As far as 'words spent' goes... Its a bit unavoidable that I'm going to be running into this problem (excess events) a lot. Turns out running the entire Hoenn Championship is going to take a Long While, and apparently I can't timeskip for shit!
TL;DR Fanfics usually take a lot more words to reach certain story beats than regular novels, and Hyphen is an extremely gratuitous example of such.
I wouldn't all it a problem, per se, nor do I think it's something specific to fanfic, so much as it's a mater of genre and format.

Hyphen is serial fiction, which tends to lend itself to longer works. More than that, it's largely a slice of life story, as much as it pretends to be a shonen adventure, which can also encourage a relatively slow pace.

Put another way, word count is only a secondary metric; "stuff getting done" should be the primary one. The "stuff" in this story is largely the interactions between May and Astra, with the occasional battle being more of a fun diversion than the main point. Seeing how Astra approaches catching pokemon is interesting, it's an issue that strikes near the heart of a Pokemon becoming a Trainer, so it deserves to be treated with respect and given it's space in the story. Similarly, May represents a much more standard view of training and her reactions help to give us a baseline for how different, or similar, Astra's conclusions are to regular trainers. So, while the Loatad scene could have been skipped, it was very much a good scene to keep. By the same token, as much as Astra's reactions to the movie were important and showed us her character, the specifics of a human made movie really aren't. Fortunately, that's exactly how you laid things out: we saw Astra's reactions in detail, but the movie was only glossed over.

I suspect, as you progress, you'll be able to start skipping through more as you encounter scenes that are substantially similar to ones you've already gone over. For example, you no longer really need a scene with Astra wondering at a standard pokemart, because she's already done that and we've seen how she reacted, so you can just gloss over it the next time she needs to buy some potions and pokebals, unless there's something new to show off. Sure, there probably are a few scenes you could trim or skip entirely, but what would that get you? Like I already said, Hyphen's largely slice of life and focused on the Interactions of Astra and May, so if you're skipping their interactions, what are your rushing towards?

If it helps to put things in perspective, The Fate route in the Fate/Stay Night VN supposedly consists of 299,080 set over the course of 15 days. To be clear, that doesn't include the prologue or the other two routes. At the same time a lot happens over the course of those 15 days, so the word count make sense. It only becomes a problem when too many words get spent on a single event, lots of words get spent on unimportant (to the story that's being told) events, or on repetitive events. None of those have really been an issue for you, so far.

That said, if you really want to make in universe time move faster, to better match the word and event count, then I think the easiest way to do it would be to increase the distance between towns, so they spend more time traveling and the events you already have planned are spread out over more time in universe, without there needing to be a proportionally larger number of interesting events to cover. Uneventful travel is very easy to gloss over.


Also, as far as the 'under the covers' thing goes, I could point out that Astra never took her hat off, and that May is both somewhat unobservent and also more focused on revving up the long disused 'comfort' section of her brain to notice, but it does seem like a bit of an afterthought, doesn't it? Eh. I should get back to writing 22.

I was under the impression that Astra's hat had something of a wide circular brim. That might be fine while Astra's face down in her pillow, but it's going to push the hat off as soon as she presses up against May, either because the side of the bed or may pressing against the aforementioned brim. This would be made worse by her horn(s) changing position, which should have made the hat's fit much more precarious. It might not have come all the way off, but at the very least I'd expect it to be extremely skewed, with a large gap between it and the top of her head.

There's also the issue of the different Astra's general morphology. She may be humanoid, but that's not the same as human and we're pretty good at noticing those kinds of "similar, but not quite right" differences at an instinctual level. Her cloak can reasonably do a good job of hiding the discrepancies most of the time, but it's not going to do much when the two are hugging each other.

May might not consciously pick up on it right away, or she may intentionally ignore it until her friend is no longer having an emotional breakdown and she can settle her own nerves, but it's definitely something she should realize before too long. Like I said before. It's a short fuse, not a "deal with it, immediately, now or your shatter suspension of disbelief!" sort of thing. Mays inexperience with delicate social interaction definitely helps to give you some leeway here, as I can very easily see her trying to repress and avoid the topic as long as possible. Though, going that route should definitely color her reaction whenever the reveal does get made, since it wouldn't truly be a surprise and she would have been processing it on some level for the duration.
 
I wouldn't all it a problem, per se, nor do I think it's something specific to fanfic, so much as it's a mater of genre and format.

Hyphen is serial fiction, which tends to lend itself to longer works. More than that, it's largely a slice of life story, as much as it pretends to be a shonen adventure, which can also encourage a relatively slow pace.

Put another way, word count is only a secondary metric; "stuff getting done" should be the primary one. The "stuff" in this story is largely the interactions between May and Astra, with the occasional battle being more of a fun diversion than the main point. Seeing how Astra approaches catching pokemon is interesting, it's an issue that strikes near the heart of a Pokemon becoming a Trainer, so it deserves to be treated with respect and given it's space in the story. Similarly, May represents a much more standard view of training and her reactions help to give us a baseline for how different, or similar, Astra's conclusions are to regular trainers. So, while the Loatad scene could have been skipped, it was very much a good scene to keep. By the same token, as much as Astra's reactions to the movie were important and showed us her character, the specifics of a human made movie really aren't. Fortunately, that's exactly how you laid things out: we saw Astra's reactions in detail, but the movie was only glossed over.

I suspect, as you progress, you'll be able to start skipping through more as you encounter scenes that are substantially similar to ones you've already gone over. For example, you no longer really need a scene with Astra wondering at a standard pokemart, because she's already done that and we've seen how she reacted, so you can just gloss over it the next time she needs to buy some potions and pokebals, unless there's something new to show off. Sure, there probably are a few scenes you could trim or skip entirely, but what would that get you? Like I already said, Hyphen's largely slice of life and focused on the Interactions of Astra and May, so if you're skipping their interactions, what are your rushing towards?

If it helps to put things in perspective, The Fate route in the Fate/Stay Night VN supposedly consists of 299,080 set over the course of 15 days. To be clear, that doesn't include the prologue or the other two routes. At the same time a lot happens over the course of those 15 days, so the word count make sense. It only becomes a problem when too many words get spent on a single event, lots of words get spent on unimportant (to the story that's being told) events, or on repetitive events. None of those have really been an issue for you, so far.

That said, if you really want to make in universe time move faster, to better match the word and event count, then I think the easiest way to do it would be to increase the distance between towns, so they spend more time traveling and the events you already have planned are spread out over more time in universe, without there needing to be a proportionally larger number of interesting events to cover. Uneventful travel is very easy to gloss over.




I was under the impression that Astra's hat had something of a wide circular brim. That might be fine while Astra's face down in her pillow, but it's going to push the hat off as soon as she presses up against May, either because the side of the bed or may pressing against the aforementioned brim. This would be made worse by her horn(s) changing position, which should have made the hat's fit much more precarious. It might not have come all the way off, but at the very least I'd expect it to be extremely skewed, with a large gap between it and the top of her head.

There's also the issue of the different Astra's general morphology. She may be humanoid, but that's not the same as human and we're pretty good at noticing those kinds of "similar, but not quite right" differences at an instinctual level. Her cloak can reasonably do a good job of hiding the discrepancies most of the time, but it's not going to do much when the two are hugging each other.

May might not consciously pick up on it right away, or she may intentionally ignore it until her friend is no longer having an emotional breakdown and she can settle her own nerves, but it's definitely something she should realize before too long. Like I said before. It's a short fuse, not a "deal with it, immediately, now or your shatter suspension of disbelief!" sort of thing. Mays inexperience with delicate social interaction definitely helps to give you some leeway here, as I can very easily see her trying to repress and avoid the topic as long as possible. Though, going that route should definitely color her reaction whenever the reveal does get made, since it wouldn't truly be a surprise and she would have been processing it on some level for the duration.


Hm. Yes I think I know what sort of scene I need to do now. (Re: May getting suspicious)

Thank you for the idea.
 
Honestly, most people downplay how many non-mon explainations there are for Astra, how wierd the world is in general, how unusual the idea of a never seen pokemon becoming a trainer is and how well Astra's disguise works.

Most of it is just that we already "know the answer" and are as a result picking up what the characters see "wierd stuff" to be "Obvious that Astra is a Ralts" because we know that Astra is a Ralts.
 
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Honestly, most people downplay how many non-mon explainations there are for Astra, how wierd the worldis in general, how unusual the idea of a never seen pokemon becoming a trainer is and how well Astra's disguise works.

