[Exalted, ?] Most High
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I'm trying as well. I should disagree with you more, the bickering our arguments generate is quite lively.
We totally have rivals left, too! Even locally speaking, the Lily is a serious threat, and fighting the Gardener is... inadvisable, to put it mildly. That's the thing about Creation, it's very difficult to out-scale the setting.
Guile
Having a really great time right now
466 pages in 5 weeks is what, 13+ pages a day for this quest?
It's a shame that there isn't a way to draw in more participation, sure, and yes that number is somewhat front-loaded, but that's... kind of insane, to my way of thinking.
Emerald Oracle
Chaos, yet harmony. Death, yet the Force
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Well, it's interesting to see one of these events from the inside. I'm sad it seems to be coming to this because writing fanwork for this has been good for me, it's given me something to add to my writing load that's different and has a discernible immediate benefit. Also, I'm kinda sad that this may end before we actually get to SEE Uncle in person. Truly, a loss for the ages. I too will attempt to write more or perhaps be invested more. I've a tendency to lurk and I need to get over that anyway.
Ah well, I'm in the system for both forums now so I'll show up if and when there's another Rihaku quest if the worst happens.
Ah well, I'm in the system for both forums now so I'll show up if and when there's another Rihaku quest if the worst happens.
Fancy Face
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Even if this one ends early, there will one day be another.
Perhaps one will even have Ulyssian be an actual Dragonblooded, eh?
Yeah, I didn't think so either.
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Yeah, I look at stuff like Panopticon Quest, which has been running for a couple days shy of a fucking year, and that has less posts than this. This is very, very active compared to the average quest, even pre-split. I get that people haven't been posting much lately, but I kind of felt that like that was due to personal shit/distractions/the decisions not being quite as controversial as stuff like trusting TED's daughter, rather than any lack of interest. I still feel really interested.
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Maybe try the player recruitment thread?
http://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/player-recruitment-thread.2723/
Rihaku
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My posts already comprise way too large a fraction of this thread's total count, and I've been updating at burnout rates for a while now. I don't think I can give any more than I already have, responding to virtually every post in the thread. Nor can I maintain that level of activity, as least as far as posts, going forward. If the underlying factors aren't in our favor, then they simply aren't.
Well, we are at about 1/3rd posting rate compared to the (not terribly busy) first two weeks. Recently I've updated at burnout pace to counter the decline and build momentum, but we are already trending towards 1/5th participation. When you update at burnout, it's in the hopes of growing the audience so that the thread can survive when real life or your brain decides it can't update at that rate anymore, so if the audience (in posting rates, view growth, peak concurrent viewers, and peak voters) rapidly declines even during such update rate, it's not sustainable.
Hm. When this began, I sent out PMs to ~20 or so people who I thought might be interested. Perhaps it's time for a second such recruitment drive, or to drop by the /tg/ Exalted thread and drop a link or two in there, see if anyone bites. A TVTropes page might also help somewhat.
Rihaku
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I don't try to compare between quests; there are too many confounding factors. Comparing between time periods in the same quest, or other quests written by the same author, is usually more indicative. And we are not referring to the quest as a whole, but specifically the decline that is readily apparent in the metrics between week 2 and week 5. Nor do I want to introduce artificial controversy in every single update just to maintain a stable participation rate; it's not sustainable for the plot.
Well, if the percent retention rate of existing participants is already diminishing, I'm not sure anything but an exceptionally organized effort would make a sustainable difference. Maybe I'll have the energy to organize such a post tomorrow.
Dream Logic
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Ouch, ok I'm coming out of the lurk(is a lurk an actual thing? It might not be, but guess what? It is now!).
Right now we're kind of in an odd place because it's obvious we've hit the soft wall for the moment where we're going to start hunkering down and even if the momentum's still on our side, it's also not that crushing wave we had before.
For better or worse this is a prep turn.
The general plan proposed(Hunt sorc, Expand the city, buff the city god) seems to rely on the idea that we can Win the battle with the sorc who is probably either fleeing or generally unprepared for a fight right now and isn't going to be this vulnerable for quite some time.
