i thought i put an s in front of he. I must of read what i meant rather then i typed when i checked the post before hitting send.Insufficient Dakka said:
Falling Iron (IM MCU/WORM)
- Thread starter Arthur Hansen
- Start date
- Crossover
Chloe Sullivan
Subdefective
- Location
- 1630 Revello Drive, Sunnydale CA
pacing the the last chapter was far too choppy. You rushed past things that should have been handled with less telling and more showing.
Instead of giving a not very satisfying short explaining of everything, explain the frak out of a few things and leave the others to implication. That works wonders for Sanderson.
Instead of giving a not very satisfying short explaining of everything, explain the frak out of a few things and leave the others to implication. That works wonders for Sanderson.
She's fat because she can't exercise at all, because of her injuries sustained in the line of fire where she was basically saving the world. I kinda doubt Tony, the man with a nuclear reactor in his chest would mock her at all. Because it would strike kinda close to home.Odysseus2099 said:
He might offer to make her an artificial kidney implant with Stark-tech, however. And, since he isn't a parahuman, she might well agree (as I think her main objection to Panacea healing her was that, well, Panacea was an unstable (as some of PRT psychologists had to have guessed) teenage parahuman)
wkz
Probably on the other side of the world from you
Erm, am I the only one of the opinion that Tony would TOTALLY mock those who would be saving the world? Friendlily of course, but I doubt Piggot is one of those who could take a joke.Yog said:
You know, if and when Tony finds out about Dragon being an AI, will he team up to create robotic bodies for Jarvis? I mean, that's what the Iron Legion functioned as, but those were also designed to act as suits, limiting their form and how much can be put into them. I mean, Defiant started altering his body, simply because he couldn't fit everything into his suit.
On Tony being not a parahuman at all. When it is found out (pretty soon, I would bet, as they may give him a physical now, if they don't know it already because of Panacea), I can easily see PRT trying to promote him into director's office of one of PRT branches. Perhaps even Brockton Bay's one (with Piggot potentially supporting this decision and stepping down / retiring).
Think about it. Tony is charismatic. Tony is both a normal human and a powerful cape - someone who would appeal both to the general American population (at least to republicans I think) and to the parahumans he would be in charge of (because he's a cape who would understand their problems). He has experience in leading people (head of Stark industries). He has combat experience. He's perfect for the job.
Now, of course Tony could well decline in lieu of leading his own team (based around Stark Industries reborn). If he does, he's still likely to get lots of support from PRT - at that point they support rogues and independents, I believe, and any such team Tony makes would basically be "PRT, inc.".
if Tony does start his own team, who would be on it? That's a question, and a good one. Taylor is almost certain (especially if/when Sophia comes into play). Other than that... Hm, I can see him getting at least some of the New Wave (Brandish for her lawyer skills if nothing else) and maybe Uber and Leet too (hey, those guys are funny, even if they are idiots and villains).
One point however, is that Dragon, in terms of algorithms, is far more advanced than Jarvis. Tony would probably be interested in that.
Think about it. Tony is charismatic. Tony is both a normal human and a powerful cape - someone who would appeal both to the general American population (at least to republicans I think) and to the parahumans he would be in charge of (because he's a cape who would understand their problems). He has experience in leading people (head of Stark industries). He has combat experience. He's perfect for the job.
Now, of course Tony could well decline in lieu of leading his own team (based around Stark Industries reborn). If he does, he's still likely to get lots of support from PRT - at that point they support rogues and independents, I believe, and any such team Tony makes would basically be "PRT, inc.".
if Tony does start his own team, who would be on it? That's a question, and a good one. Taylor is almost certain (especially if/when Sophia comes into play). Other than that... Hm, I can see him getting at least some of the New Wave (Brandish for her lawyer skills if nothing else) and maybe Uber and Leet too (hey, those guys are funny, even if they are idiots and villains).
He very well could (though I think he'll be interested in biological computers Dragon is experimenting with at that point too).Gore17 said:
One point however, is that Dragon, in terms of algorithms, is far more advanced than Jarvis. Tony would probably be interested in that.
Isn't this one of the reasons Tony keeps the chest reactor?Gore17 said:
wkz
Probably on the other side of the world from you
They met for all of 10 or so seconds before Tony had his panic attack.Ehn said:But most importantly: when is Tony going to meet Dennis?
Hope that doesn't paint perspectives too negatively...
Edit: oops. Guess I was wrong about that.
Arthur Hansen
Author of no Authority.
