Gundam SEED Rebuild - Time Travel Fix-it Quest

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Scheduled vote count started by TurbojetTakeoff on Feb 25, 2024 at 12:26 AM, finished with 96 posts and 12 votes.

  • [X] Plan - I'll Steal Your Suit, Athrun
    - [X] Ask for help from Murrue Ramius: Announce your presence. Knowing Captain Ramius, she probably would not kill you on sight. Probably.
    -- [X] Introduce yourself as an Orb Official: Immediately inform Ramius that the assailants are ZAFT's elite Le Creuset team, here to steal the G-Weapons. Admit that Orb's Morgenroete also has a top-secret project being worked on in the colony, leeching off the G-Project data, that you are hoping to protect.
    - [X] Ask Kira to Stay with Murrue Ramius: Tell Kira that his old friend Athrun Zala is part of the strike force imminently about to storm the factory and steal the suits. If he wants first-hand proof, he can stay near Ramius and see for himself while Cagalli joins the fight. But if he's too scared, he should just hide with everyone else in the shelters.
    - [X] Get near GAT-X303 Aegis: You need to get on a mobile suit ASAP. And there may be a chance to get on the Aegis to deny ZAFT the suit. [Martial DC - Medium, then Martial VC varies - Difficult]
    -- [X] Announce your Intention: Declare that Athrun Zala, son of PLANT Defense Chairman Patrick Zala, is personally coming to steal the Aegis and that you are going to defend it from him. Suggest the defenders use the cockpit as a foxhole.
    [X] The Cagalli Handbook - Chapter 1: Yell at them
    - [X] Ask for help from Complain/browbeat Murrue Ramius into submission: Announce your presence. Knowing Captain Ramius, she probably would not kill you on sight. Probably. [Martial DC - Easy, then Diplomacy DC varies - Easy]
    -- [X] Introduce yourself as a pissed-off Orb Official: Tell Murrue that you are a fairly important official/dignitary, who is very angry finding out about a certain deal EA made with the Sahaku family behind Orb's back yesterday and about the ZAFT task force outside the unarmed colony.
    - [X] Ask Kira to Stay with Murrue Ramius: While Kira would not take any active fighting actions, you may be able to convince him to take defensive choices [Diplomacy DC varies - Easy to Difficult]
    -- [X] Give Kira the Hard drive with the Morgenröte OS: Give Kira some homework
    -- [X] Tell them both to get into the Strike, as GINNs are heading straight into the colony: Ready or not here they come. The EA detachment of Moebius Mobile Armors are currently being slaughtered outside the colony.
    - [X] Get near GAT-X303 Aegis: You need to get on a mobile suit ASAP. And there may be a chance to get on the Aegis to deny ZAFT the suit. [Martial DC - Medium, then Martial VC varies - Difficult]
    -- [X] Get Demand Permission First: I'm getting into this mobile suit and defending this colony from its most likely destruction -- Cagalli the calm
    [X] Plan: Diplomat
    -[X] Ask for help from Murrue Ramius:
    -- [X] Orb Official
    ---[X] Say your a whistleblower that came to check on this project. Convince her your here to temporarily join forces to keep the G weapons out of Zafts hands. The best way is to pilot them out.
    -[X] Stay with Murrue Ramius:
    --[X] Convince Kira it's safer with Ramius.
    --[X] Convince Ramius to babysit him to avoid crossfire while Cagalli goes for the Aegis and to see if he can make moving it easier while you go for the Aegis to keep it out of Zafts hands.
    -[X] Get near GAT-X303 Aegis
    --[X] Announce your Intention
    ---[X] Announce the plan to keep it out of Zafts hands and to use them to protect the colony.
    [X] The Cagalli Handbook - Chapter 1: Yell at them(Revised)
    - [X] Ask for help from Complain/browbeat Murrue Ramius into submission: Announce your presence. Knowing Captain Ramius, she probably would not kill you on sight. Probably. [Martial DC - Easy, then Diplomacy DC varies - Easy]
    -- [X] Introduce yourself as a pissed-off Orb Noble: Tell Murrue that you are a fairly important dignitary, who is very angry finding out about a certain deal EA made with the Sahaku family behind Orb's back yesterday and about the ZAFT task force outside the unarmed colony.
    - [X] Ask Kira to Stay with Murrue Ramius: While Kira would not take any active fighting actions, you may be able to convince him to take defensive choices [Diplomacy DC varies - Easy to Difficult]
    -- [X] Give Kira the Hard drive with the Morgenröte OS: Give Kira the drive: You are most likely going to need it more than me after all: the professor uploaded your work onto the mobile suits... at least the work you were already doing for him. This being a more complete product, by actual paid developers at Morgenröte. Also, keep the hard drive safe as it's most likely evidence of Morgenröte's downpayment for this whole mess.
    -- [X] Tell them both to get into the Strike, as GINNs are heading straight into the colony: Ready or not here they come. The EA detachment of Moebius Mobile Armors is currently being slaughtered outside the colony and GINN will most likely breach the walls in about 5-10 minutes. I don't think you're going to reach the Archangel on the road anyway. Kira try to get it moving, its OS is unfinished and we're going to need to find cover right quick as the strike is basically unarmed.
    - [X] Get near GAT-X303 Aegis: You need to get on a mobile suit ASAP. And there may be a chance to get on the Aegis to deny ZAFT the suit. [Martial DC - Medium, then Martial VC varies - Difficult]
    -- [X] Get Demand Permission First: I'm getting into this mobile suit and defending this colony from its most likely destruction -- Cagalli the calm
 
