Guile
Having a really great time right now
Well yes, but at least an assassin and a sorceress aren't at their best in a straight up fight, either.
[Exalted, ?] Most High
- Thread starter Rihaku
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- exalted (white wolf)
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- The savanna.
Yeah, but it's a 2v1. Against opponents who've witnessed our fighting style and have experience working together. Fei Ling thought she could take us with the advantage of surprise, so clearly we're not so strong as to outmatch them; Ayala is a champion in her own right, capable of fighting the likes of Polemgaos. Consider that for a second. Also, if we kill them without a disguise, good fucking luck explaining that to the Investigative Committee.
Rihaku
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Negotiate does also have a pretty big write in powering it, though you shouldn't expect Ayala to be as amenable as portrayed there. Still, it's a big stunt bonus to you and Nilul, so Negotiate is squarely in the lead right now. With these next few updates hitting, though, you really are going to need all the XP you can get, so consider the benefits of that 150k...
Guile
Having a really great time right now
Why wouldn't we meet them with a disguise on? All four of us have superlative disguise abilities.
- Location
- Fabulously Rainbow Ireland
Not Flame himself, his KIDS that he would have with Ayala due to her experiments on creating SUPER Dragon Blood 3CD's since they'd gain the ability to burn their lifespan like Flame to cut down training times and due to the fact that they'd be immortal they could spam it over and over and over.
It's basically the same plan as Anys except WE reap the benefits and come on the LOOK on Flame's face when he realizes his girlfriend is an Anathema would be a thing of beauty also we DO need his bloodline for super Dragon Blood troops to save creation and his sister is too sickly (plus she might be the reincarnation of our loyal DB lieutenant so it would be kind of a dick move to do that to her).
Mostly it was the amusement factor of him being whipped by little miss SCIENCE! plus the fact that if we get Ayala loyal to us and then get Flame besotted with her then we neutralize him as a threat AND if they really do wind up hitting it off it might possibly break his stupid fanaticism if he has to confront the fact that someone he cares about is and EEEEEEEEEEEEEVIL Anathema.
- Location
- The savanna.
Because we want to treat with them as Sesus Ulyssian, Fire Aspect, who shouldn't have an supernal disguise abilities.
Rihaku already said this wasn't plausible.
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- Location
- Fabulously Rainbow Ireland
DAMMIT!
Rihaku
The Internet
You're meeting them to talk about the fact that they know Nilul's identity, so I guess you could enter disguised but that would be pretty confusing.
- Location
- The end of all things
Rereading through the relevant section of the previous quest, I noticed that it was mentioned that Moon could probably defeat Ayala in personal combat. Did she get substantially buffed here?
We could look like Nilul while she looks like us (Plus an added benefit of answering the question of how to find a way to look competent in your weakest field.), then when negotiations break down... Wham! Right in the kisser.
Nilul might not be combat-oriented, but she's still Exalted, not complete dead weight.
We can watch Ayala's match to learn her fighting style too.
She thought Ulyssian is exhausted after his fight. And we just got stronger.
First, there is a difference between fighting and winning. Second, that is why the idea was to approach after her match, when she is tired.
- Location
- The savanna.
You're assuming she'll even be comfortable exposing herself directly to these people. You saw how hard it was for her to tip her hand indirectly, and now you expect her to actually fight? It's the area in which she's least skilled against the opponents she is least willing to confront.
Is there time for that? We have to act swiftly, or Ayala will send a message to the Dragon.
We bought one Charm. It's not that huge a difference, even with OtC, and neither of these girls are Malfean soakmonsters.
You seem to forget the fact that we've been very, very lucky so far. Against both the Brotherhood and Polemgaos. These are not trivial opponents, not people we can afford to underestimate. A swift strike from surprise is perhaps our only chance at pulling off killing them.
meianmaru
The Devourer of Fiction
Hmm. It wouldn't work as well, and might not just be worth it, but could one use SCS Ambition 1 Working to restore the burnt lifespan for one person at a time? There is still that canonical "restore to the prime of their youth example" example. And if one could manufacture DBs like Anys was planning by combining "burning ones own lifespan away to get more powerful faster" with "extremely extended lifespan", resetting it from time to time could actually be cost effective.
Hmm. I wonder if Moon would be interested scientific experiment where she would be given in addition of that "potential of 3C Daeva of Gaia" a trait that would allow her to reach for that potential faster, at the mere cost of having to go through a Sorcerous ritual every now and then...
Guile
Having a really great time right now
She already did the stupid move, they recognized her during the trial.
