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Faith in Superior Firepower [Planetary Annihilation Multicross SI]

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To be fair, the Quarians would have crammed a lot more onto the Corvette normally... Except the Corvette in my fic is a picket ship. AKA, a nice, crunchy ablative tripwire for anything going wrong.

So it has minimal crew plus a marine squad assigned for boarding/salvage/other general red shirt operations.
 
Necratoid said:
Combined perception and thought pattern thing on my end then. I think it stands out because its the only black on the ship, which draws attention to it. Looks like half a domino mask to me, now that you point it out I can see what you were going for. Though the drawing makes it look to close to ship not to risk setting it on fire. Also it looks like its against the ship under the wing. I thought it was a matter of back swept wings like the Normandy has and an orange, primary engine thruster.
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The engine actually extends slightly behind the back of the ship, but you're right it is rather close when viewed from the front (or behind, or the top, etc). And yeah, they're mounted to the wings, not the body, but the picture angle does make that kind of unclear.

Though it looks rather space only in build that way... all the aerodynamics of the Mystery Machine from Scooby Doo, with wings to go faster. Probably the low polygons there... it doesn't help my brain didn't start off with flying Nerf gun as basis... or that I looked at the pic and then read the chapter so I can't unsee my first thought.
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It is space only. The Faith Foundation (will) have other units to provide air support for troops on the ground. Remember, they're a PMC, not an army. They shouldn't be going up against anything on the surface that needs frigate level firepower to destroy.

Instead its forward swept wings (which makes it look like a highly aggressive dive attacker) and this relatively huge spinal mount gun. Now that I'm thinking Nerf gun and know what your going for I want to add a third engine on the center top and add something on the center front to give it an iron sight motif. Such is my brain.
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Mass Effect and Haloverse ships are somewhat similar in that their design amounts to 'gun with engines, with a military firebase stapled to each side*', and the Faith Foundation took cues from both.

Honestly, I'm not to happy with the first generation Birch Frigates either - I much prefer the style of wing I had on the Rowan and Junipers. At some point I'll probably make a Birch-II, with better wings and stuff, so those suggestions are nice to hear.


*Well, the smaller ME ships anyway. Dreadnoughts, if I remember correctly, are built so that the Spinal gun points 'up' relative to the interior, so that inertia against the ship's thrusters can simulate gravity. Or something like that.

So no, those laws aren't stupid, its that they are a product of a different era. In the origin era it was 'the more realistic the better', now because of these laws its 'Nerf or Nothing'. Funny how things change.
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"It's not stupid, it's just that the context has made it stupid." < the message I'm getting from that.

I understand the purpose of the laws, and I understand that they exist for a valid reason. I just think it's kind of a silly solution to the problem. I dunno though, America's solutions to gun crime in general seem pretty dumb*. Plus I have this terrible thing where I say things that don't entirely represent what I mean because I cannot into thinking. Its kinda problematic but eh.

*I mean, really.
"Oh no, kids in schools are being shot! I know, lets PUT MORE GUNS IN SCHOOLS."
"Gay club got shot up? This wouldn't have happened if they'd had MORE GUNS!"

Seriously, America. More dakka is only a good solution if you don't care about collateral damage.

Mandabar said:
Wait that's the front of the ship? Huh. I totally thought that was the back end of the ship and it was the engine.
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Why the hell would I make the primary picture of the ship the one of its ass? That just seems silly.

Also generally the name of the ship is written near the front and the bridge is at the back (although admittedly the bridge doesn't look much like a bridge), and they were supposed to be kind of tip-offs about that. Ah well. See previous post re: me cannot into sketchup.
 
It certainly looks better than the ME ships I'm working on. Those are literally "pointy thing with hugeass engines strapped to the side. Yours looks like an actual warship as opposed to my "go as fast as possible" ships.

Which gives me wonderful Ideas for the dreadnoughts, actually.
 
vyor said:
When the number of guns or other self defence tools in schools numbers 0... Seriously, even when they have security guards they don't have anything to actually help with.
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The most worrying part of that is that American schools need security guards. The most security most Aussie schools have are motion sensors, cameras, and decent locks for the computer labs. God the USA is fucked up.