???

I don't get it, is there is some problem with Kira's parents living with him up in Heliopolis, as opposed to just irresponsibly dumping him in space long-term while enjoying sandy beaches off the coast of Yalafath?

I always assumed Kira's house there was their family's permanent residence, if the parents were away during the attack it would've been a temporary thing.
Not necessarily a problem for this quest. I've been under the impression that it's similar to sending your kid to an overseas college. And for Kira's case it's more like a different city in the same country.

But anyway I'm just going to say Mr and Mrs Yamato are not on Heliopolis for this quest.

... Turbo... There isn't a reference/source... I'm going to rewatch Seed a bit and hope for the best. I do not want a confrontation with our aunt T-minus 3 days ago.
It is possible that Aunt Caridad would accompany Kira to meet Cagalli as soon as she hear the name Hibiki, probably decided by a hidden dice roll or something. She might not call out anything but would closely observe everything.

But since in this quest, she's on Earth and apparently didn't tell Kira anything even though Kira could tell his mum is being weird. :V
 
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Scheduled vote count started by TurbojetTakeoff on Feb 25, 2024 at 12:26 AM, finished with 96 posts and 12 votes.

  • [X] Plan - I'll Steal Your Suit, Athrun
    - [X] Ask for help from Murrue Ramius: Announce your presence. Knowing Captain Ramius, she probably would not kill you on sight. Probably.
    -- [X] Introduce yourself as an Orb Official: Immediately inform Ramius that the assailants are ZAFT's elite Le Creuset team, here to steal the G-Weapons. Admit that Orb's Morgenroete also has a top-secret project being worked on in the colony, leeching off the G-Project data, that you are hoping to protect.
    - [X] Ask Kira to Stay with Murrue Ramius: Tell Kira that his old friend Athrun Zala is part of the strike force imminently about to storm the factory and steal the suits. If he wants first-hand proof, he can stay near Ramius and see for himself while Cagalli joins the fight. But if he's too scared, he should just hide with everyone else in the shelters.
    - [X] Get near GAT-X303 Aegis: You need to get on a mobile suit ASAP. And there may be a chance to get on the Aegis to deny ZAFT the suit. [Martial DC - Medium, then Martial VC varies - Difficult]
    -- [X] Announce your Intention: Declare that Athrun Zala, son of PLANT Defense Chairman Patrick Zala, is personally coming to steal the Aegis and that you are going to defend it from him. Suggest the defenders use the cockpit as a foxhole.
    [X] The Cagalli Handbook - Chapter 1: Yell at them
    - [X] Ask for help from Complain/browbeat Murrue Ramius into submission: Announce your presence. Knowing Captain Ramius, she probably would not kill you on sight. Probably. [Martial DC - Easy, then Diplomacy DC varies - Easy]
    -- [X] Introduce yourself as a pissed-off Orb Official: Tell Murrue that you are a fairly important official/dignitary, who is very angry finding out about a certain deal EA made with the Sahaku family behind Orb's back yesterday and about the ZAFT task force outside the unarmed colony.
    - [X] Ask Kira to Stay with Murrue Ramius: While Kira would not take any active fighting actions, you may be able to convince him to take defensive choices [Diplomacy DC varies - Easy to Difficult]
    -- [X] Give Kira the Hard drive with the Morgenröte OS: Give Kira some homework
    -- [X] Tell them both to get into the Strike, as GINNs are heading straight into the colony: Ready or not here they come. The EA detachment of Moebius Mobile Armors are currently being slaughtered outside the colony.
    - [X] Get near GAT-X303 Aegis: You need to get on a mobile suit ASAP. And there may be a chance to get on the Aegis to deny ZAFT the suit. [Martial DC - Medium, then Martial VC varies - Difficult]
