Gunsmith Katsumi - Akitsukuni Arms Design Quest

Character Sheet
Tachibana Katsumi

Stress: 5/10

Accomplishments
Mechanical Engineering degree
Got a job in your field
Type 37 Special Purpose Rifle
Type 38 Self-Loading Pistol

Friends
Maeda Rumi: Your roommate.
Sanders Clara Rose: A colleague who works for Naylor, Sons & Daughters.

Coworkers
Mr. Watanabe: Your superior.
Mr. Akutagawa: The boss of the company.

Workshop 3
Ms. Ikeda Nioh: Chemist. She also seems to be Mr Watanabe's personal secretary, but you're not sure if that's an official position.
Mr. Yakade Yasuo: Physicist, specialized in ballistics. A living, breathing Technical Appendix C.
Mx. Kusonoki Mayumi: Has a degree in materials science. Gets a look on their face when they say they know more about wood than anyone.
Mr. Shiragiku Hideyoshi: Metalworker. Having met him, you've learned why metalworking is a craft and the meaning of the phrase "thinks himself heaven's gift to women".
Mr. Kashiwa Ichiro: An apprentice gunsmith with a background in carpentry and actually using guns on people.

Technologies
Rifles (Familiar)
Shotguns (Familiar)
Pistols (Familiar)

Rotate-and-pull bolts (Practical)
Straight-pull bolts (Practical)
Aperture sights (Practical)
Stripper clips (Practical)
Lever-delayed blowback operation (Practical)
Double-stack magazines (Practical)
Single-action handguns (Practical)
En bloc clips (Conceptual)
Simple blowback operation (Conceptual)
Short recoil operation (Conceptual)
Toggle-delayed blowback operation (Conceptual)
Blow forward operation (Conceptual)
Simple blowback operation (Conceptual)
Double-action pistols (Conceptual)
Automatic revolvers (Conceptual)
 
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We don't particularly like shotgun idea, but it occurred to us that being able to also shoot flares with it might be of interest to folks. Unfortunately, it seems that the 12 guage standard for flares is a much more modern invention.
 
Someone's already tried that too. "Like a swarm of angry bees". :)

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It was originally marketed for law enforcement, and... was more successful in that than you might expect.
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Well, 22 rimfire is one of the safer cartridges to use in that kind of environment. However, at 1200 rounds per minute, it can still defeat barricades, it could defeat body armor, because the gun just really doesn't move and if you hammer the target five or ten times in the same spot, even with a low-powered cartridge like a 22 it'll still eventually make a hole.
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Two-man patrol was chasing a pair of burglary suspects in a camaro, and one of those guys turned around and fired a handgun through the back window at the police, so the two cops shot back, one of them with a shotgun ... and the other guy had an American 180 and fired about 40 rounds at the car - which takes all of, y'know, braaap and that's about 40 rounds - and the driver died on the scene and the passenger was apprehended alive but with multiple bullet wounds.

This... actually sounds like it worked amazingly well relative to the overall silliness of the idea, lol.

edit: And a great gun for taking to the range for fun, which bodes well for the civilian market that our company panders to outside military contracts. :p

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We don't particularly like shotgun idea, but it occurred to us that being able to also shoot flares with it might be of interest to folks. Unfortunately, it seems that the 12 guage standard for flares is a much more modern invention.
If every single crewman had a 12-gauge barrel on their person, the navy might just produce a 12-gauge flare round just for them to carry around a bunch of the time. Being able to fire a flare if you fall into the water sounds like it'd be shockingly useful in random situations.
 
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This... actually sounds like it worked amazingly well relative to the overall silliness of the idea, lol.

edit: And it sounds like it would be a great gun for taking to the range for fun, which bodes well for the civilian market that our company panders to outside military contracts. :p
On the one hand, we're a somewhat rural nation where a number of our customers use our precision rifles to feed their families and actually make an income.

On the other hand, part of what we do is sell basically artisan-crafted guns to the nobility who have the money to throw away on expensive shit for wild parties.

