[Exalted/SMT] Shard of a Broken Sun

It's more accurate that the Chara interacting with Amu and the Exaltation will cause them to assume a quasi-Primordial structure.
 
See my next post friend :) The 'mine is better' is mainly because I cannot into Exalted.

We're beyond the Wyld, as the first couple of story posts posit. SMT physics are different but the exaltation was able to adapt and shit.

Magatsuhi is pure life energy. Everything that lives has it. Demons are able to nom it but can't produce it whereas humans cannot nom it but can produce it like woah. Magnetite is the mineral form of life energy. This is often used to summon and/or deal with demons.
 
Ardion Prosili said:
We're beyond the Wyld, as the first couple of story posts posit. SMT physics are different but the exaltation was able to adapt and shit.
More precisely, it goes something like this:

Actual physics (quantum graph theory) -> Shinmaic laws -> Essence -> Primordials, etc. -> Loom of Fate, Creation -> "Humanity".

Actual physics (quantum graph theory) -> planck-scale "lifeforms" -> Magatsuhi -> Kagutsuchi -> Earth -> Humanity?

Or at least, this is the way your shard understands it at the moment. The local "physics" is a deeply layered, but somewhat leaky abstraction; in particular, human minds do not run on the physics Kagutsuchi implements, but rather on the more fundamental substance more commonly known as "Magatsuhi". This sometimes allows them to bend the rules they're supposed to be following.

Autochthon, having been commissioned to create indestructible exaltation shards, was fully aware that he could only make them truly indestructible so long as they remained in realms that follow the shinmaic laws, and that those laws themselves might eventually fail. Therefore, he created them capable of propagating those laws on their own, and intelligent enough to interface with any other systems they might run across.

Which is to say, in exalting Amu it's pulling off a truly bullshit level of physics-engineering. Fortunately there are enough parallels between the two systems that no-one is going to notice what it's doing without looking very closely; for instance, Essence and Magatsuhi are interchangeable for many purposes.
Magatsuhi is pure life energy. Everything that lives has it. Demons are able to nom it but can't produce it whereas humans cannot nom it but can produce it like woah. Magnetite is the mineral form of life energy. This is often used to summon and/or deal with demons.
This description of humanity is something any Exalted player will find familiar. :p
 
SOMEWHAT yes it is bother but not sobbing bother. SMT is just sooooooo good IMO and it always makes me sad when stories get bogged down and die horrible deaths and need bootstrapping with this.....THISNESS!

no pls exalt physics fuck off

fuck off fuck off fuckofffuckooooooofffffffff
 
Baughn said:
That would be more reliable if I hadn't already worked out the exact circumstances during which that does or does not happen. :p
Awwww, does that mean we can't prove that if God exists, so does Nirguna, and therefore make God unexist?
 
single letter G god doesn't exist. YHVH is close but he's an asshole and you're not going to make him unexist by logic. :\ As much as the Sea would love it for him not to exist.
 
Ardion Prosili said:
single letter G god doesn't exist. YHVH is close but he's an asshole and you're not going to make him unexist by logic. :\ As much as the Sea would love it for him not to exist.
Actually considering Exalts were made to eventually, after they got old and good enough, defeat, not kill because they can't be killed... ever, guys that brought the concept of Time into existence... she might have a good chance of actually doing something about him. Granted she'd probably have to get to Essence level 10, which requires being 1000 years old I believe, but she might be able to do something about him eventually. Even if its just lock him away... actually that's what Exalts do with a lot of their problems that they can't kill, which is quite a few.
 
bloodshifter said:
The Ebon Dragon grudgely agrees on Solar Containment Methods.
... I rally do know enough about Exalted that I should be getting this joke, but its just out of reach... and holding my hand in front of my head because as soon as its explained I'm going to facepalm for missing it. :\
 
Ardion Prosili said:
single letter G god doesn't exist. YHVH is close but he's an asshole
o_O
...so God doesn't exist, but an identical in all the ways being going by the same name does.

