Honestly, I'm inclined to say Rin out of chances. She had her chance with the meeting, and conducted herself reasonably well in setting it up.

Too bad she pissed it all away at the meeting proper.

I mean seriously, she has crammed and impressive amount of fuck-ups in, what, a week? And she'd be a crappy Servant, one who is proud enough to resent her circumstances.

Let her reap what she has sowed.

I'm totally with you on this, Rin is out of her dept with us after that meeting..
 
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[X] Ask Saber if she had something important to say or if she just wanted to make sure we left.

Rin for Deis' spare body? :V
 
Ultimately we are trying to end with Flandre not being asked to remain out of sight at SDM, considering Remi and Patchy are likely watching her at intervals.

Almost certainly Rin will not make amends and Flan will kill her but that offer/etc needs to be made to increase Flandre's mental discipline.
It's about a vampire graciously extending the hand of forgiveness only for it to be slapped away vs killing someone who doesn't realise just how much they offended you/in spite of their desire to make restitution.
 
Ultimately we are trying to end with Flandre not being asked to remain out of sight at SDM, considering Remi and Patchy are likely watching her at intervals.

Almost certainly Rin will not make amends and Flan will kill her but that offer/etc needs to be made to increase Flandre's mental discipline.
It's about a vampire graciously extending the hand of forgiveness only for it to be slapped away vs killing someone who doesn't realise just how much they offended you/in spite of their desire to make restitution.

Ah, I thought that you are against killing Rin no matter what but now that I see your reason, I find my self agreeing with you. I'm okay with Flan offer Rin a final chance to make amends.
 
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Parting?
[X] Ask Saber if she had something important to say or if she just wanted to make sure we left.


"O mighty King of Knights," you begin, voice dripping with scorn, "have you some vital piece of information to impart, or have you merely come to rattle your saber to speed us on our way?" Saber jumps and turns to face you, a tangle of emotions on her face – anger, embarrassment, perhaps worry or fear. She locks her expression quickly, however, and turns back toward Ilya, who is standing in front of the open car, looking in, and Sella, who is glaring back at her.

"Illyasviel." After a moment, Ilya turns around to look expressionlessly at the Servant. "… What you said – is it true? Sakura will die?" Ilya's eyes flicker almost imperceptibly to meet your own before she responds.

"Of course she will. She has begun taking in the defeated Servants, has become the Lesser Grail. Once she has enough of them, she will die – if not truly, then as the person she is. Humans weren't meant to be able to hold the power of the Grail … I wonder what that old man did to her?" You frown – there's something you're missing, and Ilya has deliberately not brought it up with you. Not that you've been exactly forthcoming with all your secrets, of course, but …. Saber's fists clench.

"Is there nothing that can be done?" She almost sounds like she's begging – hopeful, but not expectant. Ilya shrugs.

"Not without a lot of work, knowing what was done to her, and her own consent." A magnificent, malefic smile crosses her face and Saber takes a step back. "Besides, why should I want to help her? If she is the Grail in my place, then I don't have to die to finish this stupid War. I can do things, plan for the future, enjoy myself knowing that my lifespan can be measured in months rather than days. I can win this War and see things through to the end instead of losing myself when the strain of holding the Servants in me becomes too much." She takes a step forward, intimidating Saber into taking another step back in spite of herself. You stare at Ilya, too stunned by the sudden revelation to do anything, and her demeanor changes once more – her smile fades and her eyes lose their sharpness, becoming cold and hard, and Saber inhales sharply. Ilya isn't radiating menace or ill-will, only implacable human determination, the kind that sees vampires fall under a mountain of corpses. "That's all, isn't it? The next time we meet – if we meet again," she clarifies, glancing at you, "Berserker will kill you." Saber stiffens, then her shoulders slump and she looks down. Ilya shakes her head slightly and returns to her normal self, looks at you, and turns back to her car. You put your parasol away and dart forward, picking her up again and settling in the deep seat with her on your lap. Sella fastens the safety belt and closes the door.

"Ilya –" You hesitate, not sure which part you want her to explain first, and she sighs.

"I told you, didn't I? Homunculi all have tradeoffs, and one of the most common is lifespan." You frown as Sella gets in. "I was never going to live very long, and summoning Berserker so early probably reduced that by a lot. I'll be lucky to survive another year even if I survive this War." That's … you hate it, but that's how it is. Fairies reincarnate almost eternally, magicians live forever, humans have short lifespans … and homunculi have even shorter ones, apparently. You can't muster up the rage to go against it, and even if you could, there's nothing here that you want to lash out against. Ilya presses herself against you; it's not uncomfortable, and it seems like she's just doing it for the closer physical presence, but ….

"Okay. Then, what about the Grail? How is Sakura becoming the 'Lesser Grail,' and why is she doing it in your place? I was under the impression that you owned the Grail." Ilya sighs.