Depending on whether there's a domestic production capability for .22LR we could market it as a 'trench-sweeper', as modern body armor doesn't seem to be much of a thing yet.
 
The American 180 design also inspired the MGV-176 for the Slovenian Territorial Army in Yugoslavia, which seems to have achieved some level of success in the scuffles in 1991-92 as Slovenia broke free.

For such a terrible idea the .22LR Buzzsaw hasn't done too badly. However, nobody has yet asked you to design one.
 
On the one hand, we're a somewhat rural nation where a number of our customers use our precision rifles to feed their families and actually make an income.
Not sure that'd be something people would buy pistols for, so...
The American 180 design also inspired the MGV-176 for the Slovenian Territorial Army in Yugoslavia, which seems to have achieved some level of success in the scuffles in 1991-92 as Slovenia broke free.

For such a terrible idea the .22LR Buzzsaw hasn't done too badly. However, nobody has yet asked you to design one.
That's the thing - it perfectly satisfies the requirements! 8-round magazine capacity, check. No lethality requirements, check. Useful in close-quarters combat, lol check - just hose the whole room in a single sweep and you're done. Uses an internationally common cartridge, check - 22LR Is like the most common round in the world. Civilian sales, lol check.

Unrelated idea: Janky burst-fire by making it full-auto but having the trigger disconnect at the end of the pull. So you start pulling the trigger, it starts firing, your finger hits the end of travel and it stops firing, and depending on how fast you pulled the trigger it'll have fired anywhere between one and four bullets. :V

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Depending on whether there's a domestic production capability for .22LR we could market it as a 'trench-sweeper', as modern body armor doesn't seem to be much of a thing yet.
Yup. Also good for room-clearing, which is what boarding actions are.
 
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Not sure that'd be something people would buy pistols for, so...That's the thing - it perfectly satisfies the requirements! 8-round magazine capacity, check. No lethality requirements, check. Useful in close-quarters combat, lol check - just hose the whole room in a single sweep and you're done. Uses an internationally common cartridge, check - 22LR Is like the most common round in the world. Civilian sales, lol check.

Weighs less than 1000 grams, no check...
 
Also it should be noted that at this time at the turn of the century .22LR isnt really that popular, and historically wasn't the market straddling behemoth we know today until well into the 1950s-60s. .22 Short and .22 Long would be far mor popular especially for pistols at this time. Overall a .22 gun that isnt for training is a non starter given these range requirements we need something hot.
 
Also it should be noted that at this time at the turn of the century .22LR isnt really that popular, and historically wasn't the market straddling behemoth we know today until well into the 1950s-60s. .22 Short and .22 Long would be far mor popular especially for pistols at this time. Overall a .22 gun that isnt for training is a non starter given these range requirements we need something hot.
9x19mm ought to be perfectly adequate for our purposes, and OTL it was designed in 1901, so it wouldn't be out of place.
 
9x19mm ought to be perfectly adequate for our purposes, and OTL it was designed in 1901, so it wouldn't be out of place.


Honestly I would much prefer something like .30 Mauser out of say a 5-6 inch barrel since that hews closer to katsumi's focus on small bore high velocity cartridges and gives us more magazine capacity. That and .30 Mauser or 7.63 Katzen in this quest has more production capacity whereas updates have noted 9x19 isnt selling well atm.
 
I can also see the "masterkey" being useful in urban combat as well.

Say a unit is ordered to take a building but it's locked. Well, they can either try to climb in through a window, or the corporal can just pull out his handy dandy masterkey, unlock the door, and in they go in. No muss, no fuss.

Or potentially breaching a room with enemies inside. Rather than kick the door and get one of your squad killed, corporal takes his handy dandy house key.
Key out.
Door open.
Grenade in.
Squad in.

A KAC masterkey is 4 rounds of 12 gauge, and for good reason. One round of 20 gauge isn't a house key so much as a starting pistol for the defenders. Even if we assume a single shot of 20 gauge is up to the task of getting through an exterior door and damaging the mechanism it hits enough that the latching is destroyed, a deadbolt and a latch pretty much stop you dead in your tracks. Firing shot isn't magic, it doesn't just pop the door open, you've got to break mechanisms. I can't help but see 20 gauge against a door frame as setting oneself up for disappointment and the enemy's field experiments on whether walls are concealment or cover against full power rifle rounds.