In regards to protection from gun crime, instead of giving out more guns and thus making them easier to obtain, they could take the route of Japan and make it nigh impossible to get guns. Japan had six gun deaths in 2014. USA had 33,599. That's 92 a day. In the time it's taken me to research and write this post, two people have died to gun crime.

Seriously, just take away the guns! If no one has guns, no one gets shot. Fuckin duh!

Of course, taking away all the guns would be rather difficult by this point, because so many Americans have guns (and many of them would be unwilling to give them up) that going around collecting them all would be a right PITA, even with the information of every registered gun holder on record. Not to mention guns that aren't recorded, which I imagine exist in some capacity due to organised crime.

And it's all thanks to the oh-so-precious Second Amendment.

Anyways, there are other threads for this. The 'Superior Firepower' in this thread's title is supposed to refer to fictional depictions of firepower only. If you'd like to continue this, either PM me or tag me in a post in the appropriate thread.
 
I can make a gun, our culture has the ability to defend ourselves from everything and everyone as a major tenet. If the US suddenly decides to remove all guns. I would start making guns on principle.

Guns maybe a tool with one use, but the adage that id rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it is apropos.
 
Faith said:
The most worrying part of that is that American schools need security guards. The most security most Aussie schools have are motion sensors, cameras, and decent locks for the computer labs. God the USA is fucked up.


In regards to protection from gun crime, instead of giving out more guns and thus making them easier to obtain, they could take the route of Japan and make it nigh impossible to get guns. Japan had six gun deaths in 2014. USA had 33,599. That's 92 a day. In the time it's taken me to research and write this post, two people have died to gun crime.

Seriously, just take away the guns! If no one has guns, no one gets shot. Fuckin duh!

Of course, taking away all the guns would be rather difficult by this point, because so many Americans have guns (and many of them would be unwilling to give them up) that going around collecting them all would be a right PITA, even with the information of every registered gun holder on record. Not to mention guns that aren't recorded, which I imagine exist in some capacity due to organised crime.

And it's all thanks to the oh-so-precious Second Amendment.

Anyways, there are other threads for this. The 'Superior Firepower' in this thread's title is supposed to refer to fictional depictions of firepower only. If you'd like to continue this, either PM me or tag me in a post in the appropriate thread.
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Okay, I see people use Japan as model for extremely strict gun control all the damn time and it annoys me because people fail to realize just how long it took for Japan to disarm in the first place, and how much of a mess said disarmament lead to, and just see it as some magical gun free country.

Japan started disarming the populace at the end of the Sengoku era, starting with Imperial Regent Toyotomi Hideyoshi ordering the second great sword hunt in 1588 which hardened Japan's class structure and limited the 'right to bear arms' solely to those born as samurai, and his successors kept implementing similar policies until the end of the Meiji Restoration in 1912, some 324 years later. Every period of further disarmament lead to large amounts of social upheaval, most notably the Satsuma Rebellion of 1877 which is commonly romanticized as being the 'last stand of the samurai.'

The Meiji ended with the right own a weapon being solely vested in the standing Japanese Military and people with close ties to the military, the problems with which became readily apparent in the the great depression, with the early 1930s japan being swamped in a massive number of assassinations and attempted military coups in incidents like the League of Blood Incident, May 15 incident, or the 2-26 incident. All of this chaos lead to the mess that Japan's government and military was in heading into WW2, which I won't go into details on because Shattered Sword explains it far better than I ever could (seriously, read Shattered Sword if you haven't, people).

But yea, sorry about the short rant but it always annoys when people make out Japan as a magical gun-free country, because it is impossible to divorce a countries current state from the historical context that lead to such a state, as hysteresis affects nations just as much as any other complex system.

I'm done now.
 
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Torisuke said:
Okay, I see people use Japan as model for extremely strict gun control all the damn time and it annoys me because people fail to realize just how long it took for Japan to disarm in the first place, and how much of a mess said disarmament lead to, and just see it as some magical gun free country.
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How Japan got there isn't really relevant, since I'm talking about the end state and not the process, but I referred to it anyway.
Faith said:
Of course, taking away all the guns would be rather difficult by this point,
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And, again:
Faith said:
Anyways, there are other threads for this.
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So if anyone else would like to post about guns: please don't. Either talk about the last chapter or wait for the next.
 
Faith said:
The most worrying part of that is that American schools need security guards. The most security most Aussie schools have are motion sensors, cameras, and decent locks for the computer labs. God the USA is fucked up.


In regards to protection from gun crime, instead of giving out more guns and thus making them easier to obtain, they could take the route of Japan and make it nigh impossible to get guns. Japan had six gun deaths in 2014. USA had 33,599. That's 92 a day. In the time it's taken me to research and write this post, two people have died to gun crime.

Seriously, just take away the guns! If no one has guns, no one gets shot. Fuckin duh!

And it's all thanks to the oh-so-precious Second Amendment.
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I really, really fucking hate it when people get all up in arms over guns deaths and people getting shot.

This is going to Sound really fucking stupid, but GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE, PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE.

Wanna hear something fun,? China is thinking about banning knives over... I think 6 inches because they have problems with mass stabbings.

When Australia banned guns, the gun deaths dropped like a fucking rock, while stabbing took off like a fucking rocket.

Banning Guns doesn't do shit but take Guns out of the hands of LAW-AIDING CITIZENS, and make it so only CRIMINALS have Guns.

How many total Murders per X population happen country Y, as compared to the United States is what you want, not murders with Guns.

Finally, According to Japan vs United States: Crime Facts and Stats, the murder per 100,000 inhabitants in the US is ~5, while Japan is ~1. This is not only due to Gun Control, but due to the way laws are enforced, the culture of the country, and other various factors.

Finally, Should anyone wish to debate this more, I will make a Thread that we can debate in.

And I just saw glitchrr36's post
 
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Let's stop debating gun control, please? There's a thread for it and the OP told you to knock it off.
 
So, to make a joke about this...

In Planetary Annihilation, robots don't kill people(/planets), Commanders do!

I should be ashamed of myself. But I'm not ;)
 
There's only one gun-related topic that matters here: How big of a gun can Faith build, and how can she make it bigger?
 
Dragontrapper said:
There's only one gun-related topic that matters here: How big of a gun can Faith build, and how can she make it bigger?
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Take an asteroid, or preferably planet and strap as many Halleys as necessary to move it forwards.
Now make a giant tube to guide said bullet world towards a target.
Third activate the Halleys.

May not be a gun, but it works as a giant RPG / Bazooka analogue.
 
Electric_Zhengyi said:
Take an asteroid, or preferably planet and strap as many Halleys as necessary to move it forwards.
Now make a giant tube to guide said bullet world towards a target.
Third activate the Halleys.

May not be a gun, but it works as a giant RPG / Bazooka analogue.
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One better - same idea, but replace 'Asteroid' with 'star' and 'Halley' with 'Shkadov thruster'
 
Dragontrapper said:
One better - same idea, but replace 'Asteroid' with 'star' and 'Halley' with 'Shkadov thruster'
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ltmauve said:
Make a black hole. Turn off gravity throughout it. Use gravity manipulation to turn the omnidirectional blast into a beam.
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We weren't discussing the other commanders *Cough Cough Drich Cough Fusou Cough*

We are discussing the largest feasible weapon that can be designed and utilized by Faith ignoring all other commanders and using only her own tech
 
Electric_Zhengyi said:
We are discussing the largest feasible weapon that can be designed and utilized by Faith ignoring all other commanders and using only her own tech
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Well, a Shkadov thruster is just a big mirror, that Faith can make (it'll take her a while though.)
The black hole weapon may or may not be in her reach. She does have the singularity cannon, and she does have eezo tech, so maybe?
 
Build an Eezo core. A big one, like frigate sized. Turn it to max negative gravity. Shoot it out of a huge rail gun. Fire it at FTL velocity. turn it off at one point.

Watch as it collapses into a blackhole, then let that explode.
 
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