More than that traveling with large numbers of halflings. Keep in mind they are small and they do not have anything to go faster. Their base speed is 20 ft/round not the thirty of most medium sized beings.
Finding the Spark (Pathfinder 1E Quest)
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More than that traveling with large numbers of halflings. Keep in mind they are small and they do not have anything to go faster. Their base speed is 20 ft/round not the thirty of most medium sized beings.
Goldfish
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- Formerly of the Far Realm
We could do that, I guess, but I don't like the idea of turning back from Gorok's quest thus close to completing it. He probably doesn't, either.
Also, this is a great opportunity to get out of Cheliax and into Andoran, assuming we can buy passage on the ship transporting the Halflings.
@DragonParadox, how long until the Halflings are supposed to meet that ship?
The ship is meant to arrive at the meeting place in two days and leave three days later. At the rate they are going they would arrive precisely on the fifth day which means they might get it they might not.
Using the underground Gorok thinks he can cut travel to three days, but he has never traveled with a large number of people before so take that with a grain of salt.
Goldfish
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- Formerly of the Far Realm
Is Gorok willing to postpone his quest for another week or so? If he isn't onboard, I'd be fine leaving the Halflings on their own.
Goldfish
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- Formerly of the Far Realm
How is this?
[X] Agree to escort the Halflings through Nar Voth, if...
-[X] The priest agrees to take Click. Nar Voth is difficult enough to safely travel on one's own or even with a full group of adventurers, let alone when escorting a bunch of clueless surface dwellers, but brining along a helpless and hunted infant as well is one liability too many.
-[X] And Gorok is willing to postpone the completion of his quest once more. The decision is his, and we won't try to convince him otherwise.
-[X] Even if Gorok can't wait any longer, we're still going to leave Click behind.
-[X] Pepper will attempt once more to identify Click's nature, with Aid Another assistance from Mina.
[X] Agree to escort the Halflings through Nar Voth, if...
-[X] The priest agrees to take Click. Nar Voth is difficult enough to safely travel on one's own or even with a full group of adventurers, let alone when escorting a bunch of clueless surface dwellers, but brining along a helpless and hunted infant as well is one liability too many.
-[X] And Gorok is willing to postpone the completion of his quest once more. The decision is his, and we won't try to convince him otherwise.
-[X] Even if Gorok can't wait any longer, we're still going to leave Click behind.
-[X] Pepper will attempt once more to identify Click's nature, with Aid Another assistance from Mina.
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- Location
- Argentina
I would add some minor things:
-Pepper, with his Knowledge Planes bonus that he has now, will try to identify again what is Click
-Once he does that, he will change to Knowledge Nature and tell us what we could gift the Mushroom Man (he wanted mulch, right? Some things should be ebtter than others)
-Pepper switches back to Knowledge Dungeoneering while on the Darklands.
Goldfish
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- Formerly of the Far Realm
Switching isn't that easy. Mina has to get a full night's sleep to make the change in Pepper's ability.
I'll add mention of Pepper attempting another check, though. Mina should have made the switch overnight.
He is not enthusiastic about the idea, but he is willing to do it.
- Location
- St. Petersburg
Mmm.
Why leave the baby with the priest? What is he supposed to do with him, now that we know an entire inquisitor is looking for him? To spite the baron is one thing, but what do you expect him to do against other nobles, against Dukes or someone strong enough to oppose Dukes since we don't know the depth of their involvement.
Local farmers don't look enthusiastic over sheltering the infant either. The only thing keeping them from telling is them being involved in illegal activities and hating the baron more.
The priest has vows, yes, but does he have the means?
I know you reasoning is that it's not safe for a baby in the tunnels, but I don't know if it's any safer for him here on the surface either. I'd send him with the halfling overseas like the sorceress proposes.
Why leave the baby with the priest? What is he supposed to do with him, now that we know an entire inquisitor is looking for him? To spite the baron is one thing, but what do you expect him to do against other nobles, against Dukes or someone strong enough to oppose Dukes since we don't know the depth of their involvement.
Local farmers don't look enthusiastic over sheltering the infant either. The only thing keeping them from telling is them being involved in illegal activities and hating the baron more.
The priest has vows, yes, but does he have the means?
I know you reasoning is that it's not safe for a baby in the tunnels, but I don't know if it's any safer for him here on the surface either. I'd send him with the halfling overseas like the sorceress proposes.
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Goldfish
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- Formerly of the Far Realm
The priest can swap his spells around as needed, meaning he can probably prepare something to help him hide Click from incidental searches with lower level Divination magic and at least has places he could possibly be hidden for short periods of time.
We don't have any of that. Right now the baby is being hunted through relatively mundane means, but it's only a matter of time before the noble gets specialized help with the right spells or abilities to more actively find him. I don't want to have him with us when that happens.
- Location
- St. Petersburg
But we take the underground tunnels. A bit hard to follow us through that... and this is why the halflings suggested it.
If specialized magic and right spells get invoked, then low level Divination spells would be similarly useless.
If things come to a head, I think a party of adventurers has better chances than a single priest.
- Location
- Argentina
That settles it for me. We should take the detour and have the halflings take that baby away. Then it won't be our problem.
We won't get followed while on the Darklands.
- Location
- St. Petersburg
We might be beset upon leaving the tunnels if they guess our destination, which isn't too difficult since we will be travelling with former slaves.
