Full Moon Blues (SI, Crossover, Dragonball/MCU)

Should there be more Saiyans out there?

  • Yes; a whole planet full.

    Votes: 6 4.5%
  • Yes; a few straggling survivors

    Votes: 60 44.8%
  • Yes; with radical alterations from Dragonball canon

    Votes: 13 9.7%
  • Yes; as it is in DBZ, complete with Freeza

    Votes: 38 28.4%
  • No; Charud should be the only one.

    Votes: 54 40.3%

  • Total voters
    134
  • Poll closed .
I think that the only good reason and time for vegeta to show up would be during infinity war whilst looking for the infinity stones.
 
Well, that poll turned out less helpful than I hoped. I honestly didn't expect it to be nearly this divided; with almost exactly equal votes for a small number of surviving saiyans and for the SI being the only one. So I'm going to change things around here and make the results a little easier to read.

EDIT: Okay apparently you can't do that? Which seems... terrible! That's a bad way to do that, forum guys!

I guess I'll just strawpoll it right now; will you guys stop reading the fic if Vegeta shows up? :p
I might not stop, but it would be a bad choice. His character isn't really compatible with this story as far as I can tell.
 
Then there are the kais, and king yama. How do they fit in with the celestials, the asgardians, dormammu, and everything else. The problem with fusions when the setting has a rich mythology is that everything has to be changed and we no longer just know what is what.

But still, your story.
 
Then there are the kais, and king yama. How do they fit in with the celestials, the asgardians, dormammu, and everything else. The problem with fusions when the setting has a rich mythology is that everything has to be changed and we no longer just know what is what.

But still, your story.

Eh; you really don't have to go that far. "if Vegeta Therefore Beerus" does not actually have to follow.
 
Beerus is actually significantly easier to slot into a Marvel universe than the Kais; he and Galactus literally have the same job, you just need to pick one and claim that the other was a predecessor.
 
Yeah I'd probably stop reading if you started adding more Saiyans since they vastly overpower pretty much everything in MCU that's not full infinity gauntlet Thanos. So to successfully mix the 2 universes you'd need to more heavily nerf the DBZ side than you already are which would make me drop this.
 
Yeah I'm totally fine with DBZ characters showing up down the line. But like Flutters said way down the line. Unless you think the story would benefit from a character coming in earlier.
 
There are SOME Dragonball characters that'd fit at this point on the powerscale, but not many. Mostly from Super, like the Galactic Patrol (who are strong enough to be relevant, weak enough to not be gamebreakers, and lazy and ineffectual enough to slot in without the slightest change to MCU Cosmic canon).
 
I'd lose a whole lot of interest if Vegeta showed up unless it involves a fight to the death between him and our SI, where our SI sides with his new Earth friends over his former prince. Note: Vegeta must die, no interest in reading about Hero or Redeemed Vegeta in a MCU story.

Obviously my opinion doesn't make much difference, but thought I'd just put it out there.
 
Well Chi is a thing in Marvel, although I hope Black Widow doesn't starts pulling shticks beyond Iron Fist considering he is the pinnacle of Human Mastery of Chi.
 
Instead of Vegeta I would like to see Master Roshi in the story, his training would perfect to the mc I and want to see his pervy antics with Romanov lol and he would not need to be nerfed since he would be just a little stronger then Captain America currently
 
I'm glad the option for multiple Saiyan survivors to have won since it has a lot of potential. Bonus point if they're stronger than our MC. Saiyans are natural assholes but they can be reasonable assholes as several spin-off OAVs and a short manga showed us. They're battle-junkies and there is more to them than mere mercenaries with a few genocidal tendencies.

To be honest, as a follow up Frieza should be in as well since it implies those Saiyans survived something. You could technically replace him with Galactus as the one to destroy Planet Vegeta but there is potential to Frieza as well if you give time Earth to not get stomped and still be a gradual challenge to Frieza like in the Namek Arc. Goku couldn't fight him head-on right off the bat but still enough to just not get sstomped in a manner that doesn't let the plot develop.
 
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I don't like the idea of full DBZ characters showing up. Characters based on DBZ characters - close enough we might recognize source material for the character, but still not being actually them(partially so the SI doesn't know them properly like he doesn't like MCU) - seems more tolerable.

Though I think I would prefer only having some of the races show up as background details. Like a few scattered Saiyans after their planet was destroyed, maybe some Namekians exist, but no dragon balls. Enough to give omage to DBZ, but not really making it a real fusion.
 
Never watched the show, but If that's you saying that she will surpass Iron Fist (comic, show or otherwise) in your fic then ok.
Its pretty inevitable; Iron Fist never learned flight or battleship-class energy beams, whereas both are well within the capability of a properly trained member of a weak species.
 
