"Spared no expense"-preventing industrial espionage and building on a tropical island.Yeah... if they'd built normal zoo-style enclosures, they probably could have spent the money saved on powering the electric fence to pay a better programmer.
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Building stuff like ha-has and big wooden fences around the enclosures and such would have been cheaper for Jurassic Park, if anything, since you're primarily moving earth and wood, materials that are on-site already, rather than shipping in hi-tech materials and gadgetry to your remote tropical island, with similar reduction in upkeep costs.
Reveen
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The entire thing could have been easily avoided by, y'know, not using the hyper aggressive and intelligent predators. We already have dinosaurs, that's enough for people. They're not going to poo-poo your park because you don't have T-Rexes.
And there should have been a longer timeframe to get actual zookeepers acclimated to working with these things.
And there should have been a longer timeframe to get actual zookeepers acclimated to working with these things.
Again, they were thinking of the dinos as "Products" rather than "living animals".
Reveen
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I guess it never occurred to them to take cues from the business models and operations of successful zoos when building, y'know, a zoo?
I'm usually not one to bitch about 'incompetence' in fictional character. But goddamn.
Again, they weren't thinking of it as a zoo, they were thinking of it as a display case for their shiny new products.
More worried about competitors from outside than anything originating on the site itself, ironic since they were eventually ended by an act of industrial sabotage.
And even if they didn't go for more programmers (concrete is still expensive in enough quantity), then... Nedry would turn off the security of the facility, get the embryos, maybe get away, rival gets a leg-up, *no-one gets eaten by T-rexes or raptors*.
Modern zoos are better display cases- JP has big visible fences in front of you whenever you see a big dino. A lot of newer zoos think about how to hid the boundaries or make 'em look natural so it feels like you're watching in the wild.
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As I said, the ha-ha has been around for centuries, and is designed for exactly that - animal security whilst preserving the view.
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And if the ha-ha is insufficient to one's needs, there's always the ho-ho (like a ha-ha, but deeper).
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This is why Santa is the best zookeeper.
Shanejayell
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Does 'Anime better than book' count?
Because The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya is a good series of books, but a GREAT anime, oddly enough.
Because The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya is a good series of books, but a GREAT anime, oddly enough.
ussnimitz1968
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That tends to be for two reasons - 1.) because the visual medium is much more flexible as a storytelling and narrative medium. Yes, there are some things good old printed words are good for (anymore it boils down to cost, accessibility and just maintaining basic literacy), but on the balance having a visual medium has a serious, unfair advantage. 90% of our information is visual in some nature, after all.
This is doubly true for a work that tends to rely heavily on visuals and action that would be interpreted and observed visually first-hand like TMoHS (it would be much less true for, say, a Danielle Steele romance novel that tends to be mostly dialogue-heavy [I don't real Danielle Steele so I can't verify this but you should get the idea]).
Yet another thing is that when you're adapting a work (doesn't matter from what medium onto what other medium), you've got the gift of hindsight. You not only know what works and why fans love it, but you also know what didn't work so you can either cut it out entirely or modify it to better suit what audiences would like better. This is what I was trying to get at with The Martian. Not to mention, if you're really experienced at your craft (I like to point to the director of The Hunger Games movies as a good example I'm impressed with), you also know what parts of the original source material tend to stand up better to adaptation than others, and adapt those other parts (or cute them out entirely) accordingly. This is why certain directors get paid big bucks and are chosen for specific projects (types like Micheal Bay and Zack Snyder notwithstanding). Either way, when you're adapting a work, you're working at a huge advantage compared to the original content creator, and the onus is on you make it suitable for the new medium if not outright better - if you fail blame really does rest on your shoulders (see Golden Compass, the Divergent series, yeah we can go on and on here, naturally).
And 2.) if it's the translation that tended to make a lot of rounds among Spacebattles members all those years ago - yeah, that translation was adequate and it did the job but it didn't quite communicate entirely what was going on. It was clear they were going for as literal a translation as possible without, say, maybe looking at the anime and drawing inspiration in regards to what's actually happening.