    -- [X] Get Demand Permission First: I'm getting into this mobile suit and defending this colony from its most likely destruction -- Cagalli the calm
    [X] Plan: Diplomat
    -[X] Ask for help from Murrue Ramius:
    -- [X] Orb Official
    ---[X] Say your a whistleblower that came to check on this project. Convince her your here to temporarily join forces to keep the G weapons out of Zafts hands. The best way is to pilot them out.
    -[X] Stay with Murrue Ramius:
    --[X] Convince Kira it's safer with Ramius.
    --[X] Convince Ramius to babysit him to avoid crossfire while Cagalli goes for the Aegis and to see if he can make moving it easier while you go for the Aegis to keep it out of Zafts hands.
    -[X] Get near GAT-X303 Aegis
    --[X] Announce your Intention
    ---[X] Announce the plan to keep it out of Zafts hands and to use them to protect the colony.
    [X] The Cagalli Handbook - Chapter 1: Yell at them(Revised)
    - [X] Ask for help from Complain/browbeat Murrue Ramius into submission: Announce your presence. Knowing Captain Ramius, she probably would not kill you on sight. Probably. [Martial DC - Easy, then Diplomacy DC varies - Easy]
    -- [X] Introduce yourself as a pissed-off Orb Noble: Tell Murrue that you are a fairly important dignitary, who is very angry finding out about a certain deal EA made with the Sahaku family behind Orb's back yesterday and about the ZAFT task force outside the unarmed colony.
    - [X] Ask Kira to Stay with Murrue Ramius: While Kira would not take any active fighting actions, you may be able to convince him to take defensive choices [Diplomacy DC varies - Easy to Difficult]
    -- [X] Give Kira the Hard drive with the Morgenröte OS: Give Kira the drive: You are most likely going to need it more than me after all: the professor uploaded your work onto the mobile suits... at least the work you were already doing for him. This being a more complete product, by actual paid developers at Morgenröte. Also, keep the hard drive safe as it's most likely evidence of Morgenröte's downpayment for this whole mess.
    -- [X] Tell them both to get into the Strike, as GINNs are heading straight into the colony: Ready or not here they come. The EA detachment of Moebius Mobile Armors is currently being slaughtered outside the colony and GINN will most likely breach the walls in about 5-10 minutes. I don't think you're going to reach the Archangel on the road anyway. Kira try to get it moving, its OS is unfinished and we're going to need to find cover right quick as the strike is basically unarmed.
    - [X] Get near GAT-X303 Aegis: You need to get on a mobile suit ASAP. And there may be a chance to get on the Aegis to deny ZAFT the suit. [Martial DC - Medium, then Martial VC varies - Difficult]
    -- [X] Get Demand Permission First: I'm getting into this mobile suit and defending this colony from its most likely destruction -- Cagalli the calm

Vote's closed.

Please roll 2d50 for: Introduction to Murrue Ramius - Martial DC 20/25

Please roll 2d50 for: Introduction to Murrue Ramius - Diplomacy DC 22/26/29

Please roll 2d50 for: Convince Kira Yamato - Diplomacy DC 25/31

Please roll 2d50 for: Intention to Aegis - Diplomacy 26/29/32 <second batch of DCs/VCs after this roll>

Please specify which one you intended to roll or else it would be invalid.
Also, one person for one roll please, at least for now.
 
Well, at least it is literally impossible to fail the Ramius rolls, just a matter of what degree of success. Pretty decent odds on the Aegis Intention one too - the real trouble is going to be in the actual versus check fighting Athrun and I assume the difficulty of that one will depend on how successful the intention check was.

Rolling Martial check for Ramius (Result: 3 + 44 = 47, full success):
PistachioCookies threw 2 50-faced dice. Reason: Introduction to Murrue Ramius Total: 47
3 3 44 44
 
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Goddamn we rolling shit!

