Finding the Spark (Pathfinder 1E Quest)

How about a vote that actually lets us ask for more justification here? Something about the history of the Aspis, how do they know that this guy is an agent, and so on.
Pretty much the only person who can convince me this could be a good idea to sign up for in advance is Sirim, and he better be more eloquent than 'in favor'. The only other source here is Thea, who is understandably biased.

The important thing here is, do Aspis intend to pay us or not? Because this is what I would assume half the team cares about, a payment for a job well done. And though Thea has given us a warning, this is not something that can be proven or disproven here, but rather during the assignment.
 
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Pretty much the only person who can convince me this could be a good idea to sign up for in advance is Sirim. The only other source here is Thea, who is understandably biased.

The important thing here is, do Aspis intend to pay us or not -- because this is what I would assume half the team cares about, a payment for a job well done. And though Thea have given us a warning, this is not something that can be proven or disproven here, but rather during the assignment.

Exactly. I would vote to do more exposition and then defer to Sirim's judgement here, but just to make this more in character. Putting knives in someone's back is nice and all, but only as long as we know why. A grudge is not enough of a why.

[X] While the justification here seems to be valid, we are not going to betray someone on what seems like a local grudge. After all, the Pathfinders would not want to have us betray them the next time someone comes talking shit about them, right? We want to be reliable and not savages. Sit and have a proper talk about the Aspis Consortium, and if they are indeed as unstrustworthy as they seem to be, then we will defer to Sirim's judgement and agree to this whole business.
-[X] To explain why we might have been observed entering the Pathfinder Lodge, ask Thea for information about the local Azerketi community, especially their royal family. If questioned about our presence here, we can truthfully explain that we came to gather information about the sudden and unexpected wedding invitation we received.
 
Exactly. I would vote to do more exposition and then defer to Sirim's judgement here, but just to make this more in character. Putting knives in someone's back is nice and all, but only as long as we know why. A grudge is not enough of a why.

[X] While the justification here seems to be valid, we are not going to betray someone on what seems like a local grudge. After all, the Pathfinders would not want to have us betray them the next time someone comes talking shit about them, right? We want to be reliable and not savages. Sit and have a proper talk about the Aspis Consortium, and if they are indeed as unstrustworthy as they seem to be, then we will defer to Sirim's judgement and agree to this whole business.
-[X] To explain why we might have been observed entering the Pathfinder Lodge, ask Thea for information about the local Azerketi community, especially their royal family. If questioned about our presence here, we can truthfully explain that we came to gather information about the sudden and unexpected wedding invitation we received.
Okay, I can get behind this.

[X] Tomcost
 
Vote closed. Aspis explanation it is
Adhoc vote count started by DragonParadox on Apr 22, 2024 at 2:44 AM, finished with 20 posts and 5 votes.

  • [X] While the justification here seems to be valid, we are not going to betray someone on what seems like a local grudge. After all, the Pathfinders would not want to have us betray them the next time someone comes talking shit about them, right? We want to be reliable and not savages. Sit and have a proper talk about the Aspis Consortium, and if they are indeed as unstrustworthy as they seem to be, then we will defer to Sirim's judgement and agree to this whole business.
    -[X] To explain why we might have been observed entering the Pathfinder Lodge, ask Thea for information about the local Azerketi community, especially their royal family. If questioned about our presence here, we can truthfully explain that we came to gather information about the sudden and unexpected wedding invitation we received.
    [X] Agree to work with the Pathfinders to betray your new Aspis employers. From what you have learned so far, the Pathfinders seem to be far more trustworthy than the Aspis Consortium, and your group could use all the reliable friends it can find.
    -[X] To explain why we might have been observed entering the Pathfinder Lodge, ask Thea for information about the local Azerketi community, especially their royal family. If questioned about our presence here, we can truthfully explain that we came to gather information about the sudden and unexpected wedding invitation we received.
 
Arc 6 Post 8: Of Scales Weighed
Of Scales Weighed

6th of Lamashan 4707 A.R. (Absalom Reckoning)

"Pardon, but how would you know to trust us if we took the deal and fulfilled it?" you ask after a moment's thought, tempted as you might be to say yes. Reputation, you have found, can be worth more than gold. "We have no stake in this feud on its own."

