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Glory of the Emerald Empire (Legend of the 5 Rings Quest)

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[x] Go with the Ashigaru. Wake up the other three sleeping.
-[x] Inform them than you have Yasuki-sama's permittion to bring two of them to assist you in dealing with a group of ronin, in order to retrieve some stolen object. There's no honor in lying, but if posible, try to not give a lot of details.
--[x] If is absolutely neccesary, inform them that you have Yasuki-sama's trust in your word as well.
[x] Let them a moment to prepare themselves, and to decide who will come with you. In the meanwhile, aproach the kitsune.
-[x] Inform her that you got the approvation of your lord, and he even provided you with some assist.
-[x] "Once we're ready, please lead us."
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So, it's decent to begin with. I'm curious as to why you're trying not to give a lot of details. I suspect you have some reasoning, but I'm missing it. I figure we wouldn't want to spring it on them while we're haranguing the ronin - otherwise, their responses might give us away. Let's suppose we tell them know something like the following:

"A spirit ally of the Crab has had something precious to them stolen, and has requested our aid. I intend to go retrieve it from the pack of ronin currently guarding it. Yasuki-sama has given me leave to take two of you to assist me in this matter. Hopefully I can bluff them a bit, and get it without bloodshed, but if the swords come out, I will need you to watch my back."

That tells them that the better they can back our bluff, the less likely they are to see combat, but that whoever comes with us needs to be able to fight, just in case (and would be better as a defensive fighter, rather than an offensive fighter). It also tells them that spirits are involved, and that we have Goro's blessing. This helps them set their motivation, and also helps them pick out which among them can best assist us.

...and yes. In retrospect, we should have taken time to get to know the ashigaru. Let us both fix this issue as soon as practical, and take this as a lesson for the future.

I also think we should include something about asking the ashigaru who they are and what they're good at while en route. We have no need for stealth, and knowing a bit more about them will likely help us refine our strategy before we arrive.
 
To be honest, I'm still afraid at giving to much info about this quest to the ashigaru, because I don't know the true extent of the meaning of "being dangerously close to breaking the laws the binds me", to quote the fox spirit.

But the actual wording to convince the ashigaru in asisting Sosuke is pretty convincing, so yeah, once more, gonna edit my vote.
 
Refer to her as "the wife of a monk who may have been murdered by these ronin" instead of anything involving her being a spirit when we talk to the ashigaru. It's true, it's likely to make them ready to smack around some ronin instead of leaving them worried about spirits getting involved in their lives, and since it's referring to her human identity it shouldn't make it harder for the kitsune to stick around in Ningen-do.
 
Just to let you all know, in case I didn't make it clear because the Kitsune was being a bit vague by necessity, this fox spirit married the monk when she was young. She has four tails now, and Kitsune only gain tails as they grow older. So the murder of her husband happened quite a while ago. These Ronin did not murder the Kitsune's husband, but merely stole the last thing she has to remember him by and hopefully use to find him again.
 
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Ah, okay. That changes things a bit. Still thieves, but not murderers. In that case, tell the ashigaru "monk's widow had her last keepsake of him stolen, it's probably a nemuranai, she asked for help getting it back from the ronin what took it".
 
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The Kitsune is quite for a time, her lips drawn back in the approximation of a frown. She seems to be thinking quite fiercely on something. While she's doing that, you stand and slip into some proper clothing. If you're goin to be approaching Yasuki Goro about this, you'll not be doing it in your smallclothes.

"I am only kept from interacting too much with mortals myself," the Kitsune says at last. She seems very uncomfortable. "There is nothing keeping two mortals from conversing on what another has heard…"
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This is a pertinent detail. We can tell the ashigaru pretty much whatever, and it's not going to be a problem for her.

Also, we know for a fact that these ronin are not the samurai that killed her husband, because all of them are dead - she killed them herself.

Noticed a few typos - labeled in red.
 
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They're ashigaru and going to follow our orders. It's their duty to serve us, not to hear everything about what's going on. Do we need to tell them anything about this?

We could just say "We're going to retrieve a stolen trinket from ronin. Hopefully it will be done without a fight, but if not, oh well."

We seriously don't actually need to spread the Kitsune's story around right? We can just tell them the very abridged story here.

[X] "We're going to retrieve a stolen trinket from ronin. Hopefully it can be done without a fight."
 
They don't need to - but telling them will let them be better prepared, mentally, and if we want them to back us up, having them be better prepared is a Good Thing.
 
Prepared for what? We don't know all that much more than they do what we will face.

And I'd rather not tell any more people about this matter than is strictly necessary. Don't want to risk messing things up on the spirit's behalf.
 