This is doubly true for a work that tends to rely heavily on visuals and action that would be interpreted and observed visually first-hand like TMoHS (it would be much less true for, say, a Danielle Steele romance novel that tends to be mostly dialogue-heavy [I don't real Danielle Steele so I can't verify this but you should get the idea]).
Yet another thing is that when you're adapting a work (doesn't matter from what medium onto what other medium), you've got the gift of hindsight. You not only know what works and why fans love it, but you also know what didn't work so you can either cut it out entirely or modify it to better suit what audiences would like better. This is what I was trying to get at with The Martian. Not to mention, if you're really experienced at your craft (I like to point to the director of The Hunger Games movies as a good example I'm impressed with), you also know what parts of the original source material tend to stand up better to adaptation than others, and adapt those other parts (or cute them out entirely) accordingly. This is why certain directors get paid big bucks and are chosen for specific projects (types like Micheal Bay and Zack Snyder notwithstanding). Either way, when you're adapting a work, you're working at a huge advantage compared to the original content creator, and the onus is on you make it suitable for the new medium if not outright better - if you fail blame really does rest on your shoulders (see Golden Compass, the Divergent series, yeah we can go on and on here, naturally).
And 2.) if it's the translation that tended to make a lot of rounds among Spacebattles members all those years ago - yeah, that translation was adequate and it did the job but it didn't quite communicate entirely what was going on. It was clear they were going for as literal a translation as possible without, say, maybe looking at the anime and drawing inspiration in regards to what's actually happening.
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*flashback to Endless Eight*
Little Sister with red eyes and the voice of hell: "KYON-KUN DENWA"
...Arguable.
Seriously, though, the series is definitely good in terms of acting, animation, music, etc. And the dub is legit amazing.
But that production decision to adapt a looped day examined in one novel/story into eight episodes of a primetime anime was quite possibly one of the most boneheaded decisions an anime studio has ever made, kneecapping any prospect of future seasons, as the critical and fan backlash killed the series' hype and led to trouble securing funding -- by which time a lot of the fandom had moved on to new stuff.
There's a reason we only really got the Disappearance movie, though I'll happily call that one a masterpiece.
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This immediately brings up the question of which anime adaption is being talked about; there were two adaption series.
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Season one I think was great. Season two... well... endless eight.
ussnimitz1968
Wish I wasn't a big giant boat.
I think that was a gamble they lost because they thought they were being more clever then they were, and perhaps thought people would've been more appreciative of being faithful to the source material (or perhaps taking the title too literally) then what turned out (which goes back to what I keep talking about knowing what to keep 100% the same, what to adapt with or without a vengeance and what to throw out entirely). Content creators don't make bad/bad faith decisions intentionally as, which you have plainly seen, making them accidentally kills their prospects well enough as it is.
There is few things worse in media than an artiste creator who thinks his audience is clever and will appreciate subtlety.
He may be right. Sometimes. But even those people don't appreciate "subtlety" if you bore them out of their skulls or confuse the fuck out of them.
"Subtlety" is neither of the above.
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Please, the Park was already coming apart in the books, all Nedry did was crank it up a notch.
Rule of thumb, when you treat your programmer and staff like mushrooms, and give them a shoestring budget, you don't get to complain when bugs crop up and he has to get more cash to fix all of them.
Especially since you went and automated EVERYTHING, with no real manual backups if shit got real.
Endless Eight did do one thing well: if you sat through the whole thing, you have some idea of just what Nagato experienced, which ultimately led to Disappearance. The problem is that the idea cannot really sustain itself beyond 3 episodes (base version, realize there's something wrong but fail to make a difference and the conclusion).
Omegahugger
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I actually enjoyed Endless Eight... Once it was over, that is.
It is a lot easier to appreciate the work that went into it when looking at it in hindsight.
It is a lot easier to appreciate the work that went into it when looking at it in hindsight.