Thea seems to have half-forgotten you as people are wont to think when you are quiet, being left now to wonder at your words. "Straight arrows in strange nooks. Well alright then, the first thing you need to know about Asps is that they probably already have a plan to fuck you over, price neatly accounted for, and if you are ever more of a liability to them than the arrow it takes to kill you they'll do it in a heartbeat. There are Aspis Agents selling 'blood donors' in Mechitar and fresh infants to Hags in the marketplaces of Whitethrone." She goes on to recount an odd amalgamation of the unremarkable, raids, robbery, and making profit from the desperate and the unwise, defiling temples and holy places, and the unwholesome, dealing with cults and the fiends they bind.

"They are present in Nisroch," Sirim interjects in the middle of an account of the consortium funding a Meladaemon Cult with the reagents needed to enact a ritual of drought only to get their hooks into the previously closed wheat market of Northern Iobaria. "As an organization born of Imperial Cheliax those among the Umbral Court who know its origin count them a remnant of the humiliation of Shadowbreak, though none have yet seen the need to move in force because the Consortium has proven useful. Among other things, they are useful in keeping the Pathfinders away from Nidal and its secrets.

At the narrowing of Gorok's eyes and Mina's worried expression, the shadow mage adds smoothly: "This is of little immediate import to me as these merchants seems to prefer weaving plots wide rather than deep. Lorico Gavhaul is does not know my history, he could not even guess I am no familiar. At the same time it would be folly of me to attempt to rise in the ranks of the Consortium. Nothing I could do for them would be worth risking the wrath of the Black Triune, whereas the Pathfinders offer an obvious path for me and... for all of us. If you would have my reasoning this is a chance to turn a one time profit, large as it may be, into long term advantage "

"The best place to deal with the heel-slicers before they can deal with you would be in the Verduran, where there's plenty of other stranger things to blame for it, and..." Thea stops and stares up at the ceiling beams for a moment. "We would provide means of messaging to organize the deed. We aren't going to let your asses swing in the wind."

As the conversation had gone on Mina had looked more and more torn, not so much about the practices of the Aspis Consortium you suspect, but the sheer coldness of Sirim's rational. Most likely she had imagined him moved by loyalty to the Pathfinder Society that smuggled him out of Nidal rather than the cold rational of where he would have the best chance of advancing. On the other side of things, Cob is starting to fidget and he had already finished the piece of too salted fish he kept in his belt-pouch for such occasions. From the way he is looking at the various trophies that stud the walls he may be considering the virtues of climbing them just to see if anyone noticed him doing it.

It's likely Gorok noticed the same thing, turning to Thea and asking: "We would make many enemies to betray these merchants. Would we gain allies? Would we gain membership?"

Seemingly taken aback by the question the Venture Captain is silent a moment before admitting. "Depends on what you come back with. Field commissions are not unheard of, but they have to stand up to review from the Grand Lodge and it would be my neck on the line for it..." She notices Mina's look. "Not literally, lass. We're not like the damn asps."

Are they really, you wonder, or are they just a bit more interested in lost relics and than the price of a ton of cargo of wine and olive oil in Nisroch?

While you ponder the matter you bring up the meeting with the Azarketi and how that must have made quite a scene. It is certainly not out of the realm of possibility that someone could have followed you all the way to the lodge from the bridge, which would make the whole plan to betray Gavhaul far more risky.

Thea Goldgather Knowledge Local (DC 20): 1d20+13 = 27 (Success)

"Oh yeah, heard about that. They're buying a lot of glassware and cuttlery and such for the wedding of the Reigning Prince's youngest, Prince Cozut. I think the Northern Gillmen don't know humans as much, so the Deep House of Izenti might be keen to show off the source of their wealth. Hope they didn't pick up too much from the Ulfen, eh..." she laughs, but quickly returns to scrutinizing the five of you, six counting the cat that had taken to snoozing on Cob to keep him from doing anything too Cob-like, for answers

What does Kori think?

[] The company should agree to the betrayal offer, it's worth the risk for the short term and long term advantages

[] The company should refuse to take the deal, it is not worth the damage to your reputation
-[] Offer to share anything you learn on your return to take the sting out of the rejection (optional)

[] You should consider it (Diplomacy DC ??? to convince Thea to give you that communication device)

[] Write in


OOC: Despite being all exposition that was fun to write. Hope you guys like it.
 