EDIT2: I just want to say and this is actually kind of killing me...I can't find any true fault in this. Seriously, it's well thought out and valid and was totally my first thought, and I'll stop making it's case now thank you very much.
Maybe ask Zhao to reassign/send our way a few people who would otherwise be axed? Preferably instructors and older officers or the newish blood. For the military instead of doing some weird Military construction project.
Personally I was thinking we might want to do something like... I don't know, a write in to try and con a semi-stewardship action from the military. Not like impressing everyone as it was phrased in the choice presented but instead having the military oversee some construction projects in whatever capacity they can and will be able to effect(the legion has an engineering corp right?).
Then I'd want to do the anti corruption option too take advantage of a 'new order' approach. We are Odysseus and we are rewriting the book, in fact we've done it, and you should read it because you're being tested on this next week, cheaters will be executed.
I'm not sure what to do with the last. I'd like to do City on a Hill but I fear giving up the momentum we have and letting both factions settle in is not to our best interest. At the same time it would double down on my idea of pretty much making this place bullshit and it might make the Lunar a bit more willing to talk to us, after all we would be doing a sort of social experiment of our own.
In effect(names are nicknames since I forget the actual ones, I'll go back to the actual posts when/if this is worth voting for)
Military: [] Zao recruitment drive, or, Engineering corps go:
Stewardship: [] Kill Corruption
Lore: [] City on the hill
By the way, Exalted is super mechanically dense. I love the setting but the crunch kills me. I am probably way off and this is all probably stupid but thoughts?
EDIT: Alot of the issue for me is that I find that there's so much at play that it feels like everything is kind of shifting about in my head. Like, there's more ideas/factors my brain is working with then the actual 'thought space' so the mental picture stretches and shifts and shrinks and I sit out to avoid the headache(it also feels *really* weird when your mind starts thinking/conceptualizing of itself as a physical thing, especially one that acts like a mini-tesseract).
Right now we're kind of in an odd place because it's obvious we've hit the soft wall for the moment where we're going to start hunkering down and even if the momentum's still on our side, it's also not that crushing wave we had before.
For better or worse this is a prep turn.
The general plan proposed(Hunt sorc, Expand the city, buff the city god) seems to rely on the idea that we can Win the battle with the sorc who is probably either fleeing or generally unprepared for a fight right now and isn't going to be this vulnerable for quite some time.
EDIT2: I just want to say and this is actually kind of killing me...I can't find any true fault in this. Seriously, it's well thought out and valid and was totally my first thought, and I'll stop making it's case now thank you very much.
Maybe ask Zhao to reassign/send our way a few people who would otherwise be axed? Preferably instructors and older officers or the newish blood. For the military instead of doing some weird Military construction project.
Personally I was thinking we might want to do something like... I don't know, a write in to try and con a semi-stewardship action from the military. Not like impressing everyone as it was phrased in the choice presented but instead having the military oversee some construction projects in whatever capacity they can and will be able to effect(the legion has an engineering corp right?).
Then I'd want to do the anti corruption option too take advantage of a 'new order' approach. We are Odysseus and we are rewriting the book, in fact we've done it, and you should read it because you're being tested on this next week, cheaters will be executed.
I'm not sure what to do with the last. I'd like to do City on a Hill but I fear giving up the momentum we have and letting both factions settle in is not to our best interest. At the same time it would double down on my idea of pretty much making this place bullshit and it might make the Lunar a bit more willing to talk to us, after all we would be doing a sort of social experiment of our own.
In effect(names are nicknames since I forget the actual ones, I'll go back to the actual posts when/if this is worth voting for)
Military: [] Zao recruitment drive, or, Engineering corps go:
Stewardship: [] Kill Corruption
Lore: [] City on the hill
By the way, Exalted is super mechanically dense. I love the setting but the crunch kills me. I am probably way off and this is all probably stupid but thoughts?
EDIT: Alot of the issue for me is that I find that there's so much at play that it feels like everything is kind of shifting about in my head. Like, there's more ideas/factors my brain is working with then the actual 'thought space' so the mental picture stretches and shifts and shrinks and I sit out to avoid the headache(it also feels *really* weird when your mind starts thinking/conceptualizing of itself as a physical thing, especially one that acts like a mini-tesseract).
