ship mostly intact. If it has a slow dropoff gradient, then the whole ship gets wadded up like a beer can and yeeted off into interstellar space at well past solar escape velocity.

Thankfully, your post-war humanity seems to be kind enough to just teleport hostile and potentially hostile forces to a section of exogalactic space, with a few blinking probe lights around it, and a sign on scaffolding saying 'Time Out Box' in their language. As opposed to.... creative uses of physics and gravity manipulation.

...Do like a Battleplate did in Schlock Mercenary. With fine enough control of gravity manipulation, resonate the entire ship to use it as a speaker to list your demands.
 
Honestly, the WIMP civilizations have something much better to use for explosives - antimatter. Sure, it's not as powerful as planium, but it's a HELL of a lot safer. And considering I'm talking about antimatter, that's saying something!
 
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