Plus, is fighting in cities a major feature of contemporary experience? There's a few here and there, but everything I gathered indicates that the last Akitsukuni war was largely fought in trenches, and buildings are occasional if important terrain, but what are the odds of a proper rail hub, which cities are, being contested in the city proper rather than troops arriving by rail and moving to the front and/or establishing one far enough out that they can benefit from the city? (I'm not intimately familiar with the Gayaverse equivalents, but basically all the major fighting of the 1800s is field battles, with just about every battle of <cityname> in the ACW being outside city limits or being a siege, and the european experience was largely limited to the odd sideshow like the Battle of Bazeilles, or the fall of the Paris Commune during the Franco-Prussian war, which was pretty weird overall.)

I still say go for some kind of modular system. For one, it would allow blokes to customize their sidearm as they like. You know, make it easy to change it up, give it character, make it your own, breathe life into it. Make it easy to spend time with it.

Sure, the base frame is the same as what everybody else has, but Usagi-san is special because he is yours. Usagi-san has an extended barrel, aftermarket trigger group so the trigger is just so crisp, and you put a little bit of army blue paint on the sights just to make them easier to see in the evening, and the grip has a little compartment to hold a charm that your sister made to keep you safe. For some reason Usagi-san has a picky diet. He hates Akibara ammo, but Kobayashi ammo is fine. There's a little tachibana at the end of the serial number. You don't know what that is, but you hear it's good luck.

In this period, if you pull a spare part, you'll be expecting to hand fit it. Under those assumptions, most things are relatively modular. It's not trivial like it is these days to build something out of parts from different manufacturers though, it'd all be hand fit. It'd be a somewhat interesting cultural outlook, but it's not really a design feature you can include or exclude. An aftermarket trigger would be less a drop-in off the shelf and more a lot of care and time taking to polish all the sears and surfaces, and make sure the springs are tuned right. Private purchase guns probably would have the option of different barrel lengths and so on already.
 
Also small note: not sure a ballistic coefficient of .5 is realistic, quick google doesn't give me any samples to work from, but using that and Hornady's ballistic calculator , a pretty standard 7.63 Mauser round with performance off Wikipedia says we're only about 6 and a half inches difference between highest and lowest impact point over about 150 yards shooting when level (and 1.5" sight elevation, for 'what inputs did I use') -- "adjustable" sights for that range almost seems kinda redundant, or at least fast-talkable. :)

I'm sorry I didn't notice this earlier. 1.5" sight elevation is possibly a bit high, but might make sense if the adjustable sights elevate to get there.

The main thing is that a .5 G1 ballistic coefficient is pretty far off, unfortunately. Our 6.5 rifle cartridge is probably roughly .65, Swiss GP 11 is probably right around .5, and pistol bullets tend to range between .1 and .15. Don't feel bad, I would've had no idea where to look if an acquaintance hadn't just used their figures. It's hard enough getting good ballistic coefficients for modern target rounds, and there are people who actually use those.

The result is it's lost almost half its energy and a third of its velocity by 150 yards, and with 1.25" high sights and a 14 yard zero, it's a six o clock hold for quite a ways but it only goes an inch and a half high, but by 150 yards it's 10.7 inches low. Generally my response would be who cares, if you want to get good enough at stupid gun tricks to get pistol hits at 150 yards you can learn to hold a foot high, but this is intended to be usable with a stock. With a 25 yard zero, you don't have the bullet ever going far above the point of aim, but it increases drop at 150 to 14.9 inches.

Honestly, out to 100, who cares, you can keep accuracy within a few inches up/down and it's not a huge deal. Like you can zero for 20 yards, and it'll top out at .6 inches over the point of aim before dropping to 3.2 inches below. A vertical dispersion of under 4 inches really isn't awful. Problem is by 150 yards it's down 13.8 inches (also it's subsonic and has been for forty-fifty yards).

