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ThatGuyWithIdeas said:
Boars render our cav useless due to: 1. Scaring the horses and 2. Arrows not being effective against them, as indicated by the second quote I've used. That's why I don't want us to focus on cavalry.
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I think that we will have to focus on cavalry sooner or later, after all we have this in cultural advantage. But i understand your point, so i'm okay to focus on infantry for the moment. But i think that light bow cavalry can always be useful, even if they don't kill them, by harassing them it can force the boars riders do follow them and not attack our troops. Especially if they are not disciplined.
 
Kalrotix said:
I think that we will have to focus on cavalry sooner or later, after all we have this in cultural advantage. But i understand your point, so i'm okay to focus on infantry for the moment. But i think that light bow cavalry can always be useful, even if they don't kill them, by harassing them it can force the boars riders do follow them and not attack our troops. Especially if they are not disciplined.
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I am only against focusing on can right now, however, after we deal with the moblins, I'm fine with cav focus.
 
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Kalrotix said:
@Neo-Chan what do you think about change light cavalry for heavy infantry ? And the others who voted for Plan: That's a lot of Moblins ?
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I would have to redraw a large portion of the basic plan i came up with since it relied on having at least a few units capable of hit and run tactics but it is doable, i wouldn't recommend it but it is doable.
 
Also, I would like to ask those who voted for Plan That's a lot of Moblins what do they think about switching sending scouts southeast for scouting the Lakes Hylia region for resources.
 
ThatGuyWithIdeas said:
Boars render our cav useless due to: 1. Scaring the horses and 2. Arrows not being effective against them, as indicated by the second quote I've used. That's why I don't want us to focus on cavalry.
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first of all. It says they scare at closer ranges, not at shooting range. Furthermore, boars have notoriously bad temper and it should be possible to agitate them into rampaging through their own ranks with otherwise harmless arrows. Furthermore, as far as I remember moblins also have boar riders and ground troops, both of which are a fair game.

ThatGuyWithIdeas said:
Also, I would like to ask those who voted for Plan That's a lot of Moblins what do they think about switching sending scouts southeast for scouting the Lakes Hylia region for resources.
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don't really care on that part. ​
 
Neo-Chan said:
I would have to redraw a large portion of the basic plan i came up with since it relied on having at least a few units capable of hit and run tactics but it is doable, i wouldn't recommend it but it is doable.
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i will be honest i'm not sure about this, i think that light cavalry will be very useful on battle but if we are in defensive siege less directly.

ThatGuyWithIdeas said:
Also, I would like to ask those who voted for Plan That's a lot of Moblins what do they think about switching sending scouts southeast for scouting the Lakes Hylia region for resources.
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personaly i'm for send one of them on lake Hylia for resources, but not use more than 2 authority points. We must continue to explore area to find Midna and other kingdoms. If we can manage an alliance it will be very useful.
 
Kalrotix said:
personaly i'm for send one of them on lake Hylia for resources, but not use more than 2 authority points. We must continue to explore area to find Midna and other kingdoms. If we can manage an alliance it will be very useful.
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I only asked what people thought about switching scouting towards the desert for scouting for resources, I did not say that we have to dump too much authority on it.
 
