LastStandZiggy
Last To Fall
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- Kingman, Az
It'll most likely be the first thing through the Gate.
Anyone say, "Tomahawk Missile"? That or a dozen M1 Abrams.
Gate - Thus First Recon Fought There!
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Anyone say, "Tomahawk Missile"? That or a dozen M1 Abrams.
In my defense, it was like 3 am when I replied to your post.Edit: Also,
Why did the Bunny Queen decide to start shit with her liberators? Seems incredibly stupid what with her people still being a shattered race on the brink of extinction and JSDF being the guys who kicked the shit out of the guys who kicked the shit out of her race when the Bunnies were much more numerous and powerful.
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Without intel, the army will not have data on where local population centers are. Without this data, no knowledge how much fuel you will need to get a drone inside.
Beyond that, there are no easy methods of identifying where political entities and their borders start/collide and as such, no certainty on who you are bombarding.
Unlike Japan in canon-gate, America will not be sending some measly task force to hold and couple of vehicles & crew to scout out. Unlike Japan, USA armed forces are more than able to expand, explore and exterminate all opposition within a large radius around the gate that would make canon-gate base look anemic in comparison.
As long as the gate exists, it is the only supply route to an entire land (potentially) full of hostile barbaroi who have attacked America unprovoked, slaughtering civilians and attempting to take over a major city which hosts a substantial amounts of American fleet-assets. WW2 veterans are going to be Triggered like mad at the similarities, even with the large number of differences in question.
They are going to fuel entire army-groups through the gate the moment they believe it is safe - American scouting will likely favor heavy air patrols/drones to scout out the airspace and (if the planners are competent), they will be focusing on the old maxim of air superiority in order to defeat the only known effective military assets before they can be potentially gathered en-mass.
Methinks the local dragon population is going to have a very bad day. Wonder how that will change things: will that elven village survive? Will they borne witness to american air force swooping in to shred the wild dragon before she starts burminating the populous?
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She found out that she had been lied to, found out that her people actually believed the lies about her and then went "I will see this world and all in it burn, Burn, BURN!" The plan was to implicate one of the crown prince's as the one calling the hit and thus unleash a War To End All Wars.
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I almost feel bad for the Empire.
But, yeah. Unprovoked attack.
But, yeah. Unprovoked attack.
Rear Mirrors
Cynic
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- Seattle, Washington, USA
Shouldn't the Empire refer to a lot of things by its Latin names? Ex: Lupus for Wolf.
I forgot, will the Iraq invasion still happen in this timeline?
I forgot, will the Iraq invasion still happen in this timeline?
Not sure of dates, but unless the war has already started, it is likely that USA public slash political opinion will pressure focusing entirely on defeating the much weaker but closer opponent before thinking about going for middle-east.
Ramble
[Verified 'Murican]
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- America
Probably not. We have bigger fish to fry on the home front. Afghanistan is still going to happen though because even though it's two years after the fact, Bin Laden still had 3000 Americans to answer for and were going to kill the holy shit out of him by any means necessary.
More importantly, the question is, will Hardy look at the massive population of scalies crowding the entrance to Hell and go, "Well shit, I think I dun goofed"?
The What now?
LastStandZiggy
Last To Fall
- Location
- Kingman, Az
The scalies, I think he's referring to dragons, because Hardy and her prophetess uses dragon for practically everything.
And dragons in most fiction, including gate, are very aggressive and territorial.
And with the USA becoming the newest next door neighbors, well, we do have kind of a reputation for shooting things and mounting them in the living room. It's all part of the big game hunting phenomenon, and I have no doubt dragon teeth will make for one hell of a bottle opener too, so there's even some small utilitarian aspects to it.
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I do not want to continue the derail but ...
That's a myth, the Sheffield structure was made entirely of steel. They had problems with the textiles used, though.
That's a myth, the Sheffield structure was made entirely of steel. They had problems with the textiles used, though.
serra2
Himouto! Sylvanas-chan
Afganistan would still be going on at this point. That started like a month after 9/11. Saddam will be dedicating his life to Allah for taking the heat off of him with these Roman lookalike morons.
Fredo
Climbing Mt Doom
Do you have any clue how a tomahawk missile is targeted? It involves spy satellites or high altitude aircraft. Without detailed terrain maps and/or GPS, a tomahawk is a very expensive self propelled iron bomb. At a million+ a pop, you don't launch them willy-nilly hoping to hit something.
Lets be realistic here. The first thing they are going to send through is heavy infantry with multiple crew served weapons like .50 cals and mortars. Probably a few APCs or a tank or two as well. They are going to secure the area and dig in. Then special forces/recon will be sent out to try to talk to the locals and find out what the **** is going on as well as aerial drones to gain intelligence, locate the enemy forces, map the area, etc. Depending on whether radio signals go through the gate without interference, they may build up a comm center to relay drone commands and communicate with forward operating teams. If drones can't be operated effectively due to communication limitations and lack of GPS infrastructure, then they might send through a recon plane or use more locally controlled drones.
On the US side, they will be staging men, tanks, trucks, supplies, etc. Everything necessary for when the generals figure out what are the targets and how they are going to attack them.
But they are not going to rush into a totally unknown situation before gathering as much intel as possible. For all they know, this is just the enemy's version of recon in force and they have massive war golems and flights of dragons waiting to be deployed. Or worse, mages capable of mind-controlling whole armies. Think what the worse case scenario is - its a general's job to figure that out before the fact and develop a plan to avoid it. You can't do that without intel and lots of it.
So they are going to be interrogating any combatants that were captured - trying to figure out what language they speak, what they want, what are their capabilities, what are their leader's goals, etc. Until then, they will play a defensive waiting game unless the situation changes and requires immediate action. Because that is the safest thing to do.
SteelRaptor
Angry again
ZeroXSEED
Economic Authoritarian Muslim Leftist
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- In the name of orange!
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SteelRaptor
Angry again
Gate actually Had a Great one.
The Princess had an even More Hopeless reaction in the Manga.
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- California, USA
What about ramifications of discovering that different dimensions exist and there is life in other worlds? And the proof is right inside the US of A. So there is no room for denial.
Night_stalker
Slava Ukraini!
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Can't be, Cobras have skids for landing gear and don't have tail rotors like that. No, they look more like OH-1s.
Kinda late for this but: Leviticus 18:23
Which, in turn, makes me wonder about the reactions of organized religions on powerful 'entities' declaring themselves as gods.
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*looks at first quote*
What do the Chozo from the Metroid series have to do with anything in this fic?
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LastStandZiggy
Last To Fall
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- Kingman, Az
Would it help to say that I was being sarcastic?
Either way, and honestly, thank you for informing me about this. I knew I was missing some things.
Nothing. I fucked up on the inserted quotes*looks at first quote*
What do the Chozo from the Metroid series have to do with anything in this fic?