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Martin Rudat said:
Another thought is if Hermione has been learning to passively observe the world around her; is she magically good at dodge ball if she's not carefully making sure she isn't? =)
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Depends on how much range she's got when she's not deliberately extending it outwards, probably. The impression I'd gotten is that the only thing she picks up from very far away without some focus applied to it is magical phenomenon, but that might not be right.

-Morgan.
 
Martin Rudat said:
Another thought is if Hermione has been learning to passively observe the world around her; is she magically good at dodge ball if she's not carefully making sure she isn't? =)
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She could track a ball blocks away with her eyes closed it seems, but that's a whole different question than whether she has exceptional multitasking to usefully consider all nearby moving objects.

...Or the physical coordination to take advantage of such tracking for that matter.
 
Just wait for poor Prof McG to come deliver her letter in a year… if I understand correctly Hermione is working a level "lower" than wizards and witches do already so I wonder what a "magic" user will make of how she does things.

Come to think of it her first trip to Diagon is going to be interesting as well. I wonder how Ollivander will take being told he's making his wands all wrong, by a girl who's learning to make similar "tools" with the power of her mind :)
 
mp3.1415player said:
And so on. As soon as you start thinking about the story you can't help but find gaping holes all over the place. Which does, of course, leave it ripe for fanfics to fill some of them :)
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My favourite take of Dumbledore is in does Voldemort even lift bro.

They really managed to explain reasonably all his actions with one little added personality trait, drug addiction, the guy is high the entire fanfic.
 
One thing I find strange is that with all this time Hermoine has never detected any sort of magical being or thing come near her home or school and considering her detection range reaches planes then it has developed into quite a large range! It's just seems unlikely that some random wizard or magical beast hasn't accidentally wandered in during the years.

My admittedly long shot guess is that Mr. Boots is an Animagus. Hermoine has never seen one so she won't know if she is looking at one to begin with!

Either sent by the ministry to monitor her, one that fortunately lived nearby and made sure that no other magical being or thing came close for security, or a bit of a stretch but the cat could be McGonagall sent by Dumbledore.

As to why nobody has contacted her? Probably in the rules or some such.
 
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clonezero said:
My admittedly lang ng shot guess is that Mr. Boots is an Animagus. Either sent by the ministry to monitor her, one that fortunately lived nearby and made sure that no other magical being or thing came close for security, or a bit of a stretch but the cat could be McGonagall sent by Dumbledore.
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It's already been pointed out that the cat is Mr Boots, not Miss Boots; so it's not McGonagall.

EDIT: And cats can't get married, so naturally it's not Mrs Boots either.
 
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clonezero said:
One thing I find strange is that with all this time Hermoine has never detected any sort of magical being or thing come near her home or school and considering her detection range reaches planes then it has developed into quite a large range! It's just seems unlikely that some random wizard or magical beast hasn't accidentally wandered in during the years.
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Random owl flying past with a letter with some enchantment on it (howler, curse or soaked in domination drugs love potion) sounds like something that could happen rather easily, true. Or some kneazle or something sneaking by. Thing is, would a magical animal be detectable if it doesn't do anything magical at that moment? I suspect many of them would not really stand out too much unless when said abilities are actively being used.
Rathmun said:
You say that like people haven't done all sorts of stupid and insane things for many years now...
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*cough*Millenia*cough*

Honestly, human society leading to insane results is something that probably predates written history by quite a lot.
 
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Thanks for the Wordz. :)

It's nice to see 'mione on the way to accidently copy most of the powersets of Jean Grey and Susan Storm.
If things go sour she can always make some money as a Mimecatcher! 🦎
 
So the thing she couldn't get a handle on was the abstraction layer that enables abstract (concept-based) spells?
 
Patch said:
I have a question, if Hermione's dad can do that why didn't he go to Hogwarts?
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Because he's using orders of magnitude less energy than a witch or wizard. Hermione started out brute forcing this stuff and refined it over the course of the story especially once she worked out the amplification circuit. With that, the millihops that her father can produce can be turned into useful stuff.
 
Rathmun said:
You say that like people haven't done all sorts of stupid and insane things for many years now...
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You know how explaining the joke ruins it?
Anti-No said:
I suspect many of them would not really stand out too much unless when said abilities are actively being used.
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Depends what you mean by "actively" because I'm pretty sure at least a few, like Thestrals or Acromantula for examples, use magic just to exist. Arachnids for example can't normally get that big without increasing the local oxygen concentration¹ significantly, or fundamentally altering their physiology. Thestrals must be maintaining either their invisibility or the field that lets them detect people who "should" be able to see them constantly too, maybe both.

