No no no. It's not because it's Japanese. It's their equivalent of shit-taste people have and support with our own pop culture. GATE is only a couple of steps removed from Twilight.
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No no no. It's not because it's Japanese. It's their equivalent of shit-taste people have and support with our own pop culture. GATE is only a couple of steps removed from Twilight.
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No no no. It's not because it's Japanese. It's their equivalent of shit-taste people have and support with our own pop culture. GATE is only a couple of steps removed from Twilight.
Well, considering the kind of horrible shit I found in Twilight (The vampire babies, for one. That one freaked the shit outta me) at the very least, the male protagonist of Gate does his best at deflecting the advances of the girls he's with, so there's that. Also, I surprisingly have little problem with the Mayfly-December Romance between Itami and Rory since, unlike Ed and Bel, Itami is at least a grown man so it doesn't really feel like pedophile.
Uh, I think the pedo part would be from Rory being jailbait (that is actually x bazillion years old so it's completely fine guys) .
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Hm, the anime (or manga) might not show this, considering the art style, but she's actually supposed to look 16. Again, I have little problem with this, considering I live in a country where the lowest age for marriage is 16 for girls, and 19 for guys. Hell, even Japanese girls themselves can marry when they're only 16, although it can only be done with parental consent so it mostly only happens in arranged marriages.
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Building schools for peasants certainly seems like typical public relations fluff.
I suspect Americans will be hanging out children's science textbooks like candy as part of their "hearts and minds" campaign.
To their great dismay. . .
. . . the local gods won't realize *basic* physics can make *anybody* a walking nuke until knowledge is everywhere
I disagree completely.
Everything you said neatly explains why magic isn't more predominant!
Killing 'em all be dead might refer to mages the empire was knocking down as they established themselves?
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Or maybe it's like the manga Magi - Labyrith of Magic? Where the magic academy and its surrounding city is considered a country unto itself? And because magic is more prevalent and focused there, it explains why magic isn't predominant in the Empire, who seems to fashion itself like the Roman.
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Taking this a step further, said City-state could even be why the Empire went and killed all the mages they could (in an attempt to limit the city's influence and prevent a supposed takeover).
How does that make any sense? If Hardy didn't want magic and technology to be mixed why the hell did she open the gate to a universe filled to the brim with advanced technology? Hell even if the only world she could open Gates to was Earth why didn't she open it near more primitive societies? 
Really I do.
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Standard "because the gods are bored" reasoning?How does that make any sense? If Hardy didn't want magic and technology to be mixed why the hell did she open the gate to a universe filled to the brim with advanced technology? Hell even if the only world she could open Gates to was Earth why didn't she open it near more primitive societies?
I don't think Hardy knew what kind of society was on the other side of the Gate, she just wanted some people on the other side to stumble across it and cross over to provide a new source of worshippers, after which it would eventually close after an undetermined amount of time. The Empire's mages were the ones who decided to make the Gate permanent so as to add to their conquests, to their dismay ever since the other side proved that it could fight back with overwhelming firepower.
Can't say why Hardy didn't foresee this happening, but the reason why Earth was chosen was probably because Conflict. After all, the god (goddess?) of death, war, murder and other such stuff would like Earth-humanity bringing in the slaughterboots, yeah?How does that make any sense? If Hardy didn't want magic and technology to be mixed why the hell did she open the gate to a universe filled to the brim with advanced technology? Hell even if the only world she could open Gates to was Earth why didn't she open it near more primitive societies?
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Hardy is the god(dess) of the Underworld. Emroy is the one that's the god of Death and War; though all things considered, pretty nice guy from what we've seen of him through Rory, albeit said take is probably biased since she's his apostle and all...
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Or said city-state has a lot of soft power and can influence the supply of mages willing to work for the Empire. If said city-state is one of the few places that can provide consistent access to rare services and goods, then a lot of mages may suddenly decide that they're busy if the city-state disagrees with the Empire over certain aspects of foreign policy.
Crazael
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Yeah, that's very much what I had in mind, I just couldn't figure out how to phrases it.
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Alternatives include sheer Imperial bureaucracy to control magic?
If you're not attending Empire sponsored apprenticeship or school - you fall under scrutiny of Empire.
That has apprenticeship serving a purpose beyond mere tradition.
Fall in line or DIE.
Gate magic users can usually beaten by a dozen men with swords.
Not like Imperials can't enforce any rules they're setting.
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Link is borked.How does that make any sense? If Hardy didn't want magic and technology to be mixed why the hell did she open the gate to a universe filled to the brim with advanced technology? Hell even if the only world she could open Gates to was Earth why didn't she open it near more primitive societies?
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Honestly if you're going to do it in the theme of Generation Kill, don't. Please.
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And wait, what was the point you were making with this? (Oblivious, dense as fuck) men who reject the advances of girls is a staple of harem anime. GATE using another yet another cliche does not make it better.
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And wait, what was the point you were making with this? (Oblivious, dense as fuck) men who reject the advances of girls is a staple of harem anime. GATE using another yet another cliche does not make it better.
Dense? Have you really read the manga or watch the anime? Because Itami is fully aware and the show makes it a point of showing how uncomfortable he is with the advances, and it's with the right reason too: because Rory and Lelei are way too young for someone his age (only appearance-wise, in Rory's case, but it still counts).
Also, the point I was trying to make is that comparing Gate with Twilight is just way too cruel (not to mention a bit inaccurate considering their respective target audience), kinda like comparing a mediocre bread with a moldy one.
So Gate is the mold?
Crazael
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I'd say it's the mediocre one. It's not especially good tasting, but is perfectly serviceable for what it is and in't going to hurt you any.
I'll accept that if you accept that the mold in this case is penicillin and that Twilight is the disease.
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Well, I wonder if a god is immune to nukes?
Because war with them seems inevitable.
Because war with them seems inevitable.
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How so? They're not specifically antagonistic (save for maybe Hardy, and that's just through waking up the Flame Dragon early and the actions she commanded Giselle to do as her apostle), they just want worship and for their followers to do as commanded of them.
As I said, Emroy seems pretty cool so far for a god of Death and War...
That's why I put it in parenthesis, since the trend now is to make the self-insert slightly more self-aware, but still sexless like much of their target audience.