IIRC WoG is that Mineta passed by disabling the robots. Considering that the test was already skewed for people with quirks that would work best against robots allowing for quirks that could also just disable them seems like it would make more sense.
Plus when you think about it they probably should've gotten bonus points for capturing robots seeing as the whole job of a hero is to arrest criminals not kill them
Your phone buzzes with that annoying sound you hate too much. At least you do when your body just wants to rest.
Another buzz, the vibration feels like an earthquake and the sound like thunder in your ear.
You groan, moving your body slowly to look for your phone. You don't even bother to open your eyes, it's still dark outside, too early to bother. It takes you a moment but your hand finally touches the familiar rectangular form. Once you unlock the screen, the light blinds you and hurts your eyes.
You turn off your screen and look through the window. It's still dark outside but you can kind of see a bit of light on the horizon, the sun starting to rise slowly.
The temptation to go back to sleep is strong… But you promised your friend to train with him. You still groan as you leave the warmth of your bed, feeling the heaviness of the world around you. You just want to sleep.
You focus on getting ready to avoid those thoughts. It's easy because your brain is still unable to do more than one thing at the same time. You even manage to get ready just in time. When he sends you another message, you are already at the door.
When you open you see your friend's big smile with dawn as his backdrop. You can feel the humidity in the air from the night and the lingering cold that the sun had no chance to get rid off yet. Your face was probably a bit grumpy, but seeing his earnest energy and excitement makes you smile too.
Time to train like you never trained before.
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Physical roll. DC 50: 32 (12 + 20)
Failure
"How… How did I do?" You asked from the ground, your breath heavy and tired, your body covered in sweat making you feel a bit cold and hot at the same time.
"You did… your best, and that's the important part!" Eijiro answered with a forced smile. He was standing next to you on that empty park you both were using to train. Those words didn't help when your power was telling you that he felt mostly pity.
With a groan, you sat up, looking around. Luckily for you, it was too early for people to be around. You saw a couple of joggers in the distance but no one you knew saw your shameful display. Not even two laps around the park. "Eiji, I just realized that I might not be good at this." You say as if you just realized that. Of course, you already knew. Not even training with the weight you bought helped. You still have less stamina than even normal people, you can't even compare to a hero.
Your friend laughed awkwardly. "No, no, don't give up yet. You just need… Some sugar, and water, and rest and… Maybe a change in your diet? That might help." He said, analyzing your body trying to look for a way to help you. He then walked to one of the nearby trees where you had your backpacks. He rummaged through his and threw you a granola bar. One of those in a packet with promises of quick energy and low fat, casually not talking about the huge sugar content. You managed to catch it with your telekinesis before it hits your face, which surprises Eijiro for a moment, probably not used to someone using different quirks. "Huh… Eat that, Daiki. You didn't have breakfast, right?" He asked.
"It's not even seven in the morning. When I answered your text I was still on bed… I had no time." You whine before saying thanks and eating the food. It helped fill a hole in your stomach you didn't realize you had until now.
"Well, that's normal training hours. When I come here to train with Shiro she is awake. You need to also train THAT aspect of your manly spirit." He says with a nod to himself, making a mental note. It feels like having a personal trainer. A lot more gentle than Shirohime.
You stand up on shaky legs once you are done with the energy bar and walk to your backpack, grabbing a water bottle and a towel to get rid of some of the sweat. Eijiro just took off his shirt to train, but you weren't at that point of training-crazy yet.
"I don't know…" You muse. "I really might not be cut for this training your body stuff. I know I'm good at other things and I can support my body using other quirks… But as a base? Maybe my body can't get much stronger." As you say that, Eijiro gasps as if you told a kid that Santa isn't real.
"You can't say that, Daiki! With enough spirit, you can do anything! If you put your mind into it you can become as strong as All-Might! Where is your manly spirit?" He asked while you drank some water to replenish everything that you lost trying to run two laps around the park.
"At six in the morning? In bed, probably." You said with a smirk. Eijiro didn't seem to appreciate your answer, but you thought it was funny.
