Rinn
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First impression: Why the hell did this not blow up more than it did? SoD is wavering on that, a bit. Piggot being an oblivious bitch, however, is par for the course, and about what I expected.
Falling Iron (IM MCU/WORM)
- Thread starter Arthur Hansen
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First impression: Why the hell did this not blow up more than it did? SoD is wavering on that, a bit. Piggot being an oblivious bitch, however, is par for the course, and about what I expected.
PKRudeboy
Gentleman Snarker
I see a very persistent lice infestation in Sophia's future at the very least.
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And Scabies.
And many other little insects that like to... get under your skin.
(Yes, I know it's a bad joke, please don't hurt me.)
Arthur Hansen
Author of no Authority.
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Would you start a fight in front of all of the Protectorate, Piggot and all of the other Wards?
Nah, because Taylor knows that Sophia will try (and probably successfully) get that blamed on her.
A separate comment on the chapter: when Tony commented about arm mounted repulsers, there is a possible use from the second movie though not used since then where against very powerful enemies he could "cross the streams" and get a similar effect to when the Ghostbusters' proton packs "cross the streams". If Tony was still in making as lethal weapons as possible, he could have later easily made some kind of reality warheads where that effect could have been used intentionally.
Maybe Tony could arrange for Taylor to be able to make various cyborg bugs for use (basically remote controlled robots). The heavy combat ones might resemble the main character from Yar's Revenge game:http://s278.photobucket.com/user/cdwmusic/media/yarsrevenge_09.jpg.html Others could be far smaller (for stealth). Maybe even use bug brains for making various equipment that could emulate those from the movie Runaway.
Maybe Tony could arrange for Taylor to be able to make various cyborg bugs for use (basically remote controlled robots). The heavy combat ones might resemble the main character from Yar's Revenge game:http://s278.photobucket.com/user/cdwmusic/media/yarsrevenge_09.jpg.html Others could be far smaller (for stealth). Maybe even use bug brains for making various equipment that could emulate those from the movie Runaway.
Arthur Hansen
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He will want to see how her powers work first. The most he is going to do is a light (for him) armor.
Inverness
The Foxiest Wife
Nah, you weren't being too subtle, I was just too quick to reply after only skimming your post.That's pretty much exactly what I was aiming for, just you know, with more Tony style snark to get across to the person he thinks they are an idiot.
Though I agree, I was probably being too subtle to really capture the true essence that is Tony Stark interacting with somebody he thinks is an idiot.See the congressional briefings at the start of the second Iron Man movie for what he'd really be like.
Taylor might not fight but she would sure as hell let everyone know exactly what Sophia did. Taylor and Sophia's behaviors are far too underwhelming. Taylor is discovering that the person that caused her to trigger has been a Ward the whole time, and Sophia is discovering that her probation violation's are doubtlessly going to come to light in the worst way and she couldn't possibly hide them at this point.
Not only do I disagree with this but Taylor would not nearly be rational enough at the moment to wait in any way.
Sorry, but my SoD has been thoroughly taken out back and shot. There is no way a revelation like this could have any sort of "understanding" or go quietly just because the Wards and Tony are there. Canon Taylor was willing to go to the Birdcage over working with Sophia in the Wards. Whether she would have gone through with that is irrelevant since that is an example of the kind of headspace she was in after learning about this. You're doing a great disservice to Taylor by brushing over just how badly the bullying and trigger event affected her.
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einargs
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WoG wildbow said that piggot would have said deal with it despite the locker.Nah, you weren't being too subtle, I was just too quick to reply after only skimming your post.
Taylor might not fight but she would sure as hell let everyone know exactly what Sophia did. Taylor and Sophia's behaviors are far too underwhelming. Taylor is discovering that the person that caused her to trigger has been a Ward the whole time, and Sophia is discovering that her probation violation's are doubtlessly going to come to light in the worst way and she couldn't possibly hide them at this point.
Not only do I disagree with this but Taylor would not nearly be rational enough at the moment to wait in any way.
Sorry, but my SoD has been thoroughly taken out back and shot. There is no way a revelation like this could have any sort of "understanding" or go quietly just because the Wards and Tony are there. Canon Taylor was willing to go to the Birdcage over working with Sophia in the Wards. Whether she would have gone through with that is irrelevant since that is an example of the kind of headspace she was in after learning about this. You're doing a great disservice to Taylor by brushing over just how badly the bullying and trigger event affected her.
Arthur Hansen
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Which is what I basically wrote here. Taylor is pissed, but she's not the sort to attack in a blind anger.
einargs
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ah I see. I've seen some interesting fics where weaver joins the wards and suicides. the fallout is glourious. plus the whole 'the world is fucked deal'
Rinn
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If someone tortured and humiliated me for a year and a half, then locked me in a metal box filled with bio-hazardous waste for long enough to trigger (twice, though Taylor doesn't exactly know that), then got off scot-free, only to continue their campaign of torture afterwards (with no end in sight); yes. I would start that fight. Especially as Taylor is smart enough to extrapolate exactly why the school/hospital/police basically ignored the horrible attack on her person. As she said, "I thought that the Wards and transferring to Arcadia was going to put them behind me."
Getting away from Sophia and the others was her entire end goal; finding out that not only did she not escape, but just signed a contract that forces close proximity... the situation getting exacerbated by Piggy being Piggy would just put the turd-flavored icing on the shitcake. If I were in Taylor's position, I would flip my shit and kick Sophia's ass, no matter what the bureaucrat wanted. Especially if the bureaucrat started barking at me about 'tough nuggets, you get to deal'.
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Arthur Hansen
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Yes, but you are equating that an alleged aggravated assault with her being put into prison. There's other things that Piggot can do before losing a potential cape to fight the gangs.
einargs
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piggot "knows" that all supers are like that anyway, so she just tries to co-opt their insanity. basically she feels that all supers are like this, they're just more careful.
Czlyydwr Llrngwl
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You've got two parts marked as part IV, with the index link going to the second, just so you know. (All the subsequent part numbers are off by one, in other words.) I happened to notice that the one directly after pt. III didn't have the same start as when I closed the tab to go to what was linked as pt. IV, but if someone missed that they'd think you skipped over the Dragonslayers' attack to when the survivor woke up in custody. It's a fjun story, I'm glad you've come back to it.
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Arthur Hansen
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The second linked one should be the more up to date.
Inverness
The Foxiest Wife
What Piggot would do is irrelevant. What Taylor would do is flip her shit.
Your claim of that being WoG also lacks context, since what Wildbow said specifically has to do with how difficult it is to kick a Ward out from a bureaucratic and PR perspective. That doesn't mean PIggot would brush over things or not throw the book at Sophia for both violating her probation and being everything she hates about parahumans.
Taylor wanted to be a hero to escape the hell created by her bullying. To find out she is walking right back into it in an even greater capacity than before would be horrible. And I mean contemplate suicide type horrible assuming she couldn't run for the hills for whatever reason.
Alleged is underselling what happened. That Taylor trigger from the experience makes it quite a bit more than what people try to imply when they use the term "alleged" in that context. Every non-Cauldron parahuman in that room knows what serious business trigger events are. They're going to be on Taylor's side by default. Not only that but Tony is conveniently there to blow the lid on that whole bit of corruption.
Besides, why the hell would Tony be so dismissive of Taylor if he knew what was going on? This is someone who has seen some shit and has PTSD.
Either way, what happened in this scene is impossible. Taylor does not have the self-control or desire to calmly handle a reveal like that.
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Czlyydwr Llrngwl
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No, the second one, with the link, comes after it. The unlinked one is the attack on Tony's lab, the linked one is when whatsername wakes up in custody after the attack.
I both do and don't want to see this. Link?
Arthur Hansen
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If Taylor attack Sophia right now, she loses. All she will end up doing is getting herself thrown into prison, just like she feared if she ever sicced her insects on the trio.
Taylor is dealing with it... for now. That is not to say the entire situation is resolved. Piggot is going to be researching things closer.
That is not to say that afterwards that Sophia is going to prison. That is only a possibility (and a small one, because the PRT is desperate for capes that can fight villains.)
Taylor is dealing with it... for now. That is not to say the entire situation is resolved. Piggot is going to be researching things closer.
That is not to say that afterwards that Sophia is going to prison. That is only a possibility (and a small one, because the PRT is desperate for capes that can fight villains.)
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Nice chapter, but this doesn't sound like Taylor. Even assuming in this AU she's not suffering from depression (which seems very odd) and is confident enough to assert herself like this (which I agree makes sense) "can do an awful lot" doesn't sound like Taylor. maybe something like "you'd be surprised at how much I can do with it".
This was very believable up until the last line here. Either Taylor believes Piggot knows about all of Sophia's attacks and is condoning them - in which case there's no way she'd accept Piggot's criticism, or she'd realize Piggot doesn't know anything what Sophia did in which case she'd
Not saying Taylor would be unwilling to work with the Wards, or possibly even Sophia once she'd calmed down - especially if there's some indication the PRT/Protectorate is not simply paying lip service to caring about Taylor being hurt but will actually try and punish Sophia. However at this point with Taylor surprised and tempers running high Taylor backing down and agreeing to stick with the Wards doesn't make sense.
Nice scene, although I'm pretty sure in canon Vista bent matter not space. If she could bend space like you have her doing here she should be a high level blaster in addition to her shaker powers.
Why souldn't Tony visit the school? After the visit to Winslow and them sitting and eating lunch in the Cafeteria (and presumably half the school snapping pics and posting them on the web) any attempt to keep "Taylor Hebert is Tony Stark's personal assistant" secret would be futile, especially as they used real names in filling out the documents for that.
Additionally that would make keeping the fact that Taylor's a cape secret much easier.
Czlyydwr Llrngwl
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I agree with that, but I would believe her saying, "No, fuck this, I'm out. Any team with Sophia Hess on it is a team I'm not joining," and head straight out the door before what you've got here.
ETA: And more likely a screaming fit of what Sophia's done to her, as others have noted, yes.
Also, it seems the chapter linked as IV is also linked as VI, somehow, to clear up that bugaboo.
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Inverness
The Foxiest Wife
First of all, you seem to be under the impression that Taylor would be able to act rationally in that situation. That is unlikely.
Secondly, I never suggested Taylor attack Sophia. I said she should be screaming, either literally or metaphorically, about her situation and the shit she has been through because of Sophia. That the bully that caused her to trigger is a Ward is inconceivable but explains why nothing was done.
There is no "dealing with it". if you think that you don't understand the character you're writing. This is someone that would sooner go to the Birdcage that work with Sophia.
Let me drag up that quote:
Worm 8.7 said:
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A fight? No, not unless I completely lost my temper. A screaming match with Piggot, starting with "DO YOU KNOW WHAT SHE DID???!!?!!!" You bet. The fact that this is actually the best time to have this sort of thing would be secondary to the emotional overload forcing that rant.
Which is quite believable. it's even believable for Taylor to, eventually accept and calm down. Her reaction in this story however is not believable.
And once Taylor sees she's willing to do some of those to Sophia her calming down and agreeing to work with Sophia makes sense.
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Well if we consider population demographics, Africa, China, Russia, Mexico then about 80 or so percent of parahumans are villains or worse.
In america is 3 to 1