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[X] The company should agree to the betrayal offer, it's worth the risk for the short term and long term advantages
 
I just realized we might need to bring a gift for the wedding. Is that something expected of guests at Azerketi weddings?

[X] The company should agree to the betrayal offer, it's worth the risk for the short term and long term advantages

six counting the cat that had taken to snoozing on Cob to keep him from doing anything too Cob-like, for answers
:lol:
 
Okay, that means we need to consider a gift. Maybe Thea can help?

[X] The company should agree to the betrayal offer, it's worth the risk for the short term and long term advantages
-[X] Ask Thea if she might be able to provide us with an appropriate wedding gift for the Azerketi Prince. Something suitably interesting, but within our limited means to purchase. If not, could she direct us to someone who can?
 
[X] The company should agree to the betrayal offer, it's worth the risk for the short term and long term advantages

Half-tempted to let the company decide a gift in their own
 
I do not like betrayals, but, yeah, major evil organisation...

[X] The company should agree to the betrayal offer, it's worth the risk for the short term and long term advantages
-[X] Ask Thea if she might be able to provide us with an appropriate wedding gift for the Azerketi Prince. Something suitably interesting, but within our limited means to purchase. If not, could she direct us to someone who can?
 
OK, looks like we are doing this.
Adhoc vote count started by DragonParadox on Apr 22, 2024 at 5:40 PM, finished with 8 posts and 5 votes.

  • [X] The company should agree to the betrayal offer, it's worth the risk for the short term and long term advantages
    [X] The company should agree to the betrayal offer, it's worth the risk for the short term and long term advantages
    -[X] Ask Thea if she might be able to provide us with an appropriate wedding gift for the Azerketi Prince. Something suitably interesting, but within our limited means to purchase. If not, could she direct us to someone who can?
 
It's a bit too late for me guys, I overestimated how much this would take and underestimated how tired I am. I'll get this up in the morning, sorry for the delay

Good night.
 
[X] The company should agree to the betrayal offer, it's worth the risk for the short term and long term advantages
-[X] Ask Thea if she might be able to provide us with an appropriate wedding gift for the Azerketi Prince. Something suitably interesting, but within our limited means to purchase. If not, could she direct us to someone who can?
 
Arc 6 Post 9: Peril's Crossing
Peril's Crossing

6th of Lamashan 4707 A.R. (Absalom Reckoning)

It sounds like the Aspis Consortium have enough blood on their boots to set a stone-maw after them, as the old saying goes, so you signal to Gorok that you're minded to accept. For a moment it looks like he might still balk at the path and if he does you're willing to back down, he's certainly proven himself to be worth more than a score in some far off forest, but in the end he does not, turning his attention instead to making sure that you'll have the hands to do the deed when the time comes.

For this purpose Thea hands him a small silver mirror and explains that it has to be fogged with the breath of a living user who can then write messages on the glass to be seen by another attuned mirror. At the moment this one is going to be linked to hers, though when you make it as far as Almas it would be wiser to link it to the mirror of Venture Captain Brackett who runs operations in the capital. He's the one who will have to arrange extraction, both with and without the loot, sending agents to dog the steps of the Consortium all the way, or so at least the dwarven Pathfinder claims. Though it does not take knowing Gorok as well as you do to tell he is as dubious at the prospect as he was at the notion of flayleaf, an acquired taste to be sure, but why would one want to acquire it? Thankfully the three small pouches she hands you do not contain spices for burning, but something with a touch of the arcane.

"Paper?" Mina frowns down at the crumpled strip that hangs from a copper chain in her hand, one of five similar talismans. "Is this a scroll?"

"I'm no wizard, lass, but if it is it's not a scroll for you to read, but when that have unfriendly eyes on you. The way I understand it, when a wizard targets you with a spell that would read a future you rather they don't read it'll read what's on the scroll, an old Tian proverb I think, then it's wiped away like any other scroll. It says: "A man who plants melons will harvest melons, and a man who plants beans will harvest beans."

"You get what you worked for?" Mina asks bemused.

"You get what you expect to see," you offer knowingly. "The best lie is the one the other person told himself going to sleep at watch-end. After all, if someone is expecting betrayal for other reasons and gets a sign that it will not be, they might try the spell again."