But yes, I understand the risks and find them more acceptable than other alternatives.
[x] Agree to try to guide the halflings through Nar Voth
(as for Click's nature, didn't the Sorceress already identify him as a tiefling?)
Can't we ask her instead? They might have more experience with devils, seeing where we are.
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Goldfish
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- Formerly of the Far Realm
Scrying is only a 4th level spell, and even a poor noble could afford to pay a wizard to cast it. It won't take long to find a 7th level wizard willing to take the offered coin, not in Cheliax, even if it involves baby hunting. Being in Nar Voth won't hide us from that, being on another Plane isn't even enough to hide one from a Scrying spell.
And that ignores the chance the dude will just find someone with an Imp Familiar (this is Cheliax, after all) and pay them for the use of their Commune SLA.
The priest can probably prepare Nondetection spells, or knows someone who can, and may even have a warded or lead-lined bolthole designed specially to hide someone from Divination, since he's part of the Underground Railroad.
- Location
- Russia
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@DragonParadox , what does Iolda propose to do with child - take it with her? Can she or any of the halflings take care about baby - I am not sure that our party is specialized for that, I do not think we even have milk? Does Father Bino have any opinion about Click's future?
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She would normally leave it with the farmer or the priest, but seeing as both of those do not seem to be in the mood for that due to his heritage she would say take it with her. There are people in this group of ex slaves who know how to take care of babies and while their supplies are not what they could be one more baby is not going to show them down that much.
- Location
- St. Petersburg
Whoever left the baby to the stirges also left some means of identification for those who would find them. This wouldn't have happened if they were kidnapped; it looks like they have been sent away deliberately.
It is possible that we are the kidnappers, and the concerned party is sending out search parties. But it's not like we can ask.
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Not a lot of votes.
A note on dealing with the baby while we are on the subject. It's not actually a newborn, it is maybe... 6 to 8 months from what Mina has seen. Also I think it bears keeping in mind this is not a normal baby. Remember when it dropped out of the sky, there was a flash and there the baby was fine. Given that it could take a fall that bad and seems to have been doing well in the party's rather inexpert care so far odds are good he could take the journey if you guys are minded to do that.
Alternatively since I do not want to railroad you and the priest is an option you guys might want to actually give the priest an argument to take the seemingly infernal baby. This is Cheliax and this guy works for both political and religious organizations at odds with the state. He is not going to want Click's otherworldly parent with an eye on him. Given the lack of diplomacy you guys might want to think of a reason to make him change his mind, it would lower the DC
A note on dealing with the baby while we are on the subject. It's not actually a newborn, it is maybe... 6 to 8 months from what Mina has seen. Also I think it bears keeping in mind this is not a normal baby. Remember when it dropped out of the sky, there was a flash and there the baby was fine. Given that it could take a fall that bad and seems to have been doing well in the party's rather inexpert care so far odds are good he could take the journey if you guys are minded to do that.
Alternatively since I do not want to railroad you and the priest is an option you guys might want to actually give the priest an argument to take the seemingly infernal baby. This is Cheliax and this guy works for both political and religious organizations at odds with the state. He is not going to want Click's otherworldly parent with an eye on him. Given the lack of diplomacy you guys might want to think of a reason to make him change his mind, it would lower the DC
- Location
- Germany
Does Iomedae have opinions on inheritable sin?
Cause just saving a baby should be something a priest of a good goddess might wanna do anyway if not.
- Location
- St. Petersburg
That is only a problem if the parent is some kind of demonic nobility with lots of power and free time to spare. Which, come to think of it... is not impossible knowing that nobility on this side of the plane is involved.
But I thought the inquisitor is going to be a much more immediate problem. Putting the baby out of his reach and on the way overseas sounds like a better resolution. Even though I am annoyed at returning back underground.
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- Location
- Singapore
[X] Agree to escort the Halflings through Nar Voth, if...
-[X] The priest agrees to take Click. Nar Voth is difficult enough to safely travel on one's own or even with a full group of adventurers, let alone when escorting a bunch of clueless surface dwellers, but brining along a helpless and hunted infant as well is one liability too many.
-[X] And we'll need a day or two to finish an important quest before we can help them. Not to sound unsympathetic to their plight, but we've waded through blood, shit, and worse to complete it. We won't be turning back now when we're at the cusp of finishing our work. Don't mention what the quest is, nor even imply where we would be going to finish it.
-[X] With Mina translating for him, Kori finishes, "It's the best we can offer. If you accept, please take the time to secure any supplies you can manage. Travel rations, water skins, weapons, and so on. We should be back in a day or two."
-[X] The priest agrees to take Click. Nar Voth is difficult enough to safely travel on one's own or even with a full group of adventurers, let alone when escorting a bunch of clueless surface dwellers, but brining along a helpless and hunted infant as well is one liability too many.
-[X] And we'll need a day or two to finish an important quest before we can help them. Not to sound unsympathetic to their plight, but we've waded through blood, shit, and worse to complete it. We won't be turning back now when we're at the cusp of finishing our work. Don't mention what the quest is, nor even imply where we would be going to finish it.
-[X] With Mina translating for him, Kori finishes, "It's the best we can offer. If you accept, please take the time to secure any supplies you can manage. Travel rations, water skins, weapons, and so on. We should be back in a day or two."