¹ if they do have a passive effect that super-oxygenates the air around them though, it would explain the fear of fire and its effectiveness against them.
 
clonezero said:
One thing I find strange is that with all this time Hermoine has never detected any sort of magical being or thing come near her home or school and considering her detection range reaches planes then it has developed into quite a large range! It's just seems unlikely that some random wizard or magical beast hasn't accidentally wandered in during the years.
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Hermione lives a good ways out from London, so unless there was a Magical living nearby, she wouldn't notice. Also, there's not really a lot of Magicals in Britain as a whole.

The class of '91 at Hogwarts was forty children. Assuming that the majority of kids went to Hogwarts that's probably no more than 75, and likely less than 50 magical children born in all of Great Britain back in 1980. Compare that to the ~750,000 actual births.

Muggle births outnumber Magicals ten thousand to one. At best.

Hogwarts exists at this point in time to make sure that Magicals can actually meet one another and hook up at a point when teen hormones can do their thing.

It's a breeding pen, because what the hell else is there to do in the bumfuck nowhere that is the Scottish Highlands?
 
Given her reaction to wizard magic, I wonder how magical animals' magic will look to her. If it's anything like the product of biological evolution it'll be really weird; evolution produces massively complicated layered kludges that get honed down to extremely efficient and effective kludges. But still kludges. It ought to be very distinctive, easy to distinguish from her own abilities and what wizards do.
 
Darkphoenixlady said:
Because he's using orders of magnitude less energy than a witch or wizard. Hermione started out brute forcing this stuff and refined it over the course of the story especially once she worked out the amplification circuit. With that, the millihops that her father can produce can be turned into useful stuff.
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Yup and that is going to set the fox in the hen house when it's found out you can "teach" a non-magic how to do magic. I can see it being more like building up strength from practice from the explanation so they had to have some magic it them.

There is a fairly common trope that there is no such thing as a pure muggle-born witch or wizard but that they are from squibs in there family line. What I am wondering is can they do at least this kind of magic because they are weak squibs or are they as non magic as you can get to start with. As that would mean EVERYONE is magical so what's the point of secrecy.

Glad to see more, always hungry for any wordz you can spare good sir.
 
Shandrakor said:
There is a fairly common trope that there is no such thing as a pure muggle-born witch or wizard but that they are from squibs in there family line. What I am wondering is can they do at least this kind of magic because they are weak squibs or are they as non magic as you can get to start with. As that would mean EVERYONE is magical so what's the point of secrecy.
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There is also the argument that after thousands of years of interbreeding there's no such thing as "pure muggle-born" at all; if you go far back enough it's basically inevitable that there's going to be a wizard somewhere.

It's the same principle of how if you track anybody's line far back enough eventually you'll find somebody famous or important, since the number of people descended from any one individual tends to grow with each generation. Go back a thousand or two years and you'll likely find a king or the like somewhere among your ancestry. The only question is if anyone has kept track of that particular line long enough to know when it was, or if it's just lost to history.

If Hermione has a greatx10-grandparent who was a wizard it's unlikely that anyone would know.
 
You also have to ask, of course and as I have done in the past, where did the first wizard come from?

Or was it not some wonderful mystical thing like they probably think it was, but only someone who had a slightly greater ability to do magical stuff than everyone else around him/her and it all snowballed from there? Leading in the end to a group of people who actively filtered out those who also had an obvious talent while everyone else, who only had a latent ability which for various reasons never got noticed, were excluded from the whole thing. The end result being what they now have...
 
if the forcefield is triggered by fast moving objects, it should be on all the time because photons, neutrinos, and such are constantly blasting it. If it is specifically set not to block near light speed objects or subatomic particles, then it is vulnerable to energy weapons like lasers and plasma cannons as well as flash bangs and lightning strikes.
 
.seth said:
if the forcefield is triggered by fast moving objects, it should be on all the time because photons, neutrinos, and such are constantly blasting it. If it is specifically set not to block near light speed objects or subatomic particles, then it is vulnerable to energy weapons like lasers and plasma cannons as well as flash bangs and lightning strikes.
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The forcefield Hermione created is intended to protect against hurting yourself when self-levitating (i.e. crashing into things) - thus air and light permeable - not to help you conquer a planet on your own. ;)
 
mp3.1415player said:
HP canon is full of that sort of thing, and very little of it casts Dumbledore in a positive light unless you also assume he wasn't really that competent any more to begin with.
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Anyone else remember the old theory that Dumbledore was a time traveling Ron? It would have closed so many plot holes by having him repeat idiocy to avoid paradox. Especially since he'd already know the kiddos would make it.
 
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