...I don't even.
and you're not going to make him unexist by logic. :\
Denying that Amu is a Solar doesn't make it so. ;P

And it's more that Nirguna would be pissed off by being demonstrated to exist and pull big Y back into nonexistence. Except that wouldn't happen because Nirguna doesn't exist, but it would...
 
lost egos said:
Didn't Samuel get an eyeful already?
Heh.
Quantumboost said:
And it's more that Nirguna would be pissed off by being demonstrated to exist and pull big Y back into nonexistence. Except that wouldn't happen because Nirguna doesn't exist, but it would...
Nirguna doesn't exist. I know that's standard, but around here he doesn't even not exist. Except, perhaps, inside the shard.
 
Quantumboost said:
o_O
...so God doesn't exist, but an identical in all the ways being going by the same name does.

...I don't even
What part is too difficult to understand?

THERE IS NO ALL KNOWING, ALL POWERFUL SINGULAR CREATOR GOD IN THE SMT UNIVERSE. If there was, he's been dead/gone/irrelevant for SO long no one knows who or what that being's name was.

The Great Will, aka YHVH, didn't make the Amalan Sea (the name of the SMT greater verse structure) nor supports/maintains/enforces it. The Amalan Sea just is or is self-sufficient that if YHVH or Lucifer or some other big name motherfucker should die, all of the SMT reality won't collapse.

Despite the claiming to be the big G god, he is most certainly not nor ever was really. He just claims that he is REALLY REALLY HARD. He isn't though. He just makes people believe that he is because THE MORE BELIEF HE GETS THE MORE POWER HIS WAR MACHINE GLEANS.
 
I never made claims of omnipotence or omniscience for said entity. Even the actual Genesis story has the heavens and earth carved out of a preexisting Sea of Chaos, as it happens.

But fine, if you want to nitpick modern misinterpretations of Judaic myth, he 'isn't' the same being. Whatever.
 
Okay, enough of that. In this story, at least, whatever may or may not have happened billions of years ago is utterly irrelevant; right at the moment, the great will is nothing but a big bloated parasite.

Which is not to say that taking it out would be without downsides, they just don't involve the end of everything. Taking it out is also quite unlikely.
 
Saturday's Eclipse 8
Saturday's Eclipse, 15:35

It's not a bad idea. He's right; while it's unlikely that there are more demons of that level still lurking around, unlikely does not mean impossible, nor does it rule out the presence of lesser servants.

Amu perks up a little, subvocalising your explanation. You wait until she has worked her way through it before continuing, conscious of her reduced state of alertness. It's actually rather concerning; although you haven't fully mapped out how character transformations work yet, you can tell that the areas of her mind primarily concerned with maintaining them have largely shut down from the strain, requiring general-purpose and redundant systems to take over. As she is refusing to release the transformation, this has largely manifested as significant reductions in the efficiency of all other functions. There is a possibility of catastrophic backlash, which you set out to find ways of preventing.

Furthermore, you are quite close to exhaustion at present. Accepting an escort is a sign of goodwill, and it is unlikely that they will try something aggressive in this case, between your intervention saving several of their lives and your cooperation afterwards.

She nods along, accepting your suggestion with an equanimity born of exhaustion. Amu forwards your decision to the mortal soldier, who fetches two of his subordinates before leaving with Amu. That's interesting, and potentially a good sign; they appear to operate in squads of four, meaning they're forming a squad with Amu as opposed to bringing a squad and Amu.

On the other hand, you might be overthinking this. You're operating too far outside your design parameters; decisions like this are what your host is for, there's no reason for you to think about anything other than keeping her in optimal condition.

———

Furthermore, you are quite close to exhaustion at present. Accepting an escort is a sign of goodwill, and it is unlikely that they will try something aggressive in this case, between your intervention saving several of their lives and your cooperation afterwards.

Amu nodded. That made sense, now that she thought about it. She didn't really want them to come with her, because then it'd be obvious to Mom that something had happened, but staying on their good side was probably a good idea.

"You'll accept an escort, then?"

"Eh?" She looked back at Lieutenant Yamada, eyes clouded with confusion. "Oh. Yes, that's fine. Sure. Let's go, then." She pushed off from the tree and looked around, trying to remember where she'd come from. She'd… jumped off to the right, hadn't she? After sending Miki and Su off to find Mom, southwards…

"Hey, hold up." She paused, noting him looking back towards the perimeter group. "Tsukino, Honda! You're with me, come on."