Most of it is just that we already "know the answer" and are as a result picking up what the characters see "wierd stuff" to be "Obvious that Astra is a Ralts" because we know that Astra is a Ralts.
This is very true. I mean, we have, at a sample of pokemon universe humanity: Distinct occupational phenotypes (the classic nurse joy/officer jenny but also things like how all trainers you meet are given an occupation title before their name, which matches with the character model used), straight up psychic shenanigans (it's not like those psychic gym trainers that were mentioned in the story came from nowhere), and at least a few examples of exotic hair colors on otherwise normal people. It's not too implausible that there's just a "forest hermit" phenotype, which just happens to be albino and green-haired. Alternatively, that could just be random attribute development, as Albinism is a known possibility, while May has personal experience confirming that people can just, you know, have green hair. The behavioral stuff is honestly the only unavoidably really pokemon-y bit if taken as a trend, but it's almost certainly drowned out in the sea of "hey, maybe Astra's just being weird again." Most people don't comb through their friends' behavior and attempt to psychoanalyze them - at least not without good cause.
 
Words cannot express my level of 'giddy'. I'm acually giggling like a loon.

Very heartwarming! AAAA shit I dont even have words



Thank you so much!

Edit: I find it hilarious how both omakes so far are about May discovering that Astra is a pokemon early. Makes me ponder if I've pushed the 'reveal' back too far, but it's only been like. A week in story time? Only 8 chapters since they met. It just feels very long since my update rate is so shit.

I am still metaphorically screaming about the above. Action replay my dude I love you.
You're welcome, yo, I don't do things by half, and I put a lot of effort into it (it's been in the works for about two days). I was actually gonna write one of the omakes I suggested in my earlier post, but as I looked back through the chapters to get a better grasp of characterization (and to figure out what Brendan and Birch already know) I realized that May actually already had a metric fuckton of evidence, if only she noticed it. Then my muse went "she already knoooows but she isn't ready but she's a good person" and I went "ok" and wrote it.

I did my best to convey that May's worldview isn't really ready for the idea of being best friends with a Pokemon who is fully on-par with a human in terms of sapience, but she's really genuinely trying to not treat Astra any differently despite her existing understanding of what Pokemon are.

One of the things she's not ready to think about is the question of, if Astra is sapient... how many other pokemon are sapient, but she just doesn't know because they don't have telepathy to tell her? Are all the Magikarp they cook sapient? Well, probably not on the Magikarp because the telepaths wouldn't eat them at home if they were, or at least you'd hope they don't, but the general point stands.

This is very true. I mean, we have, at a sample of pokemon universe humanity: Distinct occupational phenotypes (the classic nurse joy/officer jenny but also things like how all trainers you meet are given an occupation title before their name, which matches with the character model used), straight up psychic shenanigans (it's not like those psychic gym trainers that were mentioned in the story came from nowhere), and at least a few examples of exotic hair colors on otherwise normal people. It's not too implausible that there's just a "forest hermit" phenotype, which just happens to be albino and green-haired. Alternatively, that could just be random attribute development, as Albinism is a known possibility, while May has personal experience confirming that people can just, you know, have green hair. The behavioral stuff is honestly the only unavoidably really pokemon-y bit if taken as a trend, but it's almost certainly drowned out in the sea of "hey, maybe Astra's just being weird again." Most people don't comb through their friends' behavior and attempt to psychoanalyze them - at least not without good cause.
Those phenotype things aren't a thing in Hyphen; Nurse Joy is explicitly a wig and uniform, and Officer Jenny is presumably the same. All the other 'trainer classes' are just abstractions used by the games to compensate for the fact that there's no fucking way they're gonna model each and every single person individually and uniquely, so they generalized.

Re: weirdness: It's not that being an albino psychic with green hair who wears a full-body cloak is suspicious. Being an albino psychic with green hair who wears a full-body cloak while there's a new rare humanish-looking Pokemon running around that is also albino with green hair and that the former doesn't react well to stories about the latter, that's what's suspicious. Being a psychic prodigy does explain like half of Astra's weirdness away, but there's a number of pieces that still don't quite fit with that explanation alone. Make the connection between the rare pokemon and the human who was disturbed by the story thereof, and much of the rest falls into place, but if May isn't really aware that that could be a thing that could happen, then she's probably gonna take a while to catch on.