In general with all guns, the ballistic trajectory is like that. There's a good region where everything's nice and simple, the bullet goes up a bit to meet the sights, then comes back down pretty slowly, then there's a region where the round's slower and drop's built up and you need to be on the ball to land hits, and if you eyeball it you're going to have a hard time hitting, and then the bottom's really fallen out and you'd better be ready to do some field expedient math if you want to hit at all. With 5.56 and a 100 yard zero on a 16" barrel, for instance, you'll be within your first milliradian of hold out to 300 yards, but then your next milliradian only gets you out to 450, and it speeds up from there, and while you can still hit, you want to have some idea what's up if you want to hit a man sized target and it's much easier if your sights accommodate it. With a pistol that regime starts very quickly, and 150 yards for a stocked pistol is firmly in that middle region where it isn't absurd to want to be able to sight in.
 
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2-3 Captain Maruyama
[X] Captain Maruyama, a Navy Officer from the Naval Small Arms Centre who has been made available in the same way.

The Navy Small Arms Centre, previously the old ropewalk in Tokei Naval Dockyard, still smells of wet paint. You inspect the tasteful display of a disassembled Type 11 machine gun, keeping your kimono clear of the walls, while you wait.

"Come in!" calls a voice from beyond the door, and you enter Captain Maruyama's office.

Your first impression of the man is of a coiled spring, lacking the relaxed poise of his father. He's short and slight, with an animated face and serious eyes.

"Ah, welcome, so good to meet another young person in the firearms design business. What can I do for you?"

This is probably the most effusive welcome you've had from any Akitsukuni person who knows you're an engineer. What does he want?

"We… uh… I'm here from Imperial Matchlocks," you blurt. "We'd like advice on the pistol requirement." This is all stuff he already knows, say something else! "The hand-to-hand requirement in particular."

"Oh, that Army crap?" he laughs. "They want a sword, not a pistol! Revolver, big heavy bullet, and top it all off by trying to hit people over the head with it. Bunch of grandpas and backsliders! All too busy reliving their glory days, when they could chop peasants' heads off to see whose sword was the sharpest."

He rearranges the papers on his desk a little and for a moment you see a pamphlet with some sort of red seal on the front before he produces a heavily annotated copy of the same requirements letter you had.

"The pistol the Navy needs is a quick-firing, easy to use automatic pistol that can fire a lot of bullets. The type of combat we train for here is close engagements, typically through corridors or compartments. Fourteen metres is the average engagement range in that environment, you barely need to aim. Don't listen to the Army when they say it's different for them, the pistol is a sidearm: nobody's going to use a pistol if the enemy is at rifle ranges. Any successful attack will involve closing the distance anyway. We train to enter rooms and trenches and fire as many shots as we can until the enemy is down. Eight rounds is really a minimum requirement; stopping to reload is a death sentence. Don't worry about calibre, the important thing is hits. Bang-bang, next target." He mimes a left handed shooting stance.

"This," he opens a drawer and withdraws a handgun, a shiny silver Wilde 1907, "is exactly what we're looking for. Ten shots quick! Honestly, license one of these and you'll be set."

Well, that was simple. At least it would be, if you had no professional pride.

"May I have a look?" you ask, eager to get hands on with a pistol you've only read about.

"Of course,"

You slip on your gloves and he hands it to you. You take a few moments to feel the weight, then try an aiming stance. It feels very natural to point. Holding around the grip and pulling your thumb back, you can flip the safety lever between 'safe' and 'fire' without much issue.

Then you try it in your left hand, like Captain Maruyama. It's unfamiliar, but feels no different from holding it right-handed—but you can't reach the safety.

"There must be some room for improvement," you prompt. Captain Maruyama nods.

"There's only two problems with the Wilde. As you've discovered for yourself you can't operate the safety from a left-handed grip. We really need a pistol that works in either hand: ratings are taught to hold and fire with the right hand, while us officers are taught to fire with the left hand because we're supposed to hold a sword with our right. Until we can abolish the traditionalist officer class, we're stuck with an ambidextrous requirement."