Its pretty inevitable; Iron Fist never learned flight or battleship-class energy beams, whereas both are well within the capability of a properly trained member of a weak species.
This makes me wonder what sort of power Captain Marvel is running around with relatively. I imagine she is more Thor-tier, on the solid to upper end of your Tier 3.

But her power set is remarkably like a Saiyans.
 
If you just fuse them on the universe, then no, please don't bring them in.

If you can think of a way to adapt them to fit the universe, then, by all means, should be interesting seing how things play out in a universe with a lot more players.

Freeza duking out with Thanos armies and the Kree.

The Namekians trying to protect the dragon balls.

A few sayans here and there causing trouble as they should.

And they don't really need to come to earth either, there are a bunch of plot hooks you could use to bring the mc outside it to meet with whoever .
 
Well, if you have it already outlined, I won't tell you no.

There have already indication in story that the Saiyans are known.

Assuming Charud is actually right about the whole: "Freza exterminated us" thing then the galactic balance of power is already thoroughly out the window.

I avoid DBZ verses debates, but from what I've seen of them, they're always a mess.

Once the power levels get up to Vegeta, none of it makes much sense.

Can casually destroy a planet, but can't instantly pulp a warrior with less than a 10th of his power in a single blow, does not fit together.

I've liked how Charud's abilities have been presented thus far.

If there were more scattered Saiyans wondering around after the destruction of Vegeta, and they were at something like Radditz level, that would be fine.

I can't really see myself dropping the story unless it becomes painful to read by way of constant emotional torment, or a sudden extreme drop in logic, and quality.

I doubt either of those things will happen, so don't worry about me drooping out if you decide to go further into the DBZ setting.
 
Feels like a lot of people are just imagining the worst possible scenario there, and I think that they're either assuming that DBZ wouldn't get nerfed, Marvel wouldn't get buffed, or they're completely allergic to nerfing and buffing.
 
Feels like a lot of people are just imagining the worst possible scenario there, and I think that they're either assuming that DBZ wouldn't get nerfed, Marvel wouldn't get buffed, or they're completely allergic to nerfing and buffing.
Considering you're already iffy on the whole power level of the setting so far I doubt I'd enjoy more if you even further changed things. I like the concept of a guy being dropped into the MCU as a pretty weak Saiyan because while not the strongest you would are the best available. But if instead your one out of however many Saiyans are still alive you're a low level warrior with zero combat training, zero ki trainging, minor setting knowledge, and are pretty shit by Saiyan standards.
 
I guess I'll just strawpoll it right now; will you guys stop reading the fic if Vegeta shows up? :p
I mean there would have to be a good reason for him to show. No dragonballs and with Earth being view as insignificant.

But honestly, I can accept that there's another Earth floating around in this muddled up MCU where humans fly around in airships shaped like lighters.
It's plausible that there are two planets in the universe with the same name. :whistle:

Freeza duking out with Thanos
Would they fight? They essentially do the same thing, only Freeza does the whole Planet while Thanos does half. Plus MCU Thanos doesn't seem like the "Emperor of the Universe" type.
 
Considering you're already iffy on the whole power level of the setting so far I doubt I'd enjoy more if you even further changed things. I like the concept of a guy being dropped into the MCU as a pretty weak Saiyan because while not the strongest you would are the best available. But if instead your one out of however many Saiyans are still alive you're a low level warrior with zero combat training, zero ki training, minor setting knowledge, and are pretty shit by Saiyan standards.

You mean if I was a Goku? :p

I mean yeah if they showed up now I'd be pretty fucked, but this is Dragonball Z bro, escalation is kinda the name of the game.

Would they fight? They essentially do the same thing, only Freeza does the whole Planet while Thanos does half. Plus MCU Thanos doesn't seem like the "Emperor of the Universe" type.

I haven't nailed this down at ALL yet so don't take it as gospel, but:

I did have the idea that Thanos would hire the Freeza force on to help out with his depopulation project on occasion rather than just trying to do it all himself. This could lead to some crazyness down the road when Freeza learns about the infinity stones and turns the Infinity War into more of an Infinity Free For All.
 
You mean if I was a Goku? :p

I mean yeah if they showed up now I'd be pretty fucked, but this is Dragonball Z bro, escalation is kinda the name of the game.
Yeah but Goku has been training literally all of his life under masters of the craft, dies multiple times, is extremely talented,and barely survives the other times to get Zenkai. The other Saiyans all should have atleast a basic level of Ki understanding while you're blind. You'd basically be like Saiyan Saga Goku, killed pretty much the first time a real out of world threat shows up, and without some handy plot device you're gone.
 
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