Gain
  • Far-Glass (Sending with linked Mirror 3/Month)
  • 4x Liar's Script Talisman (You receive a will save against all divinations aimed against you, even those that do not normally allow a save. If you succeed the caster will see what they expect)
The mirror you are expected to hand back when all this is over, as the things tarnish into uselessness if they are not washed in the waters of something called the Fountain of Copper Tears kept in the Grand Lodge in Absalom once per year. In any case they can only speak to other mirrors so treated whereas the scrolls you can keep, assuming they do not get used. All of it, you can't help but notice, is useful without being much of a loss to the Pathfinders should you prove twice false. You can appreciate the caution towards new found allies. Bad luck that smoke can't hold even paper. Sirim will just have to get by staying out of sight or out of mind.

Alas, he isn't the only one that day who manages to be so...

As you cross over the bridge and back towards the Minotaur's Horn the crowds of shoppers and tradesmen thin as they are wont to do, and cart pulled by a lazy-eyed donkey bars your way as the beast seems to have recognized Cob for a goblin and starts to stamp aggressively in his direction.

"Git! Git out of me way you darn...!"

In the middle of the driver's tirade you hear a whistling from your left, see a blur, much too fast to dodge... then the sudden flash of pain, an arrow sinking into your arm just below the shoulder.

You only get a glimpse of a fellow in felt pants and a smock, could have been any one of a dozen sailors and longshoremen you passed on the way here, if not for the fucking war-bow he's holding and the rat on his shoulder... as he vanishes again from sight under another glamor.

Perception to spot the Rat (DC 16): 1d20+ 9 = 16 (Success)
Akorian takes 11 Damage -> Now at 31/42

Akorian Fortitude Save vs ??? (DC 16): 1d20+3 = 20 (Success)

Screams ring through the street, weapons are drawn... and the cart explodes, the blast hurling Gorok into the wall of the nearest building, while Cob, quicker on his feet, is able to roll away from the worst of it. The driver, you notice, is nowhere to be seen, only the panicking mule more singed than wounded as it dashes with the wreck of the wagon down the street.

Cob takes 8 Damage -> Now at 34/42
Gorok takes 16 Damage -> Now at 36/52

What do you do?

[] This is prepared ground, you need to get out now! Force open the door to the house to your left and get out of the street

[] Invisibile or not, you know where that shot came from. Mina and Sirim can dispel the glamor, you can end this

[] Write in


OOC: It's been a while since that last ambush, it is worth keeping in mind the opposition has plans too and they come right along given enough time.
 
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@DragonParadox, can you update Sirim's spell loadout when you get a chance? This was voted on a few chapters back.

Level 0 (4): Detect Magic, Jolt, Mage Hand, Prestidigitation (At Will)
Level 1 (4+I): Color Spray, Mage Armor (uses 2 slots), Shield, Silent Image
Level 2 (3+I): Hypnotic Pattern, Invisibility, Lesser Angelic Aspect, Mirror Image
Level 3 (2+I): Dispel Magic, Haste, Shadow Enchantment

Sure, it makes sense that he would have prepared some of his new spells.
 
I can't figure out if this is a real ambush, at least one intended as a concerted attack against the whole party, or more of an assassination attempt.

Obviously it was prepared somewhat in advance, but I get the feeling it was semi-opportunistic as well. After all, an attack like this in broad daylight really limits their options to prepare and insures there will be plenty of eyes on the scene and a relatively quick response from the city guards.

I think they might have just taken the chance to try to pick off one of the group. A poisoned arrow could easily kill a low level target. And even if no one dies, they're long gone from the scene while we end up at the location of an explosion. That's memorable and hard to explain to the authorities.

Not sure if I'm overthinking this or not. It's just that our response to a real ambush should be very different compared to a hit and run assassination attempt.
 
@DragonParadox, how wide is the street we're on? How long is it? What's behind us?

The street behind you is narrow, about four and a half feet going on for lets say 50 ft. The street the wagon is on, crossing your path is about eighteen feet wide with one foot gutters on either side it goes on for hundreds of feet to the left and right, being one of the main roads in this part of copperdown. Kori does not know what's in the buildings to either side of him, there aren't any signs.
 
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