- Location
- Utah, behind the Zion Curtain.
To the PRT, that might be a slippery slope issue.Yog said:
"It's okay to let a non-parahuman super-power in charge. We're only biased against people with a thing in their brains!" That's one way of making the Case 53 situation worse.
No, I don't think there was a totally good explanation other than Tony Stark freaking out and letting other people mess with his heart and wound.Yog said:
This depends on how P.R. spins it, I think. I mean, both Tagg (SP?) and Piggot are badasses who were parts of Parahuman Responce Teams (PRT). They led and participated in combat against parahumans. Where do you place the distinction? Tony's only talent in that he's smart. He doesn't have "unfair" advantages. I mean, if he can't be a PRT director because he designed a power armor, does it mean that they should ban anyone with engineering degree from being a PRT director? Both decisions are a slippery slope. Both would ultimately depend on how much they need Tony and how much they want him in charge of anything (and how much he wants to be in charge).arthurh3535 said:
Arthur Hansen
Author of no Authority.
- Location
- Utah, behind the Zion Curtain.
Problem is he's 'known' to be a cape with power armor. Even if he doesn't have a super-power, he still sorta is. And Tony doesn't want to be a PRT leader, so they can quietly ignore the problem without setting a bad precedent.Yog said:
Which is, ultimately, all that matters. Though he could be an inspiration to normal people. "If you study well enough, you too will be able to become a cape!".arthurh3535 said:
If Imp hasn't got her "Don't Notice Me" power yet, Taylor is so taking thatEhn said:Oh for the love of Luna, Taylor did mouth to mouth with Tony to save him right? I can see that tidbit making his way into the conversation and having Taylor so embarrassed she second triggers on the spot
I vote that all of Tony's stats get a star next to them and a footnote that reads, 'WTF? Alien earth-Gimel bullshit magic. Also, watch for actual trigger event.'Gore17 said:
Oh, for the love of....BadHabits said:
It is outright called magic by the Asgardians. Yes, it can be scientifically observed, understood and replicated. It is still magic, as that's what it's actually called.
If it helps, the word magic is descended from the name for a priesthood, which was later linked to the reading of stars. The term and it's descendants then became linked to more and more things, including certain knowledge.
"Magic is just insufficiently analyzed science" - Agatha HeterodyneKalaong said:
Sorry for starting it off.Tavi said:
But for what it's worth, my vote is with Florence.Kalaong said:
Arthur Hansen
Author of no Authority.
- Location
- Utah, behind the Zion Curtain.
That's, uh, a misquote.Gore17 said:
Thor stated that what Asgard had is what human called magic and now call science. To them it is one and the same.
Thor quote from movie said:
Hogun calls Loki "a master of magic".arthurh3535 said:
My point is that "magic", with regards to the Asgardians, is the English name they use for the basics of their technology and certain learned abilities/powers. Saying "it's not magic, because it can be scientifically analysed" is incorrect, because that's the name/word they use for it.
Aka: when it comes to the Asgardian stuff, magic really is the correct term when referring to it.
Aka: when it comes to the Asgardian stuff, magic really is the correct term when referring to it.
EnderofWorlds
Kneel, mongrel
- Location
- My Ship of Light in the Cosmos
How is this in any way relevant to Iron Man tech; thought up by and created by a regular, albeit very intelligent, man who is in no way a parahuman? And who uses different methods than the Asgardians to create these devices?Gore17 said:
Arthur Hansen
Author of no Authority.
- Location
- Utah, behind the Zion Curtain.
I'm just going to leave it that in Marvel the line between Magic and Cosmic power is dang gray and wide. When you have cosmic powers that can change the laws of physics... it might as well be magic. Some of Quasar's stuff was right out there.
I miss Quasar...
I miss Quasar...
The Unicorn said:
Let's not do this here? We just recently had this debate in the different thread. It led to nothing, pretty much. We should either abandon it, or make a separate thread for it (and not here, but rather in space battles general debate forum, I believe). Because to me it seems like you are operating using very different meanings of the word "magic" and are talking past one another.Selonianth said:
Nope. Quantum physics outright breaks the rules of classic physics. Starting from how electrons don't fall into the nuclei (which they would have if they were classical). Or how an electron can tunnel through a barrier. The probabilistic nature of quantum mechanics also outright violates the core principles of classical mechanics. And then you have wave-particle dualism. You seem to have the strange notion of what "the rules" are, but I'm not getting into that discussion again.Selonianth said: