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Glory of the Emerald Empire (Legend of the 5 Rings Quest)

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Sirrocco said:
It downplays our meeting with Shinjo Wanli, in a way that she'll recognize (skipping over the fact that we shared a meal with her, talked of many things, were basically her only friendly contact in a sea of disappointment, etc, etc, etc). It does so respectfully, and in a way that saves face for her, so she's unlikely to object, but it does send her a signal that we'd rather she not make a play for us. By comparison, we describe the relationship with Mirumoto Hanabi as being significantly deeper - multiple conversations over a longer period of time and actually fighting beside her in battle. This is essentially telling them both that Hanabi has the home-field advantage - to Hanabi that she can afford to relax a bit, and to Wanli that if she wants to pursue us she's starting at a disadvantageous position. There's more threads that can be picked out of it, but that's the general gist.

In general, though, it encourages Hanabi to relax, and Wanli to not try anything that would make Hanabi unrelax - thus attempting to shut down the Shinjo Wanli route before it really gets underway, and pushing the Mirumoto Hanabi route instead.
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Ah, that makes more sense. I'm more inclined to not go the Hanabi route though, as she's completely insane. Not someone I want Sosuke to have an actual relationship with. Will she cause problems because of this? Yes, but I'm willing to live with that.
 
[x] Give a brief mention of your meeting with Shinjo Wanli.
-[x] "Ah, yes. I have been remiss. Mirumoto-san, permit me to introduce the honorable Shinjo Wanli-san. We met briefly at Kyuden Tonbo, where we were both waiting for permission to enter the Dragon lands. She sought audience with Kitsuki-dono on a matter pertaining to our recent preparations, and I am pleased to have been able to provide her with some small assistance in this thing. Shinjo-san, this is the honorable Mirumoto Hanabi-san. Wehave had a number of interesting conversations, and she has served at my side in battle against the enemies of all that live."

@Winged Knight what does Hanabi looks like? Do you have any picture as an reference or example?
 
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[x] Give a brief mention of your meeting with Shinjo Wanli.
-[x] "Ah, yes. I have been remiss. Mirumoto-san, permit me to introduce the honorable Shinjo Wanli-san. We met briefly at Kyuden Tonbo, where we were both waiting for permission to enter the Dragon lands. She sought audience with Kitsuki-dono on a matter pertaining to our recent preparations, and I am pleased to have been able to provide her with some small assistance in this thing. Shinjo-san, this is the honorable Mirumoto Hanabi-san. Wehave had a number of interesting conversations, and she has served at my side in battle against the enemies of all that live."
 
Hydroplatypus said:
Ah, that makes more sense. I'm more inclined to not go the Hanabi route though, as she's completely insane. Not someone I want Sosuke to have an actual relationship with. Will she cause problems because of this? Yes, but I'm willing to live with that.
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She's pretty much our Bad Fortune disadvantage. As far as we can tell, she is. There isn't much choice but trying to not make her be a thorn to us for now.

Personally, I think Hanabi is kind of adorable.
 
EtchedSteel said:
She's pretty much our Bad Fortune disadvantage. As far as we can tell, she is. There isn't much choice but trying to not make her be a thorn to us for now.

Personally, I think Hanabi is kind of adorable.
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I realize that she's a disadvantage, and I'm perfectly fine taking a bit of effort to mitigate that. But I don't want to close off other paths on her account just yet. I'd prefer something a bit more neutral.
 
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    Something is happening right now… You're not entirely certain why, but you find yourself reminded of Hanabi and Himawari's introduction with each other. Namely, you recall how Hanabi insulted Himawari and almost dragged the both of them into a duel. For some reason Hanabi's posture and tone reminds you of how she acted then, and you cannot help but worry.

    So you decide it would be best to make sure there is not a repeat of that experience. The atmosphere of the castle is tense enough as it is with the coming battle without arguments breaking out. Said arguments that might potentially lead to bloodshed, and not of your mutual enemies. It would be a waste if that happened. The energy would be much better spent on proper targets and you'd prefer your acquaintances not attack each other.

    At some point you figure you're going to need to get to the bottom as to why exactly Hanabi holds you in such regard. These little bouts of fierce temperament from her are very confusing, but that is a matter for another time. For now, you move onward toward the goal of peace and harmony between people who should be aligned in common cause.

    Ah, yes. I have been remiss," you say, clapping your hands together. "Mirumoto-san, permit me to introduce the honorable Shinjo Wanli-san." You motion toward the Unicorn Samurai. "We met briefly at Kyuden Tonbo, where we were both waiting for permission to enter the Dragon lands. She sought audience with Kitsuki-sama on a matter pertaining to our recent preparations, and I am pleased to have been able to provide her with some small assistance in this thing."

    "I see," Hanabi says, her posture visibly growing less tense as she rises. Her smile is still stiff, but it looks more natural as she addresses Wanli. "I'm sure your assistance will prove invaluable, Shinjo-san."

    "That is my hope," Wanli says, her face set in a grim line as she bows to Hanabi. "I understand matters are… delicate, in more ways than one, but I truly wish only to help."

    "Shinjo-san, this is the honorable Mirumoto Hanabi-san," you continue, motioning toward the Dragon Bushi. "We have had a number of interesting conversations, and she has served at my side in battle against the enemies of all that live."

    Hanabi's smile loses all of its rigidity at your words, and her eyes practically come alight at your mention of the time you've spent together. She directs that smile at you, radiating contentment such that she's almost glowing. Her shift in attitude is strange, but at least the situation no longer resembles the near disaster that was her first interaction with Kitsu Himawari. That's enough of a victory as far as you're concerned.

    Wanli observes this and gives you a look out of the corner of her eye, but just nods and keeps her attention focused on Hanabi. "It is a pleasure to meet you, Mirumoto-san."

    "I feel the same, Shinjo-san," Hanabi replies. She motions toward the stairs. "If you will come with us, we shall take you to Kitsuki-dono's chambers. He has been awaiting your arrival."

    The urge to sigh becomes almost overwhelming, but you push it down. While Hanabi's greeting to Wanli does not strike you are truly sincere, you're no longer detecting the edge of hostility you felt before. As things stand you don't figure there should be any incidents as the Unicorn Bushi is escorted up to meet the Kitsuki Family Daimyo.

    You're pretty certain, anyway.

    [] Follow the group to Kitsuki Ryojiro's chambers.
    [] Interact with your comrades.
    [] Timeskip to everyone moving out to confront the enemy.
    [] Write in.
     
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    • [X] Follow the group to Kitsuki Ryojiro's chambers.

    So, as a Crab Bushi, acting as the calming force in a conversation is hilarious.

    We should do that.
     
    [x] Interact with your comrades.
    -[x] Go inform Yasuki Goro of Shinjo Wanli's arrival.

    We could follow them, but we're not a diplomat, and should not be poking our nose into every diplomatic event just because we can. We're actively distracting one of the Dragon samurai with our presence, as well. Better to let the person whose job it is to handle political events become aware of the situation as quickly as we reasonably can, and if he wants to do something about it he can.

    And if we doesn't, well, then we end scene (and do something else, or timeskip) because it's his call to make.
     
    Ok, time for a bit of analytical thinking.

    I'm thinking about Mirumoto Hanabi. Ok, she's yandere, thus obssesive, and could be a real issue with any female near us. In any sense of the word.
    Two, she's a capable bushi, with Dragon training, and the potential to be seriously loyal, and useful.

    The problem with any yandere is, as it has always been, they get possessive and dangerous. However, there is always a reason that the yandere has chosen her target, and that can be the perfect lever to re-focus her into being something less unbalanced. Still, this will take time and effort, so we should consider whether we want to salvage her, and make a loyal follower of her, or not take the risks and effort.

    Note, classicly in L5R, marriage would lead to our partner being sent to our lands, rather than traveling with us. Still, she could be assigned to our group for a number of reasons, mostly political, and a marriage could be part of that(Not likely, though).


    Right, bottom line. Time and effort, some risk, buy off the flaw, buy her as an advantage, this can happen. Is it worth it?

    Well, I want to do this, but that's cause I'm entertained by the whole situation. You guys'll have to make up your own minds.
     
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    Ok, time for a bit of analytical thinking.

    I'm thinking about Mirumoto Hanabi. Ok, she's yandere, thus obssesive, and could be a real issue with any female near us. In any sense of the word.
    Two, she's a capable bushi, with Dragon training, and the potential to be seriously loyal, and useful.

    The problem with any yandere is, as it has always been, they get possessive and dangerous. However, there is always a reason that the yandere has chosen her target, and that can be the perfect lever to re-focus her into being something less unbalanced. Still, this will take time and effort, so we should consider whether we want to salvage her, and make a loyal follower of her, or not take the risks and effort.

    Note, classicly in L5R, marriage would lead to our partner being sent to our lands, rather than traveling with us. Still, she could be assigned to our group for a number of reasons, mostly political, and a marriage could be part of that(Not likely, though).


    Right, bottom line. Time and effort, some risk, buy off the flaw, buy her as an advantage, this can happen. Is it worth it?

    Well, I want to do this, but that's cause I'm entertained by the whole situation. You guys'll have to make up your own minds.
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    I previously mentioned that I oppose the effort to go down the Hanabi route and spend our time and effort on her. Let me elaborate a bit.

    The reason Hanabi seems to have chosen Sosuke seems to be hero worship gone very, very wrong at the moment. Now, we did manage to use that to curb her somewhat once, (the attempted duel with Kitsu), it isn't really a sustainable thing in the long run. Any time she perceives Sosuke being even a little bit close with a woman, she's going to flare up. And while she may not be willing to do something that'd piss off Sosuke in front of him, she may well take action behind her back.

    We could try to mitigate this by returning her affections, perhaps. But I really, really don't want to go after the crazy one. It's also quite plausible that even if Sosuke marries her, she will retain her jealousy and perceive any interactions with other women as Sosuke straying from her.

    Now, let us say that Sosuke overcomes his oblivious nature, perceives the root of the problem with Hanabi clearly, and formulates a viable plan to deal with it. Quite a tall order, but assuming his success, the pay off is still not worth it.

    This is going to take considerable time and a huge amount of effort, during which he tries to rehabilitate Hanabi, tries to prevent her for killing women he encounters and deals with whatever the Shadow throws at him all at once. A single slip up could spell disaster. And in the end, we get a loyal Dragon bushi as a companion, but during the process we may have lost out on four or five potential companions, and chances to create ties with many more, all for trying to appease her jealousy.

    Even now, there are two potential companions I'd like to work on, Kitsu and Wanli. But having Hanabi with us has increased the difficulty exponentially.

    To sum it up, this endeavour is much risk for comparatively little gain.
     
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    [x] Interact with your comrades.
    -[x] Go inform Yasuki Goro of Shinjo Wanli's arrival.
     
    [X] Interact with your comrades.
    -[X] Train with Shiro.
    --[X] Mention Hanabi's weirdness.

    We both get to destress from our very recent brush with death (thank you P'an Ku) and possibly figure out IC what is going on with Hanabi because Shiro is much smarter than us.
     
    Brandark said:
    We could try to mitigate this by returning her affections, perhaps. But I really, really don't want to go after the crazy one. It's also quite plausible that even if Sosuke marries her, she will retain her jealousy and perceive any interactions with other women as Sosuke straying from her.
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    Indeed, if we marry her but don't buy off the flaw, that is exactly what will happen.

    There are two questions here. The first is "Should we try to buy off the flaw?" I want to. You seem to want to. I don't know that there's anyone who doesn't want to. The second is "How do we justify buying off this flaw?" My plan is to placate her, establish loyalty, establish influence, and convince her to join us in slaughtering the foes of all who live (at which point we buy her off either by getting engaged to the woman or by having her die in glorious combat against said foes). It absolutely means putting all other romantic paths on hold while we work on that (and afterwards, if we *do* wind up marrying her), but I don't know of any other way to pull it off that doesn't have a huge amount of collateral damage and also doesn't involve someone successfully killing her in a duel. Given that the Mirumoto are supposed to be Really Good at dueling, and we don't have any handy female Kakita making her jealous....

    Now, if you have another plan, I'd love to hear it. I'm going with this one because it's the best I've managed to come up with as far as damage control. I also find that whole "will do anything to have you" and hero worship thing a bit endearing, but not endearing enough. I'm happy to hear about other options.
     
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