"Dude, you have an amazing quirk. I know you have more than enough spirit in you to accomplish amazing things. Someone like you would make a great hero, but you need to give it all!" He says in that voice he uses when he tries to give a manly speech. It helps, it makes you feel ashamed of just sitting around, but a whole year of staying in your room made your body too weak and training just… Doesn't stick.
"I know, I know." You reply, getting serious. "And I tried. Before the tests, I trained hard with Shirohime. At first, I wasn't even sure about the whole… Hero thing. I was just following her. Then I realized that helping people is what I wanted and I started to train even harder." You sigh remembering the hours and hours of training. Last time you trained with your friends and all the time spent alone, trying on your own. "But after training for weeks… Look at me." You say opening your arms to show how thin they are. "I can't even do enough laps around the park to be considered in shape, much less hero material."
Your friend seems to think about it for a moment, trying to come up with the perfect answer. He ended up giving up and just said what his heart was telling him. He sat down next to you, both of you sitting with your backs against the biggest tree in the park. "Strenght isn't everything to be a hero." He said, surprising you because HE was the one telling you that. "The most important thing is your spirit and willingness to help others. Your manliness! That's why we made that promise yesterday. The promise to be the best heroes possible to help everyone. A manly promise that can't be broken!" He looks at you with a smile, you return a flat look.
"Eiji, two of the ones making a promise were girls." You reply pointing the flaw in his manly ideology.
"Daiki, girls can be manly too." He said as if it were obvious before shaking his head. "But that's not the point. The point is that not only you showed heroic spirit, you also have an heroic quirk! The power of friendship, it seems like something out of anime. Not like me." He said the last part so casually that you almost miss what he means. His eyes flickering downwards for a second makes it clear.
"What are you talking about? Your quirk is great." You state a bit perplexed. You've seen the quirk in action, he was much stronger than you during the test, but he shakes his head looking away, his smile diminishing and turning a bit sad.
"My quirk isn't as flashy as others. It makes me harder and a bit stronger but that's it. I can't do many of the things other people do. My quirk could be just copied by having enough armor, it's strong but can't stop bullets or something like that. I've been training it for years, but sometimes I think I reached it's limit already." As he talks you can feel hopelessness and worry. He really thinks this might be the full extent of his power. "I keep training, of course. I will be a hero… But I might not be one of the strongest."
At that moment you realize something. Eijiro is not free of the troubles you and others have. He might seem always confident and fired up, but deep down he has the same insecurities everyone has. He fears not being good enough.
Exactly what you think right now.
You suddenly stand up. "You are right." You say, looking at him with renewed will. You might be willing to lay down and think it's impossible for you, but you will NOT lay down and let a friend think the same.
"I'm… right?" He asks, looking back at you. His dark emotions gone, leaving only confusion.
"Yes… We are both right. My quirk is good, yours is more simple…" A conflicted look on his face, he wants to say something but you don't let him. "BUT! I'm too physically weak to be a hero and you are more than athletic enough to be one, so we are on the same both and have the same solution to our problems." His expression changes. Hope surging in his mind. His will to fight returning as strong as yours.
"And what's that solution?" He asks, already knowing the answer.
"We train even harder than before." You simply answer, giving him a hand to help him stand up. He grabs it with a smile.
"Daiki! Let's show the world how our manly spirit can break any limit we have!" He practically shouts, raising a fist to the sky and getting more pumped up than you've ever seen him get.
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Physical roll. DC 50: 58 (38 + 20)
Pass
"How… How did I do?" You asked from the ground, your breath heavy and tired, your body covered in sweat making you feel a bit cold and hot at the same time.
This time, Eijiro was smiling as he looked down on your prone form.
"Four laps. Double what you did last time… You did it, Daiki. This is certainly an improvement!" He seems excited and, even if you didn't do that much, you also feel like this is a huge victory.
And as he helped you deal with breaking your limits, you will help him with his.
[New Quest][Friends] Unbreakable will: Help Kirishima reach a higher potential with his quirk.