Remember than only two of the five ashigaru are awake, and even if we take those two with us, they'll have to wake the other three up for guarding duties.

I also have that issue, but to say it's a ally of the crab, and she requested to retrieve some object of value for her, will suffice. We don't need to get into more details.

And even if they are ashigaru, and as at they must follow our orders, we are CRAB. We treat them with a better attitude as the other clans. Hence why at least we should give them some explanation.
 
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Garlak said:
Prepared for what? We don't know all that much more than they do what we will face.

And I'd rather not tell any more people about this matter than is strictly necessary. Don't want to risk messing things up on the spirit's behalf.
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Prepared for the strategy we'll be using, if nothing else. Also, if you're worried that the spirit is somehow going to get in trouble from us talking with others...

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"I am only kept from interacting too much with mortals myself," the Kitsune says at last. She seems very uncomfortable. "There is nothing keeping two mortals from conversing on what another has heard…"
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If that's not actually the concern, please explain further.

edit: proposed Plan Combo:

[x] Go to the Ashigaru. Wake up the other three sleeping.
-[x] "A spirit ally of the Crab has had something precious to them stolen, and has requested our aid. I intend to go retrieve it from the pack of ronin currently guarding it. Yasuki-sama has given me leave to take two of you to assist me in this matter. Hopefully I can bluff them a bit, and get it without bloodshed, but if the swords come out, I will need you to watch my back."
[x] Let them a moment to prepare themselves, and to decide who will come with you. In the meanwhile, approach the kitsune.
-[x] Inform her that you got the approval of your superior, and he even provided you with some assistance.
-[x] "Once we're ready, please lead us."
[x] While en route, ask the ashigaru for a quick description of their capabilities. Make small adjustments to strategy as appropriate.
[x] Approach the Ronin camp.
[x] Hail the guard, if there is any. If there is not, rouse one of the ronin (probably with our testubo - nudging rather than attacking). Inform them that we are Hiruma Sousuke, here on the business of the Crab Clan and that we wish to speak with their leader.
[x] Inform the leader that a nemuranai (describe the necklace) has been stolen recently, that we and our men have been assigned to retrieve it, and that by speaking with the spirits, we have determined that it lies somewhere within the bounds of the camp. Ask that the ronin leader please provide the nemuranai, as we would not wish to have to charge them with possession of stolen goods.
 
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I have been looking up some of the magical weapons and I'm like got to get them all.
really I want anything with jade in it's name.:p

these are the one that I think are the coolest though.
the Crimson Spear
the jade hand (it burns out taint and makes you immune to it how cool :grin:)
Konbo the fuck you to all magic protection
Chikara even more anti taint
Fukutsu the armour of fuck you taint
or could we get a blade made out of Kuni Crystal it to is fuck you taint materiel.

there is just so much cool stuff and that's just the crab clan can't wait to see the other clans stuff.:)


Edit: [x] Combo Plan
sorry was excited.
 
@paintedspear magic items in rokugan are... not like magic items in D&D. Significant magic items (like the Jade Hand) are treated much more like artifacts than like magical items - you might get one in your life, but if you do, be aware that your life will be warped around it. As far as the Jade Hand goes, even attracting the attention of the bearer of the Jade Hand (or Obsidian Hand) is a life-changing experience. (Try not to attract the attention of the bearer of the obsidian hand.)

As for Fukutsu? No. Mom armor is best armor. We are wearing a fantastically well-crafted suit of Kaiu plate, and I have every intent that we be wearing it when we die (on the battlefield, in the process of slaughtering our way through the hordes of the shadowlands). Also, you are aware of what it takes to have the right to wear Fukutsu, right? Or what it would take to have the right to bear Chikara, even if Amaterasu were willing to let it return to Nigen-do?
 
[x] Combo Plan.

Sirrocco said:
@paintedspear magic items in rokugan are... not like magic items in D&D. Significant magic items (like the Jade Hand) are treated much more like artifacts than like magical items - you might get one in your life, but if you do, be aware that your life will be warped around it. As far as the Jade Hand goes, even attracting the attention of the bearer of the Jade Hand (or Obsidian Hand) is a life-changing experience. (Try not to attract the attention of the bearer of the obsidian hand.)

As for Fukutsu? No. Mom armor is best armor. We are wearing a fantastically well-crafted suit of Kaiu plate, and I have every intent that we be wearing it when we die (on the battlefield, in the process of slaughtering our way through the hordes of the shadowlands). Also, you are aware of what it takes to have the right to wear Fukutsu, right? Or what it would take to have the right to bear Chikara, even if Amaterasu were willing to let it return to Nigen-do?
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I'm not aware, and would like to hear more!
 
Sirrocco has the right of it. Nemuranai, which is what magic items are called in Rokugan, are incredibly rare. There are only about twenty individuals in the entirety of the Empire who can craft them, and they're all pretty much in the employ of the Imperial Family. The most common way that Nemuranai come about are from incredibly well made mundane items that are very old and have been through many experiences with many different wielders. The weight of this history awakens the kami that make up the object, and grants the item supernatural properties.

As such, almost every Nemuranai is unique, and heavily prized by the Clan it originates from. Rokugan isn't a small country. There are more than 20 million people living there, and it has existed for almost 1,300 years. And in that time only a few thousand Nemuranai at most have come into existence. Naturally, they are considered to be incredibly valuable resources and highly prized heirlooms.

If you come across a Nemuranai that belongs to another Clan, you'd best return it to that Clan. Withholding a Clan artifact like that is dishonorable and the grounds for a war, and indeed some Clan conflicts have been started for exactly that reason. So, all in all, magic items are a pretty big deal.

Also, gonna need a few more votes.
 
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GilliamYaeger said:
I'm not aware, and would like to hear more!
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Fukutsu is also known as the Ancestral Armor of the Crab Clan. For the most part, wearing it involves being the Crab Clan Champion (though it's conceivable that he might lend it to someone temporarily under rare circumstances - like if he himself were unable to take the field of battle). Chikara is the Ancestral Sword of the Crab Clan. It's pretty much the same, except that Amaterasu got displeased with the clans a few generations ago, collected up all of the ancestral swords, and had them hidden in another plane of existence. I don't believe that any have been recovered. Oh - and there's basically no chance that we're going to get a non-Hida Crab Clan Champion, for those of you who might have been thinkinng it. The Jade Hand basically overwrites part of your personality - recrafting you to better serve and represent the Jade Sun. (You almost literally become the Jade Sun's hand upon the earth.) You then spend the rest of your life wandering around Rokugan, warping reality around you as you offer people the gifts fo the Jade Sun and occasionally inspire them (possibly inspiring them in battle). Konbo is a *little* less of a big deal - it's just the revered ancestral item of the Hiruma Clan. I don't actually know where it is right now, but if we do happen to come across it at some point and seize it by foce of arms from creatures of the shadowlands, then the appropriate response (assuming that it itself remains untainted) is to pick it up, wield it against our foes, and do our best to survive long enough to return it to the Hiruma Diamyo. The Crimson Spear is wielded by the Oracle of Jade. We probably want him to keep it.

Kuni crystal is potentially doable, but it's rare and valuable, in much the same way that Kaiu armor is rare and valuable. It's the sort of thing we might earn eventually, but aren't likely to see any time soon. The armor we wear has already taken us well into the red on "gifts provided by the clan because you're awesome" - we're going to have to do quite a large number of awesome things before we earn anything more from there.
 
Sirrocco said:
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Plan Combo.
[] Go to the Ashigaru. Wake up the other three sleeping.
-[] "A spirit ally of the Crab has had something precious to them stolen, and has requested our aid. I intend to go retrieve it from the pack of ronin currently guarding it. Yasuki-sama has given me leave to take two of you to assist me in this matter. Hopefully I can bluff them a bit, and get it without bloodshed, but if the swords come out, I will need you to watch my back."
[] Let them a moment to prepare themselves, and to decide who will come with you. In the meanwhile, approach the kitsune.
-[] Inform her that you got the approval of your superior, and he even provided you with some assist.
-[] "Once we're ready, please lead us."
[] While en route, ask the ashigaru for a quick description of their capabilities. Make small adjustments to strategy as appropriate.
(...)
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YES!

Editing vote to add that line.

Thanks Sirrocco, a perfect moment to ask them for that. For real, thanks :D
 
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Sirrocco said:
I don't actually know where it is right now, but if we do happen to come across it at some point and seize it by foce of arms from creatures of the shadowlands, then the appropriate response (assuming that it itself remains untainted) is to pick it up, wield it against our foes
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the page said that it is keeping the tower of fear destroyed at the moment by purifying the tainted ground but I don't know where we are in the timeline

Edit: I know that the magic item are rare and we properly never get one unless we get Ronin one
like the chalice of jade.
 
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paintedspear said:
Edit: I know that the magic item are rare and we properly never get one unless we get Ronin one like the chalice of jade.
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Yes, but... it's more than that. We are not an adventurer. We are a warrior of the Crab Clan. If we did somehow come across one of the two remaining jade goblets, we wouldn't keep it for ourselves. We would give it to our superiors. After all, they'd be able to use it far more effectively than we would.
 
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