"The Grail is mine because … well. To start with, the Lesser Grail is the container for the power of Servants. Normally, a dead Servant will return to the Throne of Heroes, but the Lesser Grail stops that temporarily. For the first three Heaven's Feels, the Lesser Grail was an actual cup, but that was damaged in the third War and so for the last War and this one, the Lesser Grail was placed inside a homunculus – something that could take care of itself. My mother for the last one, myself in this one. I wonder how the Matous managed to do this … maybe they got something they weren't supposed to at the end? Too bad the old man's dead, I guess." She stretches her arms forward, then slumps leans back so her head is resting on your shoulder. "The Greater Grail is the actual mechanism for wishing that people are fighting over, and it needs enough energy to be activated. That's why the Lesser Grail exists – Servants provide the energy, but without the Lesser Grail to hold them in this world until enough energy is ready to fully activate the Greater Grail, nothing would happen. And as for the Grail being mine … the Heaven's Feel was originally set up by the Einzbern family to recover our True Magic. True immortality through the materialization of the soul. That's what the Grail was originally, wasn't it? Not a wish, but immortality – that was the gift of the Holy Grail, and that's what we had. We, the Einzberns, are the owners of the Holy Grail." You rest your head against hers.

"And if you win, you will have your Magic once again, won't you?" But in order for her to win, she has to defeat all the Servants, including Caster … or does she? After all, there was an eighth Servant … if enough of his essence survived. Ilya straightens, forcing you to lift your head as well.

"Anyway, we'll be coming up on Ryuudou Temple pretty soon; you should go back." You frown; she seems to be trying to convince herself that it would be best to cut off relations with you.


What do you do?

[ ] Refuse to leave her for now and go back to her castle with them.
- Do you have any plans or thoughts on what to do?

[ ] Agree to leave and make your good-byes.
- [ ] Go to sleep; it's still daylight and you're not in a good mood.
- [ ] Talk to Deis about what Ilya told you about the Grail.

[ ] Other?
 
[X] Refuse to leave her for now and go back to her castle with them.
-[X] Just stay with her for a while and don't let her push you away, she needs you as a friend right now.
 
[X] Refuse to leave her for now and go back to her castle with them.
-[X] Just stay with her for a while and don't let her push you away, she needs you as a friend right now.

Mm...I hope we can figure out a way to keep Illya alive.
 
[X] Refuse to leave her for now and go back to her castle with them.
- [X] Thank her for being open about her secrets; now it is time for you to return the favor.
- - [X] Tell her about Gensokyo and your journey
- - [X] Let her know that she could come to Gensokyo if she liked; either way, she's your friend, and you're here for her
 
[x] get in contact with patchy, talk to caster and deis about it. Illya is a friend and just letting something that that is yours wither away is unacceptable. Death should mind its own business and stay way.
 
[X] Refuse to leave her for now and go back to her castle with them.
- [X] Thank her for being open about her secrets; now it is time for you to return the favor.
- - [X] Tell her about Gensokyo and your journey
- - [X] Let her know that she could come to Gensokyo if she liked; either way, she's your friend, and you're here for her
 
[ ] get in contact with patchy, talk to caster and deis about it. Illya is a friend and just letting something that that is yours wither away is unacceptable. Death should mind its own business and stay way.
Flan doesn't have any meaningful way of contacting Patchouli; she's pretty much limited to writing a note and putting it somewhere that it can be seen.
 
[X] Refuse to leave her for now and go back to her castle with them.
- [X] Thank her for being open about her secrets; now it is time for you to return the favor.
- - [X] Tell her about Gensokyo and your journey
- - [X] Let her know that she could come to Gensokyo if she liked; either way, she's your friend, and you're here for her
 
[X] Refuse to leave her for now and go back to her castle with them.
- [X] Thank her for being open about her secrets; now it is time for you to return the favor.
- - [X] Tell her about Gensokyo and your journey
- - [X] Let her know that she could come to Gensokyo if she liked; either way, she's your friend, and you're here for her

Though I think Caster could probably fix it for her.
 
Man, I'd suggest just straight up plucking Illya out of the car and hauling her up to the temple for a sleepover, but I worry that it may result in SUDDENLY BERSERKER.
 
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[X] offer to try to extend her life patchy should be able to help and if not ask sis to teach us how to make a fledgling.
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[X] Refuse to leave her for now and go back to her castle with them.
-[X] Just stay with her for a while and don't let her push you away, she needs you as a friend right now.
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[X] Refuse to leave her for now and go back to her castle with them.
- [X] Thank her for being open about her secrets; now it is time for you to return the favor.
- - [X] Tell her about Gensokyo and your journey
- - [X] Let her know that she could come to Gensokyo if she liked; either way, she's your friend, and you're here for her
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[x] get in contact with patchy, talk to caster and deis about it. Illya is a friend and just letting something that that is yours wither away is unacceptable. Death should mind its own business and stay way.
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Vlad: No good, I'm getting rusty already. Even if she's my master, she's but a girl, nothing I can't handle ...

Flandre: Ah, Oji-chan!
Flandre: Oji-chan!
Flandre: It's Oji-chan!
Flandre: Let's play, Oji-chan ~!

Flandre: Come and play ~
Flandre: Read me a storybook!
Flandre: Let's play ~
Flandre: Oji-chan~
 
Oh my God, Uncle Vlad is the best Uncle. When can we summon him as a Servant?

Remi would be so jealous.
 
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