Reward: Kirishima's quirk levels up. +10 to training rolls while training with him.
Yay! We finally passed a a Body DC! Also, Quest get!
Poor Kirishima. Almost surprised we didn't need to roll a motivational speech. But, he's easy to hype up and motivate and he's our friend so I guess that's why.
My plan was for you to reach Body 2 before the week was over. You were SUPPOSED to reach it with this training... But man, Daiki is BAD at this.
You will have a chance for another training session with the twins (But you might want to choose the other option). If you succeed that training session you will start UA with 2 body. If you don't, then you might be the physically weakest person in the class until you finally train a bit more.
You will have a chance for another training session with the twins (But you might want to choose the other option). If you succeed that training session you will start UA with 2 body. If you don't, then you might be the physically weakest person in the class until you finally train a bit more.
My plan was for you to reach Body 2 before the week was over. You were SUPPOSED to reach it with this training... But man, Daiki is BAD at this.
You will have a chance for another training session with the twins (But you might want to choose the other option). If you succeed that training session you will start UA with 2 body. If you don't, then you might be the physically weakest person in the class until you finally train a bit more.
"Daiki! Let's show the world how our manly spirit can break any limit we have!" He practically shouts, raising a fist to the sky and getting more pumped up than you've ever seen him get.
I have to say a DC of 50 does seem a bit high for just reaching an average level of fitness, both from a mechanical point of view since it means we have about 50/50 odds on what's supped to be the easiest roll for training it and from a narrative point of view since it makes Daiki come across as pretty damn pathetic
It kinda makes it hard to believe that he actually got into UA when he's on the brink of passing out from running two laps
I have to say a DC of 50 does seem a bit high for just reaching an average level of fitness, both from a mechanical point of view since it means we have about 50/50 odds on what's supped to be the easiest roll for training it and from a narrative point of view since it makes Daiki come across as pretty damn pathetic
It kinda makes it hard to believe that he actually got into UA when he's on the brink of passing out from running two laps
It's supposed to be hard. People decided that not only would BODY be his lowest stat but also his weakness. The rolls had a +20 to them so I expected to at least one of them to pass, but the dice gods are the ones in charge of that.
He didn't pass the test by destroying robots or showing a trained body. He did well in the written test and then did something that no one ever did before, showing a huge amount of heroic spirit. His quirk is also pretty strong so that gave him some points.
He is not in the top 10 of the class, of course. He didn't even destroy too many robots.
But yeah, most people that only see him training his body wouldn't believe he managed to get into UA.
Aizawa already has a training plan ready for him. He made it with Daiki's sister while she was recovering. She wanted to make sure Daiki would get fit as soon as possible.
I have to say a DC of 50 does seem a bit high for just reaching an average level of fitness, both from a mechanical point of view since it means we have about 50/50 odds on what's supped to be the easiest roll for training it and from a narrative point of view since it makes Daiki come across as pretty damn pathetic
It kinda makes it hard to believe that he actually got into UA when he's on the brink of passing out from running two laps
Dude no offense but with that tone it just feels like you are whinning that someone has a particular flaw or weakness while ignoring the fact that Daiki outright has one of the strongest powers that's one with one of the best potential around. Then you need to remember the fact that people like Mineta managed to get it- and before you say he did better than Izuku in the first test should be pointed out that the test also allowed everyone to use their quirks and at the time Izuku just got his quirk while Mineta had his all his life like everyone else with a quirk.
It should also be pointed out that due to mutations some heroes may in fact have several of their abilities actually hampered by their quirk. A good example is principal Nezu who is likely the most physically weak teacher at UA but also has a pretty amazing quirk. And it was also pointed out that Daiki's family may naturally have weak bodies thanks to unlucky genetics in that department. And yet one of Daiki's sisters is one of the best heroes and in fact in the top ten IIRC.
I imagine that the tests are geared towards determining potential as much as other things since a major part of quirks is that they can grow and evolve and the main reason for schools is to teach students to improve. Considering Daiki's potential I can see how he was easily able to get into UA.