Incidentally, did we pick that Title that lets us perfectly protect someone within our sphere of influence? Guardian, or whatever? We might have picked exercise...
Presumably, since she said she'd send a messenger after the fight.
She just volunteered to show her face before them during the questioning. That's why we're in this situation in the first place. Compared to that, maximizing her chances of survival by, y'know, defending herself if they attack, is natural. Or do you think she is going to cower in a corner if it dissolves into violence? That's ridiculous.
Fear mongering. On the contrary, if we go for negotiation, we should not act without thought. Why are you treating it as fact that she will send the message right now?
Yes, but a difference nonetheless. There was much talk about confronting them before the last power up too.
Of course they are not easy prey, but treating everything done before as a fluke is kinda extreme? "Perhaps only chance of killing them" - or perhaps not. That is not a valid argument. And that's the point - to not let it come to killing. But if does, we still have a fair chance.
- Location
- Fabulously Rainbow Ireland
No we picked Better Listener
Don't remember that myself, but if it's true I'd imagine it has a lot to do with how Sorcery works in 3e as opposed to 2e and that arena matches, while ostensibly benefiting the straight up fighter more, technically allow the Sorcerer to prepare as much as they want and Sorcerers with preperation can be tricky.
In actual one on one combat, Ayala presumably wouldn't benefit from this nearly as much unless she was ambushing someone.
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The infernals have their own motives to keep it civil. First, they are on mission - a team death match might attract unnecessary attention from the hosts of the tournament, which they are unlikely to want to happen. And, well, it would still be a fight they are not certain to win. They might know that continuing the conversation is suboptimal, but when the other option is a fight to the death in an enemy base, they are not certain to make the best (for them) choice. And all the while Nilul is talking...
meianmaru
The Devourer of Fiction
Actually, this is pretty compelling at least to me from also the storytelling aspect. After his miscalculation, I would expect Uly to throw himself to doing things at even greater fervor, accomplishing his objectives with the cold machine-like efficiency and elegance without resting more than the very bare minium, breaking past his previous boundaries with sheer will, but also greatly taxing himself in the process.
Rihaku
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You have crappy Guile, though, so they'll wonder why Nilul is useless in a conversation while her meatshield is doing all the talking.
You don't have the Charms you've purchased yet, you get those this month during training. Also, being exhausted is a huge issue in 3E; more regen is slow, and you were completely tapped out after the fight with Polemgaos. If she'd attacked you then, you would have died 100%.
Yes, what happens if we Limit Break next to Moon or something?
It's honestly very hard to judge these things accurately or even argue against Stress, if we don't have even a single idea what the hell Uly will do when he Limit Breaks.
Reiterating time and time again that it'd be really bad for everyone around him may have made people somewhat wary when the Stress system was first introduced, but by now it seems that people just stopped being scared of something they know nothing about, except that it'll be really bad in some way, especially with all the other catastrophes demanding our attention.
I get that straight up telling people more isn't really a viable solution, but the issue that there are few other arguments than general caution remains and will stay that way until someone makes a frighteningly accurate and in general just frightening guess at the nature of the Limit Break.
And with everything else going on, I doubt people are going to expend their creative energies on that as opposed to trying to figure out this Infernal clusterfuck, have already expended their energy on the immediate aftermath of the Polemgaos mess or are more concerned about making sure their favoured activities for the next month are prioritized and supported with good plans.
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Guile
Having a really great time right now
Asking quest voters not to pick all the shinies is like asking the sun not to rise, Rihaku.
meianmaru
The Devourer of Fiction
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Resolute Flame Quest, Part 1
Rihaku: So, you guys chose the Fire-Aspect Stray Egg option. Keep in mind, this means that while you already have pretty good stats for your age when compared to the average Dragon-Blooded, with also extreme late-game potential, you are currently nowhere near good as some of the top, or even some the mid-level students in the academy. So I would suggest picking your fights carefully, as the world doesn't change according how strong you are.
Players: Yeah, we'll be careful. We'll just focus on training montage in the start, and pass most of the challenges thrown to us.
Rihaku: Hmm. We'll see about that...
*Update: The First Night*
Players: What do you mean, that some mortal guy gets chosen over us as the Headmaster's personal student!? And takes the spot that would have let our sister enter?! Mortals are supposed to just go "splat" in Exalted!
Rihaku: I think I said somewhere that the option your pick would be less-than-optimal at the start.
Players: Sure, we get that, but not beneath a fricking mortal-
*Player-hivemind has shattered! Players are now capable of having individual insights and opinions!*
TheInsightfulAnalyzer: Hmm. Are we sure that he is a mortