[X] Confer with the rest of your team. You need to talk about what just went down.
Gundam Crucible - [An AU Universal Century Quest]
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[X] Confer with the rest of your team. You need to talk about what just went down.
I figure its about half her team and half being more careful with Sicilia than she is with herself
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[X] Confer with the rest of your team. You need to talk about what just went down.
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We um, haven't acquired evidence of him actually contributing to the battles in a beneficial manner, and the one time he actually fought beside Cybele, he was infact a complete liability that cost her a much needed advantage against a superiorly armed foe, and at no point damaged a single opponent mobile suit. Seeing him in his own series, with the superior Xi Gundam, I can confidently say that his performance is lacking.
Umm, no, by everything Canon and Quest I've seen, he really can't. He can gain experience and levelheadedness to stay out of battles he isn't good enough for, but even as a newtype, his demonstrated ceiling of skill without something like the Xi or Overdeveloped gundam like the Original Gundam vs Zaku II, leaves him unfit for any elite team. Maybe some day he'll be good enough to change Pukky Lukky's diapers, but he'll always be one of the better regular pilots, never an ace.
Also, found out the likely Candidate for the Penelope's Pilot.
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Yea I imagine Sicilia getting hurt will make her much more eager to work on fixing any flaws pointed out.
Er I said his performance was poor? Like the latest instance is pretty much Newtype rage from all the death, and a lack of extensive training compared to canon Hathaway, which leads him to trying to "help". Well not that it would've made much of a difference as what saved them is part the Penelope's Pilot being inexperienced, part Sicilia getting enraged allowing her to keep LB in the game, and mostly a couple of million civilians going up with a colony to end a battle that was pretty long odds even before Hathaway did what he did.
In regards to canon Hathaway I highly doubt whomever was supporting Hathaway in training him to lead MAFTY got him mentoring by aces to push his limits as the son of Bright Noa getting that would draw unwanted* attention, and that is rather crucial as once Hathaway got a 5th gen MS it became crutch that cares not for skill gap unless the opposition is in 5th generation, which is a problem when the Federation will almost certainly be willing to throw resources** at Lane Aim to insure he can hone his skills using what combat data they have on the Xi in preparation for a rematch in subsequent movies.
That is certainly plausible, and will likely result in Lane Aim being on the receiving end of a Bright slap for not "manning" up to finish Bellerophon as he objectively was winning the fight.
*Not that this helped all that much when Hathaway decided to take the shuttle carrying cabinet members he was planning to murder, and it got hijacked. Something that Hathaway came to rue when it screwed over his comrades.
**This matters a whole lot when your pilot can be ordered to hit the simulations, and if someone wanted to be realistic the Federation would just have Anaheim rush order a bunch of Xi simulators to throw their aces to pit against Lane Aim.
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Remember that Sicilia got one of his beam cannons at the very start of her newtype aura attack, and the damage only kept mounting up. I doubt he had enough Heavy weaponry left at that point to take on Cascadia team, Broadway survivors & the HKDF with his own Newtype aura having faded, let alone take out the Bellerophon.
He probably is going to get chewed out though, more for the amount of damage the Penelope took and the fact that he did so poorly against a second or at best third gen Gundam, especially if they realize that it was missing parts for configuration from earlier battles. You lost to an under armed and ill prepared mobile suit several decades out of date, is not what you want your superiors thinking about when judging your performance and the state of your completely recked, limited replacement parts mobile suit.
@TheBleachDoctor hey Rosenheim and the other Zeon SpecOps who's respect we gained in Jupiter mission weren't on the Broadway, right?
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Fair enough I was thinking he can always just loiter until the Bellerophon tried to launch to do a repeat, and there wasn't a whole lot we could do as 5th gen MS have excellent endurance for flight time.
Hm. He basically got tunnel vision, and lost track of his mission being the elimination of the carriers not fighting a duel that only further damaged a MS the Federation isn't going to get spare parts from Anaheim. The issue is less the damage, and more the incomplete primary mission that is the serious as that is actually a pretty bad look for the Federation.
Because ignoring the obvious morality issue it is one thing for a bunch of civilians to be killed annihilating the LB/Zeon forces such that at least Hong Kong is cowed into line, and it an entirely other for your 5th gen MS to publicly be fought off in a manner that no amount of press blackout can stop as word of mouth will talk about the unnatural light. Factor in tens of thousands of casualties tending to make a whole lot of people angry, and you've a recipe where the Federation is dealing with groups like MAFTY rapidly getting a whole lot more support.
It is nice to see Peche after the events of Engage being present here.
EDIT: It will be funny to see an omake featuring Aerial due to being present in the game. lol
EDIT EDIT: [X] Find Hathaway. Slap Hathaway.