The two joined up, looking somewhat nervous, and she started walking southwards, heading in the direction that seemed right.

———

They were walking through an intact section of the park, which made for a nice change from the smoky, damaged area they'd left. That was probably most of the park, though. It might have left her wondering if that had really happened, but the three adults following her, and the sunrise-coloured aura that was still lighting up her surroundings even after the bonfire stopped, were enough for her to realise she couldn't possibly be misremembering.

With a shock, she realised that Mom would probably notice the way she was glowing.

"So, you think -" One of them said.

"Shh," another whispered. "Don't anger the sleepy goddess. Whether she is or isn't, safest to assume she is."

She was pretty sure he didn't mean for her to hear that, but she filed it under the list of things to consider later. Right now, she didn't really care what they thought.

Ran kept walking, unerringly moving in a single direction.

———

"Amu!"

Someone, up ahead, was shouting and running towards her. She couldn't make out who, but the voice was familiar.

The world fuzzed out for a minute, while she focused on putting one foot in front of the other.

"Oh God, Amu, are you okay?" Someone grabbed her, stopping her from walking, and held her at arm's length for a second. She frowned; she was supposed to be walking. Then she looked at who it was, making herself think about it, and realised it was Mom. Oh, okay. Didn't that mean she'd reached her destination?

"What are you wearing? Never mind. Thank God you're all right." Mom crushed her against herself, hugging her with near-fatal strength, and she struggled for a second before relaxing. She felt a hand passing through her hair, which crackled and produced a shower of some unidentifiable powder.

Ran frowned, thinking. There was something wrong… oh, right.

"Hi, Mom," she said, cocking her head. "You can see me now? How come?"

Mom stiffened, but then she got distracted by Miki flying in front of her face. "Amu?"

"Hi, Miki," she giggled. "You got small! Where's Su?"

"What… Ran?" Miki exclaimed, boggling. "This is bad. Detransform, now!"

"Oh, right. I didn't want to do that before getting to Mom. Here we go…"

She frowned, attempting to concentrate, but quickly gave up. Her head hurt too much to manage something like that, so instead she slumped against Mom and closed her eyes. Maybe after a nap?

"Can't make it work," she explained. "M'be later? Wake me in an hour."

"No! Don't… Mom, don't let her fall asleep, she needs to detransform first!" Ran frowned weakly; Miki was sounding kind of panicked, but she really needed to sleep now. Hopefully Su or Mom could handle whatever it was.

———

"Amu! Ran! Come on, detransform. You can do it. You defeated that demon, didn't you? Surely you're not going to let it beat you like this? Dammit! Then… what will I…"

Miki sounds desperate, a fact you note down for later reference. One past-life gestalt offers the suggestion that it's due to what is happening to Amu, but you pay it no heed; you are too busy staying ahead of the ongoing cascade failure. She would most likely survive if you didn't, but without proper moderation the shock might take several days to sleep off, which would both be highly inconvenient and a failure to maintain proper standards for your Solar.

Miki continues softly. "…Exaltation, wasn't it? You were advising her on your powers earlier. Can't you do something? Force them to separate?"

She is addressing you directly. This is highly anomalous, and you take a moment to consider her request properly. Normally Amu is the only one you would take instructions from, but there are mitigating circumstances in this case. For one, Miki is connected closely enough that her request is evidence of Amu's desires. For another, Amu earlier agreed with the same request, even if she stopped her attempt prior to succeeding. It would also simplify your job if you agree.

A single mote is redirected to spread through her soul, isolating misfiring connections and prying the two of them apart. You follow its progress, carefully guiding it to avoid contamination; unfortunately you are unable to handle everything simultaneously without a pre-made charm, so you don't perfectly succeed.

Amu and Ran fall deeply unconscious the moment their minds stop interfering with each other, but you have confidence that no permanent damage is done.

The immediate crisis over, you consider the other implications of Miki's statements.