I mean, May obviously isn't really trying very hard to put the pieces together (someone who is insatiably curious or kinda paranoid might, like me IRL) and in the omake the only reason she made the connection at all was because she remembered that there does exist a Pokemon somewhere in the world that might be able to pretend it was human.
 
This is very true. I mean, we have, at a sample of pokemon universe humanity: Distinct occupational phenotypes (the classic nurse joy/officer jenny but also things like how all trainers you meet are given an occupation title before their name, which matches with the character model used), straight up psychic shenanigans (it's not like those psychic gym trainers that were mentioned in the story came from nowhere), and at least a few examples of exotic hair colors on otherwise normal people. It's not too implausible that there's just a "forest hermit" phenotype, which just happens to be albino and green-haired. Alternatively, that could just be random attribute development, as Albinism is a known possibility, while May has personal experience confirming that people can just, you know, have green hair. The behavioral stuff is honestly the only unavoidably really pokemon-y bit if taken as a trend, but it's almost certainly drowned out in the sea of "hey, maybe Astra's just being weird again." Most people don't comb through their friends' behavior and attempt to psychoanalyze them - at least not without good cause.
I remember, if faintly, a few different pokemon episode with a caveman/wildman who where significently less adjusted to modern living than Astra is and acting a lot more like a pokemon than she is.

Now, they are not common by any means or anything but if you where to line up the "Kangaskan Kid" with Astra and where to ask me which was the pokemon I would not be pointing at Astra even with her behaviours exhibited.

Honestly, lost wild youth who was expiramented on and traumatized by unknown evil team would explain essentially everything much simpler than "Pokemon City mindpower pokemon wanting to become a trainer" for the inhabitents of hoenn.
 
I remember, if faintly, a few different pokemon episode with a caveman/wildman who where significently less adjusted to modern living than Astra is and acting a lot more like a pokemon than she is.

Now, they are not common by any means or anything but if you where to line up the "Kangaskan Kid" with Astra and where to ask me which was the pokemon I would not be pointing at Astra even with her behaviours exhibited.

Honestly, lost wild youth who was expiramented on and traumatized by unknown evil team would explain essentially everything much simpler than "Pokemon City mindpower pokemon wanting to become a trainer" for the inhabitents of hoenn.
That still wouldn't explain the "suddenly grew several inches in a ridiculously short timespan and at the same time her collision was suddenly larger than and didn't match her visible body" part. (though the latter thing, backed up by the former, is an essential clue to realizing there's some form of perception manipulation going on, and if the latter was overlooked it would be pretty hard to put anything together, hence Not-Oblivious!May needing to be not oblivious.)
 
You're welcome, yo, I don't do things by half, and I put a lot of effort into it (it's been in the works for about two days). I was actually gonna write one of the omakes I suggested in my earlier post, but as I looked back through the chapters to get a better grasp of characterization (and to figure out what Brendan and Birch already know) I realized that May actually already had a metric fuckton of evidence, if only she noticed it. Then my muse went "she already knoooows but she isn't ready but she's a good person" and I went "ok" and wrote it.

I did my best to convey that May's worldview isn't really ready for the idea of being best friends with a Pokemon who is fully on-par with a human in terms of sapience, but she's really genuinely trying to not treat Astra any differently despite her existing understanding of what Pokemon are.

One of the things she's not ready to think about is the question of, if Astra is sapient... how many other pokemon are sapient, but she just doesn't know because they don't have telepathy to tell her? Are all the Magikarp they cook sapient? Well, probably not on the Magikarp because the telepaths wouldn't eat them at home if they were, or at least you'd hope they don't, but the general point stands.


Those phenotype things aren't a thing in Hyphen; Nurse Joy is explicitly a wig and uniform, and Officer Jenny is presumably the same. All the other 'trainer classes' are just abstractions used by the games to compensate for the fact that there's no fucking way they're gonna model each and every single person individually and uniquely, so they generalized.

