Van Ropen
Angry, angry about elves.
Is it really, compared to the other two and given the last control spell also seems to be for movement?
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inawarminister
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-[X] Acquire Defining Tie, "The Lathe of Heaven" - Uly will seek to destroy and remake the world, as Odyssial did. Gives more information on the Lathe of Heaven. Uly will more heavily prioritize personal advancement over coalition-building, as the Lathe of Heaven requires a set locus of power: a quintillion mortals could not do it, only a single being of truly transcendent might can. [Behavioral Change: Minimal. Mental Strain: High]
why would we choose hating the 150 solaroids? especially the few ones that are our ally? seriously.
why would we choose hating the 150 solaroids? especially the few ones that are our ally? seriously.
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[x] Acquire Defining Tie, "Hatred of the Titans"
The Titans are still dicks, so I have no problem hating them. I'd rather not pine after somebody who's not here.
[x] Infallible Messenger
As a control spell, this is an awesome tool for spying and covert actions.
[x] Travel Without Distance
Buy the Demon, so we can get bonuses for a control spell. Past viewing is useful, but the control benefit is mostly convenience. Let's gain the ability to jump around Creation with our allies, instead of by ourselves.
[x] The Sundial Throne [Solar Circle, Ambition 3]
All the benefits of extra training time without the downsides of having to feed twice as much.
The Titans are still dicks, so I have no problem hating them. I'd rather not pine after somebody who's not here.
[x] Infallible Messenger
As a control spell, this is an awesome tool for spying and covert actions.
[x] Travel Without Distance
Buy the Demon, so we can get bonuses for a control spell. Past viewing is useful, but the control benefit is mostly convenience. Let's gain the ability to jump around Creation with our allies, instead of by ourselves.
[x] The Sundial Throne [Solar Circle, Ambition 3]
All the benefits of extra training time without the downsides of having to feed twice as much.
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- USA
It isn't that horse anymore. It WAS that horse, then we rebuilt into something else, something in whose anima we could hide and designed to be consumed by titans so we could attack them from within. Now I am not so sure what it can do and whether its the best for fast travel
... also, isn't there a mote cost difference between spells of higher and lower circles?
besides, the more fast travel options the better
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- The savanna.
[X] Acquire Defining Tie, "Hatred of the Titans"
[X] Don't Beg The Lily for help
[X] Infallible Messenger
[X] Travel Without Distance
[X] A Dragon of the West [Solar Circle, Ambition 3
Ulyssian shouldn't be begging anyone for anything, and friends don't draw their friends away from the the people they need to protect simply because they need a glorified cheerleader.
[X] Don't Beg The Lily for help
[X] Infallible Messenger
[X] Travel Without Distance
[X] A Dragon of the West [Solar Circle, Ambition 3
Ulyssian shouldn't be begging anyone for anything, and friends don't draw their friends away from the the people they need to protect simply because they need a glorified cheerleader.
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For one, teleportation is relatively subtle for both infiltration and exfiltration, while the Odyssial Horse practically screams "Anathema!" Well, unless the real one has a stealth mode or some bullshit like that.
Also, it makes for a handy escape button for when you re unexpectedly attacked by a Sidereal. When it is a control spell, you can even bring your friends instead of leaving them to die.
It's still probably a VERY badass horse. I'd be surprised if it was slower than the teleportation for overland travel. Travel without distance costs 2wp per cast and we only get 1wp back for successfully casting, so we can't even spam it for travelling large distances. I don't know if you realised, but Creation is HUGE. Teleporting 50 miles really isn't much.
And there's no mote cost for spells in e3. But I suppose we can always ask.
@Rihaku how good is the Odyssian horse at fast-travel?
You think an Exalt like Anys can't find us after we teleport away and are fatigued from the teleport? And we can't even use it to teleport to places we haven't seen before, so it's not really useful for infiltration.
It's hatred of the Titans, not the Solaroids themselves. The amount of spillover would be somewhere between limited and nonexistent.
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Alectai
Speaks Words of Wisdom... On occasion
[X] A Dragon of the West [Solar Circle, Ambition 3]
I like this Orm, I like it a lot!
Would we have to use the Storm Armor as a component for this? I think Zao would be willing to pay that price to give his daughter a chance to make her own future I think.
I like this Orm, I like it a lot!
Would we have to use the Storm Armor as a component for this? I think Zao would be willing to pay that price to give his daughter a chance to make her own future I think.
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That's what scrying spells are for. Like Infallible Messenger taken as a control spell.
Any target important enough to warrant this will also be important enough to be warded against Infallible Messenger.
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We can alternatively just have no discernable prejudice if we take on internal conflict. It'll be character-building and shit.
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That's actually a really good idea; incorporating the release of the bound winds within the Storm Armor to boost the effects of the ritual wouldn't be too hard, and it would be a nice nod to the bag of winds that Aeolus presented to Odysseus.
Yes. But sorcerous motes aren't paid using your mote pool but gathered from your surrounding. It really doesn't matter if a spell costs 10 or 100 sorcerous motes if you're not casting in combat.
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Examples of gathering them were also given, stuff like "drain the unrequited love intimacy someone has of you, can only be done once per 24 hours per person".
Gathering those from the surroundings is not gonna be instant or infinite.
And like I said, I am not convinced that the odyssial horse is still suitable for fast overland travel. and as people mentioned is a lot less subtle.
Heck, for one thing we have proven a tendancy to lock ourself in our office/lab. Teleport lets us get out, do something, and get back in.
Horse means everyone sees us going out.
Teleport is great for alibis of "I was in my room the whole time".
that is explicitly not what the option says. it explicitly states we will be disfavoring abyssials and infernals.
Wards are not nearly as common as you think. And targets are not nearly as stationary.
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Yes, yes it is infinite. You can always not use a shaping ritual and just roll (Occult+Int) to gather motes equal to your successes, technically forever.
It says uncertain effects and possible diminishment. If we accept internal conflict, we can prevent them from seeing any hate bleed through.
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And how many times can you do that per unit of time?
You can't just make that roll an infinite amount of times in a single second. As such you do not have an infinite amount of sorcerous motes, only as many as you can spend the time gathering
can someone explain this unsuitability to me? Why is her fighting style incompatible with that armor?
Also... we could give the armor back to zao, he could use it himself!
Is a factory carthedral possible
I'm just not really impressed by a travel spell that, at Essence 5 Stamina 5
- Is slower than RL horses
- Is half as fast as a terrestrial travel spell
- Can't be spammed
- Requires you to have seen the target area before
- Gives you a debuff after using it
Rihaku
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That's why he said "it doesn't matter how many sorcerous motes it costs if you're outside of combat," which is basically correct.
Mm, I don't think they're a formal thing in 3E anymore, though it's possible to make something similar if you have the Wyld-Shaping tree.
I mean, if you really want a crafter, you can just make a 3CD-level crafter with an Ambition 3 Solar Circle Working. That should be good enough for most Creation-scale purposes.