You nod: "And the second thing… automatic fire mode, like a tiny machine gun?"

He looks at you with renewed interest: "Ah, interesting idea! You'd go through the magazine far too quickly but most people would never think to ask. No, it's the styling of the gun, much too blocky. They're weapons of war, of aggression, why does everyone insist on making them look like they're moving slowly? Modern weapons should reflect their modernity, they should look like fast cars or airplanes! The original grips were this dire brown colour too, change that."

This is certainly an angle you would never have considered before. The Type 37 had been designed so that the outside fitted over the inside, but maybe a little aesthetic flare is necessary for sales?

You're trying to think of another question to ask when Maruyama's secretary pokes their head in the door: "Five minutes until your meeting with Chief Obata."

You hand the pistol back and bow.

"I can't take any more of your time, Captain Maruyama. Thank you for your insights, you have been a great help."

"Oh, it's no trouble, I'm glad to have someone else who really gets it. Borrow a book!"

He gestures at a bookshelf overflowing with pamphlets and technical journals, almost all in some Europan language. Maybe Otrusian? You grab one written in proper, Akitsukuni characters and thank him again as you head out.

Well, that was
[ ] interesting!
[ ] ... interesting.​

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When you get back home after work you discover that Rumi found a deal on eggs and has borrowed a neighbour's egg pan to make omelettes. You drop your bag off and scootch up next to her to fry some fish.

"How was your day?" you ask.

"So-so," she answers, "Lots of people buying scarves today, for some reason. You?"

"We've started a new project. A candidate for the Army-Navy pistol trials."

"You sound excited, what are you making?"

"We don't know yet. Maybe a revolver, maybe an automatic pistol," you shrug and cut the head off a fish.

"What's the difference?" Rumi asks.

"The revolver has a revolvy bit to put the next bullet in place, the automatic does it automatically instead," you say, sticking your tongue out at her.

"Har-har, you know what I meant. Which one is better for what?"

You take a more serious tone: "Well, the traditional answer is that they're both good for different things, but in the last few years that's become less true. Revolvers are simple and cheap to manufacture, but they tend to be heavy because they have to have multiple chambers. Uh, the 'chamber' is the bit the explosion happens in to propel the bullet. You have to make it strong, otherwise it propels itself into your face."

Rumi's eyes widen a little.

"Anyway, automatic pistols have one chamber and feed the bullets in from a magazine, like a rifle. You have to use springs to make them work, which is a little more difficult and expensive, but you get a better gun out at the end as long as you do it right."

Rumi nods: "Easy decision then, right?"

"Not quite," you grimace, picking out the last pinbone "The other major factor is user opinion. We're producing a gun we want others to buy and a lot of people still think revolvers are the most reliable type of handgun. They're not entirely wrong, if the gun misfires then with a revolver you can just keep pulling the trigger until it goes bang, which is nice. I just think expecting your gun to not work is pessimistic."

Rumi slides her omelette onto a plate "Ah, so you're definitely going for the revolver then!"

"I'm not pessimistic, I just..."

"Think that things will always go badly?"

You shrug helplessly and turn a fillet in the pan.

"This fish is looking good, I don't know what you're talking about."

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The next day your team filters into the office, chatting to one another animatedly. Kusunoki comes in carrying a huge briefcase, obviously far too heavy for them, and thumps it onto their desk. They open it up, and from its depths they pull out box after box. They open the lid of the first one and pull out a Wilkinson revolver with a beautiful finish.

"Wilkinson revolver, six shots of four-five-five Wilkinson, double action and single action, top break…" they demonstrate "with automatic ejection."

They put it down on top of its box and open another, pulling out a pistol with the lines of a Clark design. In Kusunoki's hands it looks ridiculous, the kind of pistol that gets called a 'hand cannon'.

"Carvale-production Palten Werke automatic pistol, model of 1911. Single action, and a revolver-style hammer at the back. It holds eight rounds in a magazine in the grip, and you reload it by pulling the top back and inserting a clip."