Re: weirdness: It's not that being an albino psychic with green hair who wears a full-body cloak is suspicious. Being an albino psychic with green hair who wears a full-body cloak while there's a new rare humanish-looking Pokemon running around that is also albino with green hair and that the former doesn't react well to stories about the latter, that's what's suspicious. Being a psychic prodigy does explain like half of Astra's weirdness away, but there's a number of pieces that still don't quite fit with that explanation alone. Make the connection between the rare pokemon and the human who was disturbed by the story thereof, and much of the rest falls into place, but if May isn't really aware that that could be a thing that could happen, then she's probably gonna take a while to catch on.

I mean, May obviously isn't really trying very hard to put the pieces together (someone who is insatiably curious or kinda paranoid might, like me IRL) and in the omake the only reason she made the connection at all was because she remembered that there does exist a Pokemon somewhere in the world that might be able to pretend it was human.
It's definitely possible for your omake's train of thought to occur, and it's pretty likely to once the first bits happen. I suspect it'd take a bit of prompting to start remembering that at all, since without reason to think about pokemon pretending to be human I doubt may at least would happen upon that concern. I'd expect that it'd take a more material trigger to set such thoughts in motion, like Astra doing something specifically pokemon-y that can't be easily explained away as another aspect of Astra having a weird background.

The evolution thing is definitely an opportunity for that (growing an inch a day and discrepancies in physical position vs visible position are both pretty un-subtle) but it definitely relies on extensive physical contact, which can be avoided if Astra's careful. She probably won't be, but that's another matter.
 
As far as 'words spent' goes... Its a bit unavoidable that I'm going to be running into this problem (excess events) a lot. Turns out running the entire Hoenn Championship is going to take a Long While, and apparently I can't timeskip for shit!
As long as the plot is progressing adequately there is no such thing as spending too many words for too little time (I read Taylor Varga for quite a while, two months took over a million words, and a single day could take up 2-4 20k word chapters, I have a long attention span).

So far I think this has been pretty well-paced. I haven't felt like things were dragging on, and while some of the scenes didn't necessarily progress the plot they did showcase good character interactions, which is very good as long as it doesn't overwhelm the plot. So don't worry too much about dragging things out, it'll take a lot to make me quit reading a story that is as interesting as yours.
 
I'd expect May at least to need at least a while more to figure it out, if only because why would she be thinking that hard about Astra's appearance and conduct? Sure, there's a pretty strong trail of evidence, but without reason to look or any experience to make the hints obvious, there's no reason for May to have started following it.
Imagine spot:

May and Astra meet Brendan in What'sitcalled, Slateport City, sit down and catch up. At some point, Brendan figures out Astra is a pokemon.
May goes: "Ha, no way, we've spent monthes together, I would have noticed".
Astra: "Actually, I am".
May: "What! How didn't I see it?"
Brendan: "You're strongly focused on becoming a champion? Your grudge against your father was clouding your judgement? I have outsider perspective?"

But that's kind of a problem when I think every moment could be expanded into a pretty neat scene. I resisted this urge with Astra watching Not!Treasure Planet and I will have to resist it more in the future.
I would say, between the... Where are they now, Rustboro? Most of the road between Rustboro and, uh, Slateport, can be easily glossed over. After all, there's only so much scenic forest landscapes and/or enchanting sea horisons that can fit into a text format.

Are all the Magikarp they cook sapient? Well, probably not on the Magikarp because the telepaths wouldn't eat them at home if they were, or at least you'd hope they don't, but the general point stands.
Fairy-type-trainer-chan: "I love grilling freshly-caught Magicarp on a riverbank"

Hex-Maniac-chan: "The wails of anguish are the best spice"

Bystanders: "Aw, creepy-cute, gap moe!"
 
One Month Inactivity Progress Report: The new World of Warcraft patch has absolutely consumed my every waking hour. This has reduced my speed from the frenetic hastiness of post-update to a near crawl.

I'm up to 6.5k words, and am beginning the third and final scene. Quality concern could be an issue, because most of my mental power is being spent on mythic raiding and high level dungeoning than thinking about or actually proceeding with writing. Oh well.

I have just discovered literally two minutes ago that there's a trainer on route 116 that owns a Ralts.
He will be convieniently dissapeared retro-butterflied into not having one, and in fact probably will not appear at all.
Luckily he's behind a small bush and nobody knows Cut. Haha! Ha.

 
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One Month Inactivity Progress Report: The new World of Warcraft patch has absolutely consumed my every waking hour. This has reduced my speed from the frenetic hastiness of post-update to a near crawl.