[X] Plan Troops and Resources
Adhoc vote count started by ShadowNic94 on Apr 14, 2018 at 1:15 PM, finished with 85 posts and 9 votes.
  • [X] Plan: That's a lot of Moblins
    -[X] Build Inner kingdom wall - Build a wall between the mountains behind Ordontown in the southwest of your kingdom. This will block the Moblins out from surrounding Ordontown with some troops preventing them from leaving and then ravaging the rest of your kingdom. must choose wall size, small is 5 feet tall, medium is 10 feet, large is 20 feet tall. All have same thickness of 5 feet at base though larger two narrow near top to 4 feet thickness. All walls have battlements. (Medium)
    --[X] Rusl
    -[X] Train Hoplites - Medium defensive infantry armed with a shield and a spear. Knows several defensive formations. (1000)
    --[X] Assign Imperial Authority
    -[X] Train Archers - Ranged light infantry armed with a bow, arrows and shortsword. Good at picking off troops from afar when hidden behind other troops or defenses. (1000)
    -[X] Train Light Cavalry (Bow/Sabre/Shield) {Hit and run / Bowmen} - Train some Light Cavalry. REMEMBER to pick what weapon they use plus whether or not they use a shield! (Level of skill/ability as well as numbers depends on roll.)
    -[X] Claim Malonville region - Claim Malonville and its surrounding lands. This will allow them to be a buffer for your kingdom against enemies from the north and northwest.
    --[X] Malo
    -[X] Attempt to improve population morale - hold a feast, Throw a party, Create a holiday. Do whatever it takes to improve how happy people are and how much they like you.
    --[X] Bo
    -[X] Train scouts - Train scouts to look into the various surrounding areas and try to find SOMEBODY!
    -[X] Research bombs - Try to figure out a way to reproduce the bombs Barnes always used to sell you. (WARNING! dangerous experiments abound.)
    --[X] Shad
    -[X] Research infantry technologies - Try to figure out a way to improve your infantry somehow... someway? (Anti Calvary formations)
    -[X] Faith do nothing
    -[X] Send scouts southeast - You know what Hyrule has never done? Send scouts into the desert and mountains nearby. You should try it, who knows? Maybe you will find something/someone. Perhaps you will even find some resources!
    --[X] Telma
    -[X] Send scouts northeast - Send scouts into Faron Woods to map out the land and maybe find some resources. After all it's not like you will find any people over there... right?
    [X] Plan Troops and Resources
    -[X] Train Heavy Infantry- Spartans
    --[X] Rusl
    --[X] 2 Authority
    -[X]Train Hoplites
    --[X] 1 Authority
    -[X] Train Archers
    -[X] Build Inner kingdom wall (Medium)
    -[X] Claim Malonville region
    --[X] Malo
    -[X] Attempt to improve population morale
    --[X] Mayor Bo
    -[X] Scout the Lakes Hylia region for resources
    --[X] Telma
    --[X] 3 Authority
    -[X] Build a research lab
    --[X] Shad
    -[X] Searching for a Spouse
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Adhoc vote count started by ShadowNic94 on Apr 14, 2018 at 1:38 PM, finished with 88 posts and 9 votes.
  • [X] Plan: That's a lot of Moblins
    -[X] Build Inner kingdom wall - Build a wall between the mountains behind Ordontown in the southwest of your kingdom. This will block the Moblins out from surrounding Ordontown with some troops preventing them from leaving and then ravaging the rest of your kingdom. must choose wall size, small is 5 feet tall, medium is 10 feet, large is 20 feet tall. All have same thickness of 5 feet at base though larger two narrow near top to 4 feet thickness. All walls have battlements. (Medium)
    --[X] Rusl
    -[X] Train Hoplites - Medium defensive infantry armed with a shield and a spear. Knows several defensive formations. (1000)
    --[X] Assign Imperial Authority
    -[X] Train Archers - Ranged light infantry armed with a bow, arrows and shortsword. Good at picking off troops from afar when hidden behind other troops or defenses. (1000)
    -[X] Train Light Cavalry (Bow/Sabre/Shield) {Hit and run / Bowmen} - Train some Light Cavalry. REMEMBER to pick what weapon they use plus whether or not they use a shield! (Level of skill/ability as well as numbers depends on roll.)
    -[X] Claim Malonville region - Claim Malonville and its surrounding lands. This will allow them to be a buffer for your kingdom against enemies from the north and northwest.
    --[X] Malo
    -[X] Attempt to improve population morale - hold a feast, Throw a party, Create a holiday. Do whatever it takes to improve how happy people are and how much they like you.
    --[X] Bo
    -[X] Train scouts - Train scouts to look into the various surrounding areas and try to find SOMEBODY!
    -[X] Research bombs - Try to figure out a way to reproduce the bombs Barnes always used to sell you. (WARNING! dangerous experiments abound.)
    --[X] Shad
    -[X] Research infantry technologies - Try to figure out a way to improve your infantry somehow... someway? (Anti Calvary formations)
    -[X] Faith do nothing
    -[X] Send scouts southeast - You know what Hyrule has never done? Send scouts into the desert and mountains nearby. You should try it, who knows? Maybe you will find something/someone. Perhaps you will even find some resources!
    --[X] Telma
    -[X] Send scouts northeast - Send scouts into Faron Woods to map out the land and maybe find some resources. After all it's not like you will find any people over there... right?
    [X] Plan Troops and Resources
    -[X] Train Heavy Infantry- Spartans
    --[X] Rusl
    --[X] 2 Authority
    -[X]Train Hoplites
    --[X] 1 Authority
    -[X] Train Archers
    -[X] Build Inner kingdom wall (Medium)
    -[X] Claim Malonville region
    --[X] Malo
    -[X] Attempt to improve population morale
    --[X] Mayor Bo
    -[X] Scout the Lakes Hylia region for resources
    --[X] Telma
    --[X] 3 Authority
    -[X] Build a research lab
    --[X] Shad
    -[X] Searching for a Spouse
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ThatGuyWithIdeas said:
I only asked what people thought about switching scouting towards the desert for scouting for resources, I did not say that we have to dump too much authority on it.
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Hmm... Personaly i could fine with it. I would search the desert because it's generaly in this kind of desolate places that you find in reality interesting things but because there are resources at hylia lake i'm fine with it.
 
Kalrotix said:
i will be honest i'm not sure about this, i think that light cavalry will be very useful on battle but if we are in defensive siege less directly.



personaly i'm for send one of them on lake Hylia for resources, but not use more than 2 authority points. We must continue to explore area to find Midna and other kingdoms. If we can manage an alliance it will be very useful.
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Alright then lets poll the other voters.
@Hoshu
@Ixe
@Kalrotix
@Wwind

Do any of you guy's mine if we switch the Calvary units to heavy infantry.
 
i'm for. We could make light cavalry for the next turn, if moblins attack sooner, heavy infantry could be more useful to hold the walls in siege.
 
Alright that's 3 out of 5 so let's go for it. What do you want the heavy units equipped with exactly?
 
Kalrotix said:
Hmm... Personaly i could fine with it. I would search the desert because it's generaly in this kind of desolate places that you find in reality interesting things but because there are resources at hylia lake i'm fine with it.
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ok point in contention here, if you do switch one of the scouting groups I STRONGLY recommend switch the northeast scouting group for the reasons I stated earlier about not meeting Kokiri province until you are stronger...
 
Neo-Chan said:
Alright that's 3 out of 5 so let's go for it. What do you want the heavy units equipped with exactly?
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I gave an idea in the last post

immortals Defense/melee :

Plate armor.
Spear
Large Shield
Axe

san said:
ok point in contention here, if you do switch one of the scouting groups I STRONGLY recommend switch the northeast scouting group for the reasons I stated earlier about not meeting Kokiri province until you are stronger...
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Euh.... Maybe that we should explore for another place or go to search resources in hylian lake.
 
Kalrotix said:
Euh.... Maybe that we should explore for another place or go to search resources in hylian lake.
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mmm yeah, but to the southeast is not just desert... ITS MOUNTAINS! and what are mountains known to contain? ... mineral deposits... ergo.


ok just so people fully understand since I can't see you guys reading the action description.

scouting north: Likely reveal of people, ???.

scouting west: VERY likely reveal of people, ???.

Scouting northeast: likely meeting Kokiri province, wood resource sources, ???.

Scouting southeast: likely find emptiness, can scout for resources after with high likelihood of finding mineral deposits, ???.
 
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Alright guy's i have changed the Calvary to the heavy unit's asked for and also changed the places were scouting since im assuming Midna isn't with the Kokri and if i have to plan for one more giant fuck you coming to smash us along with the moblins and the potential for suddenly Zelda im going to go into a frothing rage.
 
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ok @Neo-Chan I just realized a MASSIVE problem with your plan rendering it invalid.

you need to use more AUTHORITAY!

seriously guys this is like the 4th turn I have mentioned this...

You don't need more actions Neo, you just need to choose which actions you spend multiple authority points on to use your remaining 6 authority.
 
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san said:
ok @Neo-Chan I just realized a MASSIVE problem with your plan rendering it invalid.

you need to use more AUTHORITAY!

seriously guys this is like the 4th turn I have mentioned this...

You don't need more actions Neo, you just need to choose which actions you spend multiple authority points on to use your remaining 6 authority.
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Are you sure i thought we only had 13 Imperial authority to use? And that's exactly how much i used.

[] Plan: That's a lot of Moblins
Actions:
Martial:
-[] Build Inner kingdom wall - Build a wall between the mountains behind Ordontown in the southwest of your kingdom. This will block the Moblins out from surrounding Ordontown with some troops preventing them from leaving and then ravaging the rest of your kingdom. must choose wall size, small is 5 feet tall, medium is 10 feet, large is 20 feet tall. All have same thickness of 5 feet at base though larger two narrow near top to 4 feet thickness. All walls have battlements. (Medium)
--[] Rusl

-[] Train Hoplites - Medium defensive infantry armed with a shield and a spear. Knows several defensive formations. (1000)
--[] Assign Imperial Authority
2

-[] Train Archers - Ranged light infantry armed with a bow, arrows and shortsword. Good at picking off troops from afar when hidden behind other troops or defenses. (1000)
--[] Assign Imperial Authority
4


-[] Train Heavy Infantry (Spear/Ax/Large Shield/ Plate armor) (Spartans) {Defense/melee} - Train some Heavy Infantry. REMEMBER to pick what weapon they use plus whether or not they use a shield! (Level of skill/ability as well as numbers depends on roll.)
--[] Assign Imperial Authority
6

Administration:
-[] Claim Malonville region - Claim Malonville and its surrounding lands. This will allow them to be a buffer for your kingdom against enemies from the north and northwest.
--[] Malo

Diplomacy:
-[] Attempt to improve population morale - hold a feast, Throw a party, Create a holiday. Do whatever it takes to improve how happy people are and how much they like you.
--[] Bo

Intrigue:
-[] Train scouts - Train scouts to look into the various surrounding areas and try to find SOMEBODY!
--[] Assign Imperial Authority
8

-[] Train scouts - Train scouts to look into the various surrounding areas and try to find SOMEBODY!
--[] Assign Imperial Authority
10

-[] Send scouts North - Send scouts into the old Hyrule fields past the new Hylian lakes to see if anything or anyone survived out there and to map out the land. Who knows, maybe someone somehow DID survive... if not your sure you will find some resources out there.
--[] Telma

-[] Send scouts West - Maybe you should send some scouts Northwest of the Moblin lands. This area used to be a province of Hyrule, perhaps they also survived the calamity? If they did they might make staunch allies against the Moblins and decent trading partners.
--[] Assign Imperial Authority
12

Research:
-[] Research bombs - Try to figure out a way to reproduce the bombs Barnes always used to sell you. (WARNING! dangerous experiments abound.)
--[] Shad

-[] Research infantry technologies - Try to figure out a way to improve your infantry somehow... someway? (Anti Calvary formations)
13

Faith:
-[X] Faith do nothing
 
Neo-Chan said:
Are you sure i thought we only had 13 Imperial authority to use? And that's exactly how much i used.

[] Plan: That's a lot of Moblins
Actions:
Martial:
-[] Build Inner kingdom wall - Build a wall between the mountains behind Ordontown in the southwest of your kingdom. This will block the Moblins out from surrounding Ordontown with some troops preventing them from leaving and then ravaging the rest of your kingdom. must choose wall size, small is 5 feet tall, medium is 10 feet, large is 20 feet tall. All have same thickness of 5 feet at base though larger two narrow near top to 4 feet thickness. All walls have battlements. (Medium)
--[] Rusl

-[] Train Hoplites - Medium defensive infantry armed with a shield and a spear. Knows several defensive formations. (1000)
--[] Assign Imperial Authority
2

-[] Train Archers - Ranged light infantry armed with a bow, arrows and shortsword. Good at picking off troops from afar when hidden behind other troops or defenses. (1000)
--[] Assign Imperial Authority
4


-[] Train Heavy Infantry (Spear/Ax/Large Shield/ Plate armor) (Spartans) {Defense/melee} - Train some Heavy Infantry. REMEMBER to pick what weapon they use plus whether or not they use a shield! (Level of skill/ability as well as numbers depends on roll.)
--[] Assign Imperial Authority
6

Administration:
-[] Claim Malonville region - Claim Malonville and its surrounding lands. This will allow them to be a buffer for your kingdom against enemies from the north and northwest.
--[] Malo

Diplomacy:
-[] Attempt to improve population morale - hold a feast, Throw a party, Create a holiday. Do whatever it takes to improve how happy people are and how much they like you.
--[] Bo

Intrigue:
-[] Train scouts - Train scouts to look into the various surrounding areas and try to find SOMEBODY!
--[] Assign Imperial Authority
8

-[] Train scouts - Train scouts to look into the various surrounding areas and try to find SOMEBODY!
--[] Assign Imperial Authority
10