They demonstrate, pulling the top of the pistol back until you can see into the magazine in the grip, which they load with a stripper clip just like you'd load the Type 37.

"Then you just push this button here to close the pistol and chamber a round."

They push the button, and the pistol spits all eight rounds out the top, into Kusunoki's face.

"Fuck, okay, that was the premature ejection button," they say, a grin spreading across their embarrassed face. "This closes the pistol."

The top of the Palten slams forward. They put the pistol down and open a nondescript brown cardboard box, pulling out something that you mistake at first for a Broomhandle Katzen.

"We couldn't find a Katzen ninety-six, but we found this at a pawnshop down by the docks. It's pretty much the same thing: a standard automatic pistol design, single action, revolver-style hammer at the back, and a magazine in front of the trigger that you can reload with stripper clips. It holds six rounds to the Katzen's ten, but what sets this apart is that you can replace the magazine."

Kusunoki takes hold of the square box in front of the trigger and pulls it down. They hold up a small metal box, not unlike the magazine on a Pocket Hammerless. Speaking of the Hammerless, Kusunoki puts the not-a-Katzen down and has Kashiwa pass them one. In Kashiwa's hands it looks tiny, but it's sized just right for Kusunoki.

"Just for comparison, the Pocket Hammerless we sell. Standard Clark design, single action, the hammer is concealed so you have to pull the slide every time, and the eight-round magazine is in the grip. It can be replaced like so:"

They remove the magazine briefly before putting it back in.

"Now, some of the really weird things we found," Kusunoki says and opens a box to reveal a revolver. "Wilkinson-Hall self-loading revolver."

There's a murmur around the room.

"Double action only, but every time you fire it, the recoil cocks the hammer and rotates the cylinder."

They hold the revolver out and grip the barrel, pushing it back. The entire top half of the revolver slides backwards, then snaps forward when Kusunoki lets go. In the process, the cylinder has rotated one step and the hammer has locked back, cocked and ready to fire. Kusunoki pulls the trigger so the hammer drops, and repeats the demonstration a few times.

"Top break, automatic ejection, holds eight rounds of nine milimeter automatic pistol."

They put it down and you can barely resist lunging for the gun just to see how the hell they managed a self-loading revolver with eight shots. While you maintain an unearthly level of discipline, Kusunoki has opened another box and pulled out a pistol. It's huge and Kusunoki can barely get their hands around the grip. The top half looks like a Broomhandle Katzen, the bottom half like a Clark design.

"This is pretty weird, but I like it. It's a Blanc-Streep self-loading pistol. Single-action, revolver style hammer, and a ten-round magazine in the grip, removable like a Pocket Hammerless. This lever..."

They point to a lever under the trigger, shaped so they can wrap their middle and ring finger over it. They grip around it and pull, which pulls the top half of the pistol back.

"...pulls the sliding top half back, chambering a round from the magazine and cocking the hammer. This cocking mechanism works in the left hand too, so you can do it both ways. Well, maybe not you, boss."

"Low blow, Kusunoki." you say flatly.

It seems to take every bit of self-control left in Kusunoki's body not to say what's on their mind.

"The left side panel on the grip is a transparent polymer," Kusunoki continues after collecting themselves, "so you can see how many rounds are left. The cartridge is some sort of eleven point four millimetre thing, basically a rimless four-five-five Wilkinson."

They stand silent behind their selection of handguns. You glance at Shiragiku:

"Anything here that strikes you as difficult?"

"Tachibana, you wound me," he says, pouting shamelessly.

"Maybe I should strike you as difficult?" you grumble. "Is there anything here that we couldn't manufacture?"

"I'd have to take them apart to see how they're made, of course, but I can't imagine there's anything going on in these guns that couldn't be made by hand or on a lathe."

"Getting rounds to feed correctly from magazines is not unproblematic." Yadake observes. "I'm not saying to make a revolver but it's something to be aware of, especially with rimmed rounds, in fact, the taper on the…"

You ignore him for a moment: "Any other thoughts?"

"Well, if it's an Army and Navy pistol, maybe some kind of feature to let it shoot open doors? For boarding actions?" Shiragiku says.

"With a pistol round? Even if we gave Yadake a hundred years, I don't think you could do it with anything smaller than a rifle round." says Kusunoki.

"Try me!" he says defiantly. "Three weeks and I'll take a door off its hinges and a shoulder out of its socket."

Kashiwa has been thinking while you banter: "Shotgun round in the centre of a revolver. Manassas had one, years back. Stupid idea, but maybe does the hand-to-hand requirement. And doors."

"And the eight shot requirement," puts in Kusunoki, "Seven around the cylinder and one in the middle is eight."

"Didn't that Wilkinson-whatsit automatic revolver have eight in the cylinder?" Shiragiku asks. "So it'd be nine."

"The one I was thinking of had nine and the shotgun." Kashiwa notes.

You tune them out. Thoughts about the pistol had been swirling around your head for the last few days, but now they're finally starting to coalesce.

What form do your ideas take?
[ ] Revolver
[ ] 9mm Type 33
[ ] Common Calibre - Write In:​
[ ] Automatic
[ ] Common Calibre - Write In:​
[ ] Write In: Your terrifying bullshit or obscure Forgotten Weapons video​
 
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[X] interesting!

[X] Automatic
-[X] Common Calibre - Write In: 9x23mm Palten
 
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Technical Notes, Pt. 3
Type 33 Revolver
The six-shot Year Miwa 33 revolver is the current service revolver. It combines many of the best features of Europan designs with excellent local workmanship, including a Wilkinson-style top break action with automatic ejection of empty casings, and a side plate that opens up for easy maintenance and repair. It's compact, and the 9x23 mm Type 33 round is not too hard on your wrist. The only downside is that it can only be fired double-action, which makes for a heavy trigger pull.

Wilkinson Mk.IV Revolver
The Wilkinson revolvers are the standard against which all other revolvers are measured. It is a top break action that automatically ejects spent casings, allowing the cylinder to be rapidly reloaded, and it can be fired both single and double action. The manufacture is excellent and every mechanism is smooth to operate. Unfortunately, at 1.1 kg it's heavy and it fires a massive .455 caliber round.

Wilkinson-Hall Model 1902 Automatic Revolver
This peculiar variation upon the Wilkinson revolver design allows the upper half of the frame, with the barrel and cylinder, to slide back when recoiling. This cocks the hammer, and a cam track rotates the cylinder so a new round is in line with the barrel. A spring then pushes the upper half back into position. This removes the need to manually cock the hammer between each shot, which allows this revolver to be fired as rapidly as any self-loading pistol. It's an ingenious design, but it comes at a cost of an extra 120 grams over a regular Wilkinson revolver. Between the extra weight and the recoil spring spreading out the shot impulse, it's also very gentle to fire. The cylinder has been drilled with eight chambers that each hold a round of 9 mm automatic.

Cochrane Model 1904 Pocket Hammerless
Her Imperial Highness was given one of these as a gift and Imperial Matchlocks are now the official supplier of this handgun in Akitsukuni. It's a Clark design with a sliding upper half and a detachable magazine that holds 8 rounds of 7.65x17 mm Clark. Despite the name it has a hammer, but it's covered up to prevent it from snagging or bumping. It's small, lightweight, compact, gentle to fire, and well made. If you could afford to spend 100 yen on a handgun, you'd definitely get one.

Palten-Werke Model 1911
This handgun was originally designed as an entry in the Vyborg K.u.K's pistol trials and after failing to get adopted Palten-Werke offered it to several other nations. It was well received in Lusania-Carvale, where it was adopted almost immediately. Kusunoki says they found it in a Carvalian import goods store. It's a similar design to Moses Clark's model 1902 military pistol, with a Clark-style slide and the magazine contained in the grip, but where the 1902 requires removing and replacing the magazine, the 1911 is reloaded with 8-round stripper clips. It's a very nice pistol, but at 1.2 kg it's massive. While holding it in your outstretched arm is a challenge, the weight makes the recoil from the 9x23 mm Palten round surprisingly gentle.