I'm up to 6.5k words, and am beginning the third and final scene. Quality concern could be an issue, because most of my mental power is being spent on mythic raiding and high level dungeoning than thinking about or actually proceeding with writing. Oh well.

I have just discovered literally two minutes ago that there's a trainer on route 116 that owns a Ralts.
He will be convieniently dissapeared retro-butterflied into not having one.
Luckily he's behind a small bush and nobody knows Cut. Haha! Ha.

Plot Point? I mean, Astra is a grown Kirlia at this point, practically an adult by village standards, and Ralts can be very smol, so...?
 
Plot Point? I mean, Astra is a grown Kirlia at this point, practically an adult by village standards, and Ralts can be very smol, so...?

To be frank it just doesn't make sense for Schoolboy Jerry to randomly own a regionally 'extinct' pokemon in this continuity (Weird tricks like being from out of the country aside). That particular issue is not going to happen in the middle of this already packed chapter. I just found it an amusing mental roadblock for my tired 1:30 AM brain.
 
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To be frank it just doesn't make sense for Schoolboy Jerry to randomly own a regionally 'extinct' pokemon in this continuity (Weird tricks like being from out of the country aside). That particular issue is not going to happen in the middle of this already packed chapter. I just found it an amusing mental roadblock for my tired 1:30 AM brain.
Of note, virtually every trainer in Mossdeep gym has one as well aside from Fritz and Samantha, and Psychic William also has one in Mt. Pyre.
 
Obviously, they went on a Psychic Field Trip to go get their own because they wanted one so bad :V
Actually, that makes sense. If Ralts is more common in other regions, I don't see why trainers can't get them from there. And if wild Ralts were more common in Hoenn's past, I'd expect there to be a decent number raised in captivity for many generations.

Some regional Pokemon can't be found in the wild, and not just because they're exclusive to a different game version or need to be evolved or anything like that. I'm talking about Eevee in Kanto, Togepi in Johto, Beldum in Hoenn, and Riolu in Sinnoh. Ralts can be like those.
 
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Three month inactivity Progress report:

Normally by this time I'd have the chapter ready to be posted! It's been a thing. Three months = chapter! Not this time.

This one is kicking my ass something fierce, and I can't seem to slip into that manic writing phase that lets me burn through the last quarter this time. So it's gonna take a bit yet.

On the other end, I've written way too much. ABOUT 13K.

I mean I'm at the tail end, theoretically, but what fucking lunacy is this. Dear god. When I send it off to the betas it's gonna get an extra 4k in edit interest, I just know it.

Anyway, that's all. Just wanted to let ya'll know I'm still alive.

Weh~
 
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I'm glad to hear you're on the tail end of writing - both because of the rather mercenary "closer to done means closer to me getting access" and because it means you'll be at least temporarily done with writing. You sound like it's harsh going for you, and even the most easy-to-write work can be draining if worked on for too long, from what I've seen.
 
Three month inactivity Progress report:

Normally by this time I'd have the chapter ready to be posted! It's been a thing. Three months = chapter! Not this time.

This one is kicking my ass something fierce, and I can't seem to slip into that manic writing phase that lets me burn through the last quarter this time. So it's gonna take a bit yet.

On the other end, I've written way too much. ABOUT 13K.

I mean i'm at the tail end, theoretically, but what fucking lunacy is this. Dear god. When I send it off to the betas it's gonna get an extra 4k in edit interest, I just know it.

Anyway, that's all. Just wanted to let ya'll know I'm still alive.

Weh~
More Astra is always good. I was considering trying to write that omake series i mentioned a while back in which instead of Anime!May and Max, Ash and Brock end up with Hyphen!May and Astra as travelling companions. Unfortunately or perhaps fortunately I still have a day job, 8 hour grind, and I have so much shit that I'm trying to get done in my vastly diminished free time that I'm really not getting anywhere on any of it.

Good that ur still alive tho
 
Congratulations on your Death Note-esque writing montage! I look forward to reading what you have in store for us, especially now that I have nothing better to do.

It's less a montage and more me going, at around one or two in the morning every day for the past two months, "Oh shit I havent written anything today let's get a sentence to a paragraph down, or maybe just some minor editing."

Which has somehow balooned into this absolute behemoth of a thing. As one does.
 
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