-[] Send scouts North - Send scouts into the old Hyrule fields past the new Hylian lakes to see if anything or anyone survived out there and to map out the land. Who knows, maybe someone somehow DID survive... if not your sure you will find some resources out there.
--[] Telma

-[] Send scouts West - Maybe you should send some scouts Northwest of the Moblin lands. This area used to be a province of Hyrule, perhaps they also survived the calamity? If they did they might make staunch allies against the Moblins and decent trading partners.
--[] Assign Imperial Authority
12

Research:
-[] Research bombs - Try to figure out a way to reproduce the bombs Barnes always used to sell you. (WARNING! dangerous experiments abound.)
--[] Shad

-[] Research infantry technologies - Try to figure out a way to improve your infantry somehow... someway? (Anti Calvary formations)
13

Faith:
-[X] Faith do nothing
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ok ya.... this corrects it now, but you did not add the assign imperial authority actions to unit training beyond the hoplites originally and I can't remember seeing any others.

and by the way, to prevent confusion please add -[] assign 2 imperial authority

rather than -[] assign imperial authority

because that just makes it sound like its a regular action. also you can add more than 1 extra if you want.
 
hey just so you all know updates will be a bit slow for now, busy IRL currently. no worries though should only last a couple weeks.
Adhoc vote count started by san on Apr 16, 2018 at 10:38 PM, finished with 103 posts and 11 votes.
  • [X] Plan: That's a lot of Moblins
    -[X] Build Inner kingdom wall - Build a wall between the mountains behind Ordontown in the southwest of your kingdom. This will block the Moblins out from surrounding Ordontown with some troops preventing them from leaving and then ravaging the rest of your kingdom. must choose wall size, small is 5 feet tall, medium is 10 feet, large is 20 feet tall. All have same thickness of 5 feet at base though larger two narrow near top to 4 feet thickness. All walls have battlements. (Medium)
    --[X] Rusl
    -[X] Train Hoplites - Medium defensive infantry armed with a shield and a spear. Knows several defensive formations. (1000)
    --[X] Assign 2 Imperial Authority
    -[X] Train Archers - Ranged light infantry armed with a bow, arrows and shortsword. Good at picking off troops from afar when hidden behind other troops or defenses. (1000)
    -[X] Train Heavy Infantry (Spear/Ax/Large Shield/ Plate armor) (Spartans) {Defense/melee} - Train some Heavy Infantry. REMEMBER to pick what weapon they use plus whether or not they use a shield! (Level of skill/ability as well as numbers depends on roll.)
    -[X] Claim Malonville region - Claim Malonville and its surrounding lands. This will allow them to be a buffer for your kingdom against enemies from the north and northwest.
    --[X] Malo
    -[X] Attempt to improve population morale - hold a feast, Throw a party, Create a holiday. Do whatever it takes to improve how happy people are and how much they like you.
    --[X] Bo
    -[X] Train scouts - Train scouts to look into the various surrounding areas and try to find SOMEBODY!
    -[X] Send scouts North - Send scouts into the old Hyrule fields past the new Hylian lakes to see if anything or anyone survived out there and to map out the land. Who knows, maybe someone somehow DID survive... if not your sure you will find some resources out there.
    --[X] Telma
    -[X] Send scouts West - Maybe you should send some scouts Northwest of the Moblin lands. This area used to be a province of Hyrule, perhaps they also survived the calamity? If they did they might make staunch allies against the Moblins and decent trading partners.
    -[X] Research bombs - Try to figure out a way to reproduce the bombs Barnes always used to sell you. (WARNING! dangerous experiments abound.)
    --[X] Shad
    -[X] Research infantry technologies - Try to figure out a way to improve your infantry somehow... someway? (Anti Calvary formations)
    -[X] Faith do nothing
    [X] Plan Troops and Resources
    -[X] Train Heavy Infantry- Spartans
    --[X] Rusl
    --[X] 2 Authority
    -[X]Train Hoplites
    --[X] 1 Authority
    -[X] Train Archers
    -[X] Build Inner kingdom wall (Medium)
    -[X] Claim Malonville region
    --[X] Malo
    -[X] Attempt to improve population morale
    --[X] Mayor Bo
    -[X] Scout the Lakes Hylia region for resources
    --[X] Telma
    --[X] 3 Authority
    -[X] Build a research lab
    --[X] Shad
    -[X] Searching for a Spouse
    [X] Plan: I am Turtle, hear my mighty roar
    -[X] Faith do nothing
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