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Well,weird I don't participate much because I feel like the thread went too fast.
This maybe has lesser paricipate than Bleach quest that have 100 page per day,but I think this quest is pretty popular.
Even me that don't play exalted think it is interesting.
I've kind of been busy lately with real life stuff so I haven't been able to post much. By the time I've gotten caught up in the thread all the points I would have brought up have already been discussed, but I have still been following the quest with much enjoyment.
If you are feeling the strain maybe you could just put more time between updates. That would give more time for discussion and put less stress on you.
If you are feeling the strain maybe you could just put more time between updates. That would give more time for discussion and put less stress on you.
Rihaku
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I think probably 95% of quests don't get to 30,000 words, much less 60,000. I would say you've gotten fairly far along, though. Ulyssian is quite strong. You killed Cathak Polemgaos, and played through essentially the entire Academy arc.
Well, my point was that if the audience is declining even when updating at burnout rates, it definitely won't hold when I slow down. A quest that only updates once a week, and consequently sees less than fifty posts a day except on rare controversial occasions, just isn't how my brain works.
I was going to try and make a pitch, but you're more eloquent and it'd probably be better received coming from the GM, so I'll hold off.
Just as a general message to everyone, if you like this, just... tell people about it. Encourage participation. It doesn't have to be a lot, but if every reader took a moment to spread the word, we wouldn't be in this situation. Social media relies heavily on the snowball effect, this is no different.
Rihaku
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Well, if I put more time between updates, that would further decrease momentum, and it's already sharply decreasing. It would simply kill the quest outright.
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I agree with this. So what if people think we're tied closely to him?
They should have an attached core of engineers. Of course we're talking about a hypothetical legion that hasn't gone to, um, complete shit what with all the recent events, so there are no guarantees. Your idea about calling on Zao for help might be a good one, get some dedicated workers in here, build some shit. He's an Admiral, gotta have connections with Exalted artisans at shipyards and stuff.
What a way to incentivize studiousness! We aced the exams of the Naval Academy in months! How can others fail such an easy curriculum, especially with proper motivation?!
Yeah, I don't really want to cede initiative, but I kind of feel like we ran headlong into a wall made of mist with the Necromancer. Do we know what Ragmar's doing, though? I thought he was just being a traditional 1E Lunar, complete with fucking over the Realm and beastman hordes and all that good shit.
You are not the only one. Not by a long shot.
Rihaku
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Well, it certainly won't lead to their actually helping you, as far as you can tell!
Time-skipping could be good as well. With Massed Prophecies backing you up, you would essentially do "better" on Administration and Development Projects than all but the strongest rolls would allow, since the circumstances would be shifted in your favor (or, rather, you'd predict and exploit the circumstances optimally, but either way).
It gives you a sizeable plot of arable, trout-rich land to feed the city and grow cash crops on! And a city to process those textiles, silk, spices, and drugs into clothing, medication, and food for export. Remember, Luseng was almost criminally underexploited before the Realm conquered it - with proper cultivation, a tenth of it can rival the revenues of the whole Satrapy, prior to the war!
But it's true.
Well, it seems most people are against taking the Shikari, but do you really want to leave them in the city unsupervised while you run off in the wilderness for potentially weeks?
But not as good as you would be with that bodyguard Charm!
That is a problem; we really don't know what the endgame of any of our enemies is, apart from acquiring land and resources that are supposed to be ours. They want the Emerald Mountain, but... why? To do what with it? Is this really as simple as gaining materials, even if they are magical? The Gardener's behavior suggests a deeper agenda. That's part of why I want to go on the offensive, to see what there is to be seen.
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Can we drag that shikari to most dangerous fight in this area?Their duty is suppose to keep an eye on us if we go to fight but they wait in city,that mean they fail their duty then?
Rihaku
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Well, when I wrote Asking Zao for help, I really meant asking him to make an epic, mist-clearing storm and send it in Luseng's general direction, nothing so prosaic as asking for reinforcements. Then the military action would be spent tarping down the city, making general storm preparations, etc.
Haha called it, should have killed those monks before they got the chance to sway the people.