[Exalted/SMT] Shard of a Broken Sun

Cytokinesis said:
Way, way, way too many to even contemplate unless we're treating her as a sacrificial lamb. That thing shouldn't even be compatible with Glory to the Most High, it's a Native Infernal charm, and it'd be cludged together without any preparation whatsoever.

My personal guess is 20 limit if we try.
Hm, true.

What if we literally turn her into a Primordial? As in, all the way up to Amu Primordial Principal, then detach and find a human to Exalt in the wake of all this? Would she/it/they be able to undergo a bunch of Torments and recover?
 
[ ] Alectai's Stunt.

Because even if I don't totally like it, I can't think of anything actually better.
 
I had "All Evil of the World" playing when I was reading this. ... Why is their no evil grin face in the smilies section? :mad:

Alectai's write-in could work fairly well and should mitigate some of the price we need to pay. We still need to decide if we want to go all in or for a lesser victory though. Unless that was in the write-in and I just missed it because sleepy.
 
Part of me wants to have Amu use the concept of her fingers to make the concept of a fist, then introduce the concept of a punch to the concept of Kagatsuchi's big fat face. Conceptually speaking, of course.

Aside from that, I got nothin', aside from noting that it looks like the primary and the first of the secondary Essence channels are hanging on by a thread.

But given that's fairly obvious... Yeah, I got nothin'
 
...welp! That happened.
Baughn said:
Look on the bright side, she isn't in limit break!
That's not strictly a bright side, getting a refresh of temporary Willpower is a good thing and if she had Red Rage of Compassion the side-effects wouldn't even be all *that* detrimental.

That said, it'll be easier to work with once she recovers from the Willpower loss.

So... yeah. High-Essence Charms are probably the thing we need least ever, especially since Amu will be able to personally develop new 6+ ones eventually (unless that's what we sacrifice, I suppose). Burning off Virtues or getting Permanent Limit would also be plausible things to deal with. We're probably going to be dealing with the fallout of whatever option for a long time...

[ ] Alectai
 
...our ties to Creation and our stored high-Essence charms seem like the most tolerable sacrifice. Hopefully we and Amu can create new high-Essence charms for her when the time comes.
[X]Alectai
 
Wander said:
As I said, horrific long term consequences for a short term gain. We REALLY need that short term gain right now.

Edit: And actually, I only remember the effect of the Malfeas mantle off hand. What do the others do again? Because at least one might be better than the others if we can pull it off.
Cecelyne's requires that you have at least Cult 3, and stops working if you don't. SWLIHN's stops you from rolling more than one die when you perform an Act of Villainy. Adorjan's makes you gain more limit for going against your Urge. EB's stops you channeling Virtues. Kimbery's stops working if you're more than a mile from the sea.

They're all incompatible with each other and Native, and presumably incompatible with GTTMH. They also build off the First Excellency of (Yozi), which is a Big Thing for Infernals.
 
Also, in case it wasn't clear, my Write-In is essentially 'All in', but trying to mitigate the costs somewhat by directing it to stuff we can "Afford" to lose, so to speak.
 
As written it wouldn't normally even matter if they were compatible with GttMH, since all those Charms allow you to go to one Essence above your natural age limit (with varying side effects). Since the limit on Essence by age is unchanged by taking one of the Charms, taking another just adds to the list of situations where you're allowed to use that Essence (i.e., GttMH and AMoKimbery together mean that you can access it when next to a sea, or if you take a point of limit specifically to activate it, but it's still just one above natural age limit even if you're next to a sea and eat the limit).

Likewise, they're irrelevant if you have your Essence Endowed up past age limits by the Sun.

In canon, at least, which is clearly only a set of guidelines here.
 
We can't limit break since the Neverborn died with Creation, taking the Great Curse with them. Limit's back for only being able to be used for it's original purpose, not letting Exalt's break their minds. The only way Amu's going to get anything like the Great Curse is if we delved deeply into Infernal charms, but even that's really unlikely.
 
As a first version of my vote:
[X] Alectai
[X] Merge with more of our Charas

I'm not that familiar with the setting, but "All in" is the only moral choice. Even if our character is a 10 year old child. :/ We can only save parts of Japan and China, I'm guessing that losing even more people at this stage if we disengage will be very very bad for her.
Would Amu be crucial in the post-event world? I'm guessing that people chugged along without her in the original work.

So yeah, Long Term consequences for Short Term gains. As long as we are a Solar we CAN break any and all limits we impose upon ourselves here. And it is the Hero thing to do. :)
Ok, how can we get more power?
- merging with charas?
- shard losing capacity (Alectai)
- high level charms

Any more options?
 
Kellanved said:
I'm not that familiar with the setting, but "All in" is the only moral choice. Even if our character is a 10 year old child. :/ We can only save parts of Japan and China,
Also Korea and Russia (well, Japan finally get Kuriles - doubt that they are happy though)...
 
Alectai said:
Memory isn't the limiting factor. More processing power might help, a little, but there isn't much that can be eked out there. The main problem right now is that your connection to Amu is creaking under the strain.

So is Amu herself, of course.

If you still want to have the shard sacrifice itself to fix things, I can work with that.
 
Use Amu's shaping talent to integrate more tightly? This is the first time I've read of someone in danger of being un-exalted. :p I'm guessing that if the Shard-Amu connection breaks, Amu's soul will be destroyed.
 
Baughn said:
Memory isn't the limiting factor. More processing power might help, a little, but there isn't much that can be eked out there. The main problem right now is that your connection to Amu is creaking under the strain.

So is Amu herself, of course.
So Alectai's write-in won't help? :(

... there was something that was drawing us in within Amu's soul structure early on, wasn't there? Could that help our connection to her?

I feel terrible doing this, but I don't think we have time to give her the charms to stop the strain on her.
 
Baughn said:
It'll help, in principle, just not necessarily precisely as written. The sentiment is fine, and I can perfectly well rewrite it to do something useful.
So, a different sacrifice than the one we voted for... will it still be things that are either reparable or irrelevant?
 
Winged One said:
So, a different sacrifice than the one we voted for... will it still be things that are either reparable or irrelevant?
Not irrelevant. Repairable, yes, though I'll make no promises as to how quickly.

Consequences are important, you won't get away with nothing. :)
 
Way I see it, Amu is going to be taking the hit either in her personality or in her capabilities. We can rebuild damaged combat ability or essence capacity given time and careful strategies to avoid getting nailed while weakened, but we can't fix the essence of her self if it breaks.
 
Baughn said:
Not irrelevant. Repairable, yes, though I'll make no promises as to how quickly.

Consequences are important, you won't get away with nothing. :)
...well, you're staying true to the themes of Exalted, though as I understand it sacrifice is more of a Sidereal thing than a Solar one. And there is no "nervous" smiley.

Fukkit. You've gotten me to like Amu too much to half-ass saving her/them. Vote unchanged.
 
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