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[Exalted/SMT] Shard of a Broken Sun

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Geometry of the vortex world
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    • Alectai said:
    Well, we've been doing okay so far, and that's nice to know. Though we've still got a long ways to go :D
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    Depends on how you get there, actually.

    R is constant.
    C = sec(L + ρ)

    (Where R is radius, C is circumference and L is longitudinal coordinate, and never mind that this clearly isn't a cylinder. ρ is distance from the axis. Yes, you got that right; with ρ=0, C != 0. Work out Pi, I dare you.)

    So you see, picking the right direction to walk in really matters~
     
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    • Giygas said:
    We can probably go faster if we fly, not walk.
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    Airplanes sure are handy like that.

    EDIT: Updated the equation to account for ρ, so it isn't just at the surface. Somewhere a physicist is crying.

    EDIT 2: And writing. Obvious vote outcome is obvious.
     
    Baughn said:
    This vortex world isn't a sphere.
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    It's also non-Euclidean, by the sound of it, which makes it a major headache to navigate. There's no guarantee we'll end up in the same place if we chose two different paths. We need to be careful.
    Baughn said:
    Updated the equation to account for ρ, so it isn't just at the surface. Somewhere a physicist is crying.
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    It'll take more than that. I mean, have you seen some of the cosmological and UFT models? Imagine a saddle in twelve dimensions and you'll see how weird it can get.
     
    It's a sign of how invested in the story I am that I start losing my shit when things go bad :D
     
    Alectai said:
    It's a sign of how invested in the story I am that I start losing my shit when things go bad :D
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    *sweatdrop*

    The drama got a little out of hand, honestly. I'm still working out how to balance that stuff, and feeling obliged to follow questor instructions isn't helping; I'm not all that good at planning things out, either. I know I say this a lot, but it'll get toned down significantly during rewrite... or, just as likely, spread out a lot.

    Here's something I don't say as much, then: I'd love more C&C to go with the votes. You don't have to, but.. hum. Good C&C may earn a cameo? ...there are a couple of people who already earned one, then.

    Tomorrow the madness ends, possibly allowing for a more normal writing schedule. I've missed this fic.
     
    That wasn't a mistake. A mistake would have been not saving them.

    But the conception was going to happen.
     
    Yeah, we managed to take a 0/4 result to an 8.

    That's not something that normally happens without a lot of discussion!
     
    Happerry said:
    That wasn't a mistake. A mistake would have been not saving them.

    But the conception was going to happen.
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    I dunno, we could have probably stopped it if we'd boosted Amu's Conviction to the point where she'd be able to straight-up murder the guy who did it, but then the world would have a high-Conviction Solar running around.
     
    I'd rather have a Compassion Fueled hero then a Conviction based one anyway.

    Most of the problems from Creation were the results of an overabundance of Conviction and Valor, and a deficiency in Compassion and Temperance.
     
    Winged One said:
    I dunno, we could have probably stopped it if we'd boosted Amu's Conviction to the point where she'd be able to straight-up murder the guy who did it, but then the world would have a high-Conviction Solar running around.
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    1. Would she found that guy to kill? I'm really not sure...
    2. There is another plan (or three) in motion besides Conception anyway and I'm not sure that high-conviction Amu would've worked better than what we have currently against them

    PS. In fact there is character that is as (if not more) powerful (if not as hax) as current Amu that have Conviction 5... And he failed to kill the shithead.
     
    Happerry said:
    That wasn't a mistake. A mistake would have been not saving them.

    But the conception was going to happen.
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    There were probably a few ways to stop the conception, in fact considering the other available routes... it's quite possible the conception happened due to Amu making a bad choice somewhere. I think the GM also commented awhile ago that the original chance of conception happening went low and went up over time as various choices were made. Still figuring out which ones in particular did it might be tricky? Any one feel like trying?
     
    Quickshot0 said:
    There were probably a few ways to stop the conception, in fact considering the other available routes... it's quite possible the conception happened due to Amu making a bad choice somewhere. I think the GM also commented awhile ago that the original chance of conception happening went low and went up over time as various choices were made. Still figuring out which ones in particular did it might be tricky? Any one feel like trying?
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    Amu involvement in the park I think. She spooked situation which probably allowed escape, but if she would've decided to not involve herself there was still chance of conception AND if not she would've been thrown in Polaris-version of Apocalypse without any important contacts, without warning AND it's entirely possible quite many of her "support structure" of friends and family would've died that way and mentally unhinged solar is not exactly, weeellllll, good for getting best results from the remaking world. And remaking world is endgame in both main versions of Apocalypse.
     
    If you had tried hard enough to stop the Conception, it would have gotten stopped. Probably.

    Unless you really messed up.

    This is something that's true in general, for this story. You're a solar; you'll succeed at what you're trying to do, by and large. You may, in the doing, fail at things you weren't trying to do. For the Conception, if things had gotten to where success was improbable, the downsides might include e.g. having used UMI on JPs members and them being aware of and disliking the fact. Or any of a number of other possibilities.
     
    Huh. I've been getting the impression that they'd have forgiven Amu for UMIing them if it was part of saving the world.
     
    Speaking of Apocalypses I have to wonder if seal on Nyx would hold in all this shit...
     
    Winged One said:
    Huh. I've been getting the impression that they'd have forgiven Amu for UMIing them if it was part of saving the world.
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    On a professional basis, organisationally? Yes, probably.


    al103 said:
    Speaking of Apocalypses I have to wonder if seal on Nyx would hold in all this shit...
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    It doesn't really matter. Right now people are shocked, and trying hard not to die; that will keep being the case for     some time.
     
    al103 said:
    Speaking of Apocalypses I have to wonder if seal on Nyx would hold in all this shit...
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    I am more worried about Nyarlatothep freeing itself and starting to spread rumors: in a sane reality he needed only a city to end the world, and i dread to think at what he could do in our weakened one.
     
    Izanami best girl.

    She wasn't evil, and even congratulates you for winning.
     
    Gamerex27 said:
    Point taken. And considering how hard it would have been to stop the Conception by killing Hikawa, and the long-term damage it would have on Amu's psyche, it's probably better that it worked out this way.
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    It would probably have done less damage, honestly. It's a good thing she has Limit.
    Since we've seen that Persona exists in this same continuity, I'd say that that is a very valid concern. Thing is, he can't use that tactic again, as no one named Maya is around. :p Unless he somehow put another plan up his sleeves while he was locked away, but I'm unsure how much he can influnce the world while he is...
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    Now, just because Amu seems similar to a Persona user... Yes, they exist, and JPs knows about them. Fair.
    ...out and about, judging from what is most likely him in P4 Arena. Crap.
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    Nyahaha. ^^;
    When does this story take place again, year-wise? If it's past 2012, then Nyarly might have freed himself. We can't do anything about him unless we learn about him, or until we stumble across an aspect of one of his plots, but I shudder to think of what he could do when people will shortly begin to panic here.
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    I'd rather not specify a year. The various timelines are actually quite irreconcilable, year-wise; I can tell you that it's past Persona 4, though.
    Thankfully, we don't have to worry about some of the other threats in the SMT verse. The White will not be here, I think that Mem Aleph can't kick off the Land of Ruin now that most of the Earth is gone, the plot of DeSu 1 is already over, so we (hopefully) won't be seeing any of the Bels, and Izanami is super dead (presumably because it was never outright said that her portfolio was dependant on any inherent aspect of humanity, so there was no As Long As There Is Evil connection to bring her back).
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    DeSu1 happened. DeSu1 did not happen in this world.
     
    Winged One said:
    Given how many people you say that about, I suspect you don't actually know what "best" means.
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    Izanami best P4 girl. But is not Waifu.
    Adachi best P4 boy. But is not Husbando.

    There I spell it out for you. I think it is you who does not understand the term 'best'. It is for best 'insert criteria here' character in a series, where as what you seem to be thinking of is waifu/husbando. Therefore one can have multiple 'best girl/boy' so long as not have more then one per series. Just like can have 'best persona' since persona actually aren't really characters.

    You understand what 'best' mean?
     
    Lilithium said:
    Izanami best P4 girl. But is not Waifu.
    Adachi best P4 boy. But is not Husbando.

    There I spell it out for you. I think it is you who does not understand the term 'best'. It is for best 'insert criteria here' character in a series, where as what you seem to be thinking of is waifu/husbando. Therefore one can have multiple 'best girl/boy' so long as not have more then one per series. Just like can have 'best persona' since persona actually aren't really characters.

    You understand what 'best' mean?
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    I do now! It's much less broad than I thought.
     
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