How would a "realistic" Superman: Red Son play out?

You are so dumb.
The only communists in most of the states are Stalinist Stooges.
Will Superman brutalize eastern europe to maintain the oppressive dictatorships to?
There are other types of communists though. If superman comes in in 53' then he can replace the leaders with more popular communists, something which again, worked IRL to stop dissent, and then transition them out of Soviet control, and if he comes in in WW2 then he can put native movements in charge of countries that have them, and generally just not do any oppression in the first place.
 
There are other types of communists though. If superman comes in in 53' then he can replace the leaders with more popular communists, something which again, worked IRL to stop dissent, and then transition them out of Soviet control, and if he comes in in WW2 then he can put native movements in charge of countries that have them, and generally just not do any oppression in the first place.
First case would work until revolution happens like otl hungary.
Second case in some states there aren't communist to put in charge and in others they would immediately be crushed by popular revolt.
Creating puppet states does not work if you don't want to oppress people.
 
There are other types of communists though. If superman comes in in 53' then he can replace the leaders with more popular communists, something which again, worked IRL to stop dissent, and then transition them out of Soviet control, and if he comes in in WW2 then he can put native movements in charge of countries that have them, and generally just not do any oppression in the first place.
The issue is the stalinist ones kinda ruined it for the rest.
 
To make that work he would need the fortress,waiting for computers to develop naturally would take far to long for someone who wants to transition to communism and isn't using excuses.
The Soviets were working on a decentralized, hierarchical computer network back in the 60s but it was cancelled by Khrushchev
 
First case would work until revolution happens like otl hungary.
Second case in some states there aren't communist to put in charge and in others they would immediately be crushed by popular revolt.
Creating puppet states does not work if you don't want to oppress people.
The whole idea was to end their puppet state nature for an equal partnership. For the first, accept the popular uprising as the new government as long as it isn't capitalist, and for the second do the same thing.
 
For the first, accept the popular uprising as the new government as long as it isn't capitalist, and for the second do the same thing.
It would be capitalist nationalist almost everywhere in the first case and straight big tent nationalists in the second.
Agan you can't make puppet state without violence and oppression.
 
It changes a lot, since Stalin wouldn't be able to purge the native communist movements in the areas they take over
It doesn't matter,if he puts them in charge they either get toppled by revolt or follow the public will and step down or follow reasonable nationalist policy.
Letting the states have free elections and offering help would be the best idea.
 
It doesn't matter,if he puts them in charge they either get toppled by revolt or follow the public will and step down or follow reasonable nationalist policy.
Letting the states have free elections and offering help would be the best idea.
But then they aren't communist, and Superman's goal is worldwide communism
 
But then they aren't communist, and Superman's goal is worldwide communism
Exactly.
The way to do that is to avoid being imperialist and honestly trying to achieve communism.
And according to Marx and historical precedent after he does it worldwide communist revolution will happen.
Running an oppressive empire will paint him as a hypocrite like most socialist in the USSR.
 
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I'll do my best for both communism and democracy, but if I have to choose I'll take communism
Bad for you Superman would not do that.
You can't hear the cries of the people and order them to be brutalized while not being Stalin.
Again for the 3 time if you want Stalin with Superman's powers make that a thread.
 
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Bad for you Superman would not do that.
You can't hear the cries of the people and order them to be brutalized while not being Stalin.
Again for the 3 time if you want Stalin with Superman's powers make that a thread.
Your acting like any authoritarian muesures at all, or any undemocratic mueseres taken to preserve the revolution, inherently turn you into Stalin when they really don't

This is a superman raised to be a revolutionary, raised to lead the Union and establish the ultimate victory of global communism. He's not going to abandon that just because the working classes in Poland haven't achieved class conscious yet.
 
Your acting like any authoritarian muesures at all, or any undemocratic mueseres taken to preserve the revolution, inherently turn you into Stalin when they really don't
So you approve mass murder and mass oppression as ways of establishing class consciousness(whatever that means to you).
Socialism built on that has an undeniable history also.
 
This is a superman raised to be a revolutionary, raised to lead the Union and establish the ultimate victory of global communism.
Let me try that to.
This is a Superman whose parents were starved to death,executed,resettled,send to Siberia or 100 other things that the USSR did.
Edit:Almost forgot Stalinist terror that was vizibil even without super hearing and vision.
 
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Let me try that to.
This is a Superman whose parents were starved to death,executed,resettled,send to Siberia or 100 other things that the USSR did.
Edit:Almost forgot Stalinist terror that was vizibil even without super hearing and vision.
If were sticking with the Red Sun upbringing then he was raised by devotedly communist Ukrainein farmers on a communal farm, until he decided that he couldn't sit and watch while bad things happened, he had to help the people, and the international proletariat. He then went to Moscow and presented himself to Stalin, becoming Stalin's protege.
 
If were sticking with the Red Sun upbringing then he was raised by devotedly communist Ukrainein farmers on a communal farm, until he decided that he couldn't sit and watch while bad things happened, he had to help the people, and the international proletariat. He then went to Moscow and presented himself to Stalin, becoming Stalin's protege.

Okay, but this is a a "realistic" Superman Red Son-and we all know what happened to Ukrainian farmers in real life under Stalin.
 
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