———

Miki watched in trepidation as Amu convulsed, her transformation violently reversing itself. She'd done it… she was pretty sure that if Amu had gone to sleep like that, the outcome would have been bad. Now she had to wait to see what the cost would be. Amu and Ran were both out for the count, the latter having reformed already sleeping, and those soldiers looked far too interested in the situation for her liking. She didn't know what Mom thought of this, either.

"Are they okay?" Su asked, floating up to her right. Fat lot of help she'd been.

She grimaced. No, she shouldn't blame Su for hiding when Amu had shown up with an escort; it was the reasonable thing to do, and there had hardly been time for her to take in the situation. They were all tired.

"I think so." She hoped so. "She probably just needs sleep. If there was anything seriously wrong, I'm pretty sure we'd feel it." The problem was… "Mom?"

She floated forward a bit, the better to see her expression. Mom looked… scared, helpless. She was cradling Amu's unconscious body, stroking her hair with trembling hands, and incidentally cleaning it of powdered, bleached dye but not actually changing its colour - still pink. Amu, for her part, was still glowing softly despite being unconscious. So was Ran.

Miki shivered. "Mom, please. I'm sorry I didn't mention Ran… we just wanted to have a bit of fun, surprise you with her. I didn't know they'd be like this."

"We just wanted to have a fun day in the park… Why did this happen?" She spoke softly, her voice shaking. "Oh. Don't worry, Miki, I can tell you were trying to help. Tell me, what happened to Amu? And… Ran, was it? Huh, four daughters now."

Mom glanced up at the three soldiers, spearing them with a resentful look. "Well? You're military, aren't you? Isn't it your job to make sure this doesn't happen?" She angrily asked.

One of them stepped forward, saluting. "Lieutenant Yamada, Ma'am, with Japan Meteorological Agency, JP's. If I may speak bluntly, your daughter saved our asses, Ma'am. If it's okay with you, we'd like to bring you in for a debriefing and find out exactly what did happen."

She stared at them for a moment. "That's not an order?"

Yamada shrugged. "No, Ma'am. We make a point of not angering people who can kill that level of demon, Ma'am. It helps us live longer. The way I understand it, however, it would be in your best interests to come with us. We have doctors who'd have a much better shot at diagnosing your daughter than the local hospital."

Mom looked uncertain. Miki wondered if she should say something, but… really, Mom would know what to do. Unless there was something she didn't know, and she couldn't think of anything important.

If I may interject, I believe I may be able to offer a suggestion.

Miki jumped. That voice, again!

[ ] Amu just needs rest, which she can better get at home.
[ ] On the other hand, you could learn a lot by going with them.
- [ ] Insert debriefing preferences here. You can explain what happened, even if Amu is unconscious. Or, if you prefer, not.
[ ] Something completely different.

Voting stops at Monday 19:00 UTC
 
[X] Amu just needs rest, which she can better get at home.

Because we did a fucking lot man. I'm sure they'd be okay. Of course, if they're really worried, they could have a guy or two sent to the house. Both for protection and to get us debriefed as soon as we deunwind and shit.
 
[X] Amu just needs rest, which she can likely best get at home. However, if there are security concerns and if these people have appropriate facilities, it may be prudent to go with them instead.
-[X] You can still communicate with Miki and Su while she's asleep; they doubtlessly have a number of questions for you. Furthermore, if they're willing, they can relay any answers you provide to those who are outside of your connection, so a simple debriefing is doable, if needed. Detailed explanations, however, would likely best be deferred until Amu wakes up; she'll want to hear all of this herself, after all.
--[X] Ask Su and Miki if they think Amu's friends and allies should be notified when she's close to waking up; they'd know better than you if Amu would like them there during the initial explanations, or if Amu would rather fill them in privately. Or even just to let them know that Amu's fine, should they worry.
 
[x] On the other hand, you could learn a lot by going with them.
- [x] Insert debriefing preferences here. You can explain what happened, even if Amu is unconscious. Or, if you prefer, not.

guys no dont please debrief please someone come up with a stunt i am far too lazy atm

i mean come on, while I don't think amu is in any shape for hunting hikawa down there has to be something she can do to help stop THE END OF THE WORLD
 
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