THis is for diplomacy with Murrue.

Omg, we have 25.9 for intention with aegis...we're fucked.

30.4 for Kira...ill take but seriously these DCs

At least i rolled good for murrue! 29.6!
Psyraptor threw 2 50-faced dice. Total: 76
50 50 26 26
Psyraptor threw 2 50-faced dice. Reason: Convince Kira Total: 84
34 34 50 50
 
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Sucks about the Aegis, but we didn't try at all then Athrun would get the suit by default, so really we're no worse off than in canon.

And we weren't guaranteed to pass the versus check against Athrun either and that one was labeled to be harder than even just approaching the Aegis.

Though depending on what happens, if we have enough points to Awaken Athrun himself, it might not matter.

.....Do we know anyone else currently in the colony other than Kira, Sahaku and Mu who might be able to pilot a mobile suit? I have a feeling Mu would still do better in the Moebius Zero than giving him the Blue Frame.
 
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Good point.

If we can't awaken Athrun, the best bet for keeping the colony intact might be to not just commandeer the Astrays, but also try for awakening Kira in addition. After this battle, the amount of points we need to do it might drop like the cost of the Astrays did, especially after he sees Athrun.

With no-holds-barred Kira in the Strike and 3 Astrays, it might be possible to take down Le Creuset's team efficiently enough to prevent the colony going down. More so if we can shift the location of battle to outside the colony, though how easy it would be to convince Ramius to try charging out into of Heliopolis and fighting the Vesalius directly is a different story. Definitely easier with 4 suits than 1 though.

....In fact, what do you think the odds are of Le Creuset backing off if we were able to awaken Kira before he fights Miguel and then demolish him so badly, we manage to take the guy hostage? Anyone think that if Kira can pull that off before Athrun runs off with the Aegis, he might be able to convince Athrun to trade the Aegis in exchange for Miguel?
 
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Well, at least it is literally impossible to fail the Ramius rolls, just a matter of what degree of success. Pretty decent odds on the Aegis Intention one too - the real trouble is going to be in the actual versus check fighting Athrun and I assume the difficulty of that one will depend on how successful the intention check was.

Rolling Martial check for Ramius (Result: 3 + 44 = 47, full success):

Alright. Aegis!

I have failed!!

Goddamn we rolling shit!

THis is for diplomacy with Murrue.

Omg, we have 25.9 for intention with aegis...we're fucked.

30.4 for Kira...ill take but seriously these DCs

At least i rolled good for murrue! 29.6!

well I am not really a fan of the aegis but still would of been better if we had it

and guess time for kira's roll then

First Batch DC Results
Introduction to Murrue Ramius
- Martial DC 20/25
Rolled 2d50 => 47; Martial DC: 20 +(1) +(0.5 +1) + 4.7 = 27.2 > 25; Two degrees of success!

Introduction to Murrue Ramius - Diplomacy DC 22/26/29
Rolled 2d50 => 76; Diplomacy DC: 21 +(1) + 7.6 = 29.6 > 29; Three degrees of success!

Convince Kira Yamato - Diplomacy DC 25/31
Rolled 2d50 => 51; Diplomacy DC: 21 +(1) + 5.1 = 27.1 > 25; One degree of success.

Intention to Aegis - Diplomacy DC 26/29/32
Rolled 2d50 => 39; Diplomacy DC: 21 +(1) + 3.9 = 25.9 < 26; One degree of failure.
=> Difficulty increased. Cagalli intends to Martial approach backup as the plan indicated declaration rather than seeking permission.


Second Batch of DCs/VCs
Please specify which one you intended to roll. Again, one person for one roll please (refreshed - First Batch rollers may roll one again if you'd like).

Please roll 2d50 for: Intention to Aegis - Martial DC 25/28

Please roll 2d50 for: Defending Mobile Suit, Cagalli Yula Athha - Martial VC [Base = 20 +(1) +(0.5 +1)]

Please roll 2d50 for: Capturing Mobile Suit, Athrun Zala - Martial VC [Base = 25]
 
lets have a go!

well thats at least one degree of success

edit Actually no! thats JUST BARELY 2 degrees 22.5 +5.6 = 28.1
Psyraptor threw 2 50-faced dice. Reason: Intention to Aegis Total: 56
34 34 22 22
 
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