And really, just because a character is bad in one area doesn't mean that they are terrible in general. Unless you want us to play a Mary Sue is good at everything you shouldn't complain so strongly about our character not being good at certain things, especially since they have potential to improve on their weaknesses as well as their strengths.
It's supposed to be hard. People decided that not only would BODY be his lowest stat but also his weakness. The rolls had a +20 to them so I expected to at least one of them to pass, but the dice gods are the ones in charge of that.
He didn't pass the test by destroying robots or showing a trained body. He did well in the written test and then did something that no one ever did before, showing a huge amount of heroic spirit. His quirk is also pretty strong so that gave him some points.
He is not in the top 10 of the class, of course. He didn't even destroy too many robots.
But yeah, most people that only see him training his body wouldn't believe he managed to get into UA.
Aizawa already has a training plan ready for him. He made it with Daiki's sister while she was recovering. She wanted to make sure Daiki would get fit as soon as possible.
I get that it's supposed to be hard and of course the higher a number we try to reach the harder it will become but I just feel like a DC of 50 is a little high when it's just him trying to achieve the most basic level of fitness, especially when he has to do it multiple times just to make that jump to not totally pathetic
Dude no offense but with that tone it just feels like you are whinning that someone has a particular flaw or weakness while ignoring the fact that Daiki outright has one of the strongest powers that's one with one of the best potential around. Then you need to remember the fact that people like Mineta managed to get it- and before you say he did better than Izuku in the first test should be pointed out that the test also allowed everyone to use their quirks and at the time Izuku just got his quirk while Mineta had his all his life like everyone else with a quirk.
It should also be pointed out that due to mutations some heroes may in fact have several of their abilities actually hampered by their quirk. A good example is principal Nezu who is likely the most physically weak teacher at UA but also has a pretty amazing quirk. And it was also pointed out that Daiki's family may naturally have weak bodies thanks to unlucky genetics in that department. And yet one of Daiki's sisters is one of the best heroes and in fact in the top ten IIRC.
I imagine that the tests are geared towards determining potential as much as other things since a major part of quirks is that they can grow and evolve and the main reason for schools is to teach students to improve. Considering Daiki's potential I can see how he was easily able to get into UA.
And really, just because a character is bad in one area doesn't mean that they are terrible in general. Unless you want us to play a Mary Sue is good at everything you shouldn't complain so strongly about our character not being good at certain things, especially since they have potential to improve on their weaknesses as well as their strengths.
I'm not saying that Daiki has to be good at everything my only problem is that I feel like the DC is a little too high for achieving a regular level of physical fitness
And while there are definitely heroes who are comparably weaker I doubt there are many that are weaker than the majority of average citizens
I get that it's supposed to be hard and of course the higher a number we try to reach the harder it will become but I just feel like a DC of 50 is a little high when it's just him trying to achieve the most basic level of fitness, especially when he has to do it multiple times just to make that jump to not totally pathetic
I get what are you talking about. Daiki feels really weak in this update. Maybe I overdid it a little with showing his weakness but he is pretty out of shape. His family just have weak bodies. I make it harder to raise the Stats because from 1 to 2 the jump is pretty high. If my stats went from 1 to 100 I would make it much easier but would also need more math. Right now you are at 1.8 or 1.9 even with all the fails. Remember that you only rolled for training three times and two of them in the same update.
But yeah, I get that you feel like Daiki might be too weak, but he have options to improve.
And don't worry. Aizawa will make sure he gets in shape so he can use his spirit and quirk to be a hero properly.
And that's why he isn't a hero yet but training to be one. To get rid of his weaknesses.
Edit: Also realized that this is exactly the point of the update and the talk Kirishima and Daiki have. They both know they have a huge flaw that makes it so they can't be proper heroes. Kirishima's quirk is relatively weak and Daiki is not in shape, but both want to improve their flaws. They both have what the other doesn't. A good quirk with potential and a fit body.
Both get into UA even if think they might not be able to be a real hero because of their flaws.