Wilde Model 1907
The Wilde Automatic Pistol Model 1907 is a design closely related to the Pocket Hammerless: it fires the same 7.65x17 mm Clark cartridge, it uses a Clark-style slide, and the weight is about the same. What sets this pistol apart is the detachable magazine: it holds the round staggered left and right in a W pattern instead of a straight line, allowing ten rounds to be stored in short grip. It's two more than the Pocket Hammerless, and three to four more than most automatics. You only got to handle it hands on for a short while, but you've been impressed with the magazine design ever since you first read about it.

Blanc-Streep Automatic Pistol
The Blanc-Streep automatic pistol has several novel features that bridge the gap between revolvers and self-loaders. It has a lever beneath the trigger that chambers a round and cocks the hammer, where all other automatic pistols you know about require using both hands. A transparent panel in the grip allows you to inspect the number of rounds left in the magazine. It even has a detachable magazine in the grip that holds ten rounds of .45 ACP! Unfortunately the pistol is fairly heavy at 1.1 kg loaded, the grip is bulky and difficult to get your hand around, and you had several malfunctions while test-firing it.

AEP Model 1908
The AEP 1908 is a competitor to the Katzen P96 pistol and at a glance it can be difficult to tell the two apart. They both use the same design with a magazine forward of the trigger, and a short recoil mechanism built into the frame that unlocks a bolt that cocks the hammer when it cycles backwards. It's a very conventional handgun; what everyone thinks of when you say 'automatic pistol'. The AEP distinguishes itself with a slightly more comfortable grip, by allowing the magazine to be removed and replaced, and by firing the 9 mm Largo cartridge. Unfortunately, the magazine only holds six rounds.
 
-[X] Common Calibre - Write In: 9x23mm
Is that 9mm Largo or 9mm Palten that you want?

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Gunsmith Katsumi - Akitsukuni Arms Design Quest Original

Akitsukuni, a nation not unlike late Meiji Japan, is flexing its imperial ambitions and needs modern firearms to compete with the Great Powers. It is an exciting time to be a firearms designer. You are Tachibana Katsumi. You work for an institutionally sexist country, in a tiny gun shop that...

Reminder for everyone of the common calibres.
 
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[X] Automatic
-[X] Common Calibre - Write In: 7.63 Katzen

EDIT: Changed caliber.
 
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[X] Write In: 6 o'clock barrel self-loading revolver, 8 round cylinder with a central shotgun cylinder.
-[X] Common Calibre - Write In: 9mm Clark Long
 
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[X] Automatic
-[X] Common Calibre - Write In: 7.63 Katzen

Assuming that 7.62x25mm Mauser is still a thing here.
 
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[X] Automatic
[X] Common Calibre - Write In: Vyborg 8mm

If the Navy wants a bullet dispenser, this is good! We're a gunmaker and a good action designer, we make bullet dispensers. If the army wants to hit someone over the head with it, that just means accepting more weight for more firepower is a 'feature'.

My weird idea is going with 8mm (our Roth-Steyr) because it's narrower diameter and that lets us stuff it into a magazine more effectively, without being .32 ACP equivalent and the associated energy shortfall. Maybe we want to go totally nuts and double stack it, who knows, it's a heady time! If the navy wants more bullets, go for it, let's see if we can't make the 8 round mark look like a quaint throwback. 7.63 Mauser is actually about the same diameter as 9mm rounds at the base.

I feel like a slightly smaller, more manageable cartridge gives us more options with design.

Alternately I've been working on a bottom cylinder autorevolver mechanism that I'm reasonably sure works without being a horrifying clockwork abomination like the relevant mateba.
 
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[X] Write In: Automatic revolver, 8 round cylinder with underbarrel shotgun cylinder.
-[X] 9mm Type 33

Automatic revolver or bust! Also we need the safety to either be on both sides of the handgrip or top-mounted.
 
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