EDIT: It will be funny to see an omake featuring Aerial due to being present in the game. lol
EDIT EDIT: [X] Find Hathaway. Slap Hathaway.
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[X] Find Hathaway. Slap Hathaway.
Emotional teenagers conflict go! Bonus points if he cries out and says that his Dad never even hit him. That said...Hathaway's presence really didn't change much other than the team being launched later than if we'd sortied on our own prerogative to bring him back. Still, he endangered the lives of everyone on the Bellerophon by leaving the ship and crew sent to rescue and protect him. It could be argued that choosing to launch and fight helped mitigate the worse of the fighting, but...well, there were no optimal options here.
Also, is anyone else starting to feel like Cybelle is just like the decoy protagonist to Sicilia? Like Kamina to Simon? Their names even both start with S!
Emotional teenagers conflict go! Bonus points if he cries out and says that his Dad never even hit him. That said...Hathaway's presence really didn't change much other than the team being launched later than if we'd sortied on our own prerogative to bring him back. Still, he endangered the lives of everyone on the Bellerophon by leaving the ship and crew sent to rescue and protect him. It could be argued that choosing to launch and fight helped mitigate the worse of the fighting, but...well, there were no optimal options here.
Also, is anyone else starting to feel like Cybelle is just like the decoy protagonist to Sicilia? Like Kamina to Simon? Their names even both start with S!
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You will not see the Aerial.
You may, however, see the incredibly cursed Ball-Boy and Zack-Pod.
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Okay, things seem to be going in a clear direction.
Votes locked.
Slightly sad that you won't slap Hathaway, but it is what it is.
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Actually it's more his actions during the battle than leaving the ship that make him deserving of a slap.
Latched to his back as she was, Cybele was safe from retaliation, and being a rookie, Lame was distracted enough that her allies could have turned the table on his support and then group up on the Penelope when the moment was ideal.
But Hathaway, after all the trouble Cybele went through to get him out of harms way, comes back into the Penelope's Range, forcing Cybele to sacrifice her advantage to save his sorry ass, putting herin the unenviable position of frying civs with her boosters, or tanking the shot with her I field. The battle would honestly have been much easier for cybele if he'd done anything else.
Fed Commander: "Nonsense. Some little girl being the protagonist of a gundam series? Clearly the Old Type hiding in the background is the true hero of the story! I would know, I crossed blades with him.
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It didn't seem that way to me. Like, the entire team was still getting their suits ready before Cybele waz called by the captain about what she was doing. They weren't even ready when Hathaway launched ahead of them without permission. I'd argue that the effect of the vote was far less about what happened in the update, and more about how Cybele initially reacted to the situation presented to her.
She can sense his inherent potential and raw animal magnetism. I look forward to her thinking they're in some kind of twisted romance and declaring her undying love before ramming herself into a colony.
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TheBleachDoctor
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That NITRO system did a number on her, huh?
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I poke fun, but I really do feel bad for her. The Federation is on the darker side of this grey-on-grey conflict, but she's using a control system that goes over her mind like a cheese grater. It doesn't matter how this war turns out, she's already lost.
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Oh, that reminds me. Did the federation take the time to rig the Penelope to explode incase Lame Aim defected or was captured?(kek)
Also, Rosenheim of Zeon SpecOps, she still alive or was she on the Broadway when it went up? Or rather came down.
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Nah, they just got him addicted to a gacha game and withhold his weekly 10x roll allowance if he doesn't obey. /s
Rosenheim is assigned to a different ship. The Zeon Republic has more than a few SpecOps teams.
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Wonder if anyone recorded that pilot writing off everyone in Hong Kong after we warned him about the civilians?
Wonder if anyone recorded that pilot writing off everyone in Hong Kong after we warned him about the civilians?
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Every mobile suit by standard should have a cockpit data recorder. So almost certainly the recording will be there.
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I meant like, a news crew, or someone on their phone, but that's good too. Could probably put that out for a propaganda win, at least.
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Mobile Suit Pilot writes off killing an entire city because of their beliefs isn't exactly news, sad as it is to say. We just had an entire colony burn up because one, admittedly rogue and exceptionally powerful in one of the most powerful MSs ever, Newtype got fed up with how things were. Still, if there was any usable footage or audio of our interaction with the Fed pilot making that available to the media or public would force the Federation to play the PR game hard. But they'd probably even be able to twist it to their tune pretty easily too. "This is the unfortunate truth of all Newtypes, they are inherently unstable and dangerous to the public, which is why the pilot will be disciplined and put under further observation and training to better control himself and why we believe that all Newtypes need to undergo the same treatment."
Say the words, no matter how true or even how much the speaker themselves believe it, and someone will.
Say the words, no matter how true or even how much the speaker themselves believe it, and someone will.