I get what are you talking about. Daiki feels really weak in this update. Maybe I overdid it a little with showing his weakness but he is pretty out of shape. His family just have weak bodies. I make it harder to raise the Stats because from 1 to 2 the jump is pretty high. If my stats went from 1 to 100 I would make it much easier but would also need more math. Right now you are at 1.8 or 1.9 even with all the fails. Remember that you only rolled for training three times and two of them in the same update.
But yeah, I get that you feel like Daiki might be too weak, but he have options to improve.
And don't worry. Aizawa will make sure he gets in shape so he can use his spirit and quirk to be a hero properly.
And that's why he isn't a hero yet but training to be one. To get rid of his weaknesses.
Edit: Also realized that this is exactly the point of the update and the talk Kirishima and Daiki have. They both know they have a huge flaw that makes it so they can't be proper heroes. Kirishima's quirk is relatively weak and Daiki is not in shape, but both want to improve their flaws. They both have what the other doesn't. A good quirk with potential and a fit body.
Both get into UA even if think they might not be able to be a real hero because of their flaws.
I want to make it clear by the way that I do really enjoy this quest, I just wanted to convey my opinion on this but I'll leave it for now since you've clearly thought this out
I want to make it clear by the way that I do really enjoy this quest, I just wanted to convey my opinion on this but I'll leave it for now since you've clearly thought this out
And I'm happy with anyone conveying their opinions. Pointing out stuff like this and talking about it is the only way for me to improve. It's not like I don't ever make mistakes or something.
And again I point to Nezu who seems pretty physically weak but has a bullshit quirk. I imagine that if a potential hero has a weak body to begin with that having a really good quirk and good mental prowess would make up for it since as pointed out some quirks can have negative affects on their physical abilities with said quirk itself being potentially amazing in a number of other areas. Hell, Daiki's quirk is versatile enough to make up for it since he even has physical boosting powers.
Part of it is you don't show what times he's trying to hit when you show him exhausted from running.
It'd be pretty easy to explain if he's trying to skip straight to running without the long build up of slow jogging and other basics to build endurance. His friends probably don't help since they're in so much better shape that they can't really understand being in as such bad shape as he is.
For an American comparison, Daiki sounds like the kid who legitimately needs 12 minutes to run a mile in PE, while his friends are the kind of people who break 8 minutes even when they're totally out of shape.
Someone like Daiki trying to match even their slow pace just doesn't really work out.
I get what are you talking about. Daiki feels really weak in this update. Maybe I overdid it a little with showing his weakness but he is pretty out of shape. His family just have weak bodies. I make it harder to raise the Stats because from 1 to 2 the jump is pretty high. If my stats went from 1 to 100 I would make it much easier but would also need more math. Right now you are at 1.8 or 1.9 even with all the fails. Remember that you only rolled for training three times and two of them in the same update.
But yeah, I get that you feel like Daiki might be too weak, but he have options to improve.
And don't worry. Aizawa will make sure he gets in shape so he can use his spirit and quirk to be a hero properly.
To be fair Izuku spent 10 months of intense physical training and still got the lowest score for the first test by Aizawa. Sure the test let everyone use their quirks but it still says a lot that Izuku still scored lower than Tooru. So think it makes sense for Daiki to need a lot of training to raise his physical stats since we did pick that as a weakness. Just as much sense for Daiki to end up as one of the physically weakest people in class near the bottom without quirk use.
Sure we can train it to be higher but after a certain point feels like due to picking it as our weakness that raising it after a certain point would just be impractical.
So I have to ask, is the way to help Kirishima strengthen his Quirk to help him realise that the more damage he takes while using it the tougher it is the next time he uses it?
EDIT: Also, while I doubt we could, would we be allowed to train Daiki's body while using Roar of the Dragon to use that extra dice?
So I have to ask, is the way to help Kirishima strengthen his Quirk to help him realise that the more damage he takes while using it the tougher it is the next time he uses it?
EDIT: Also, while I doubt we could, would we be allowed to train Daiki's body while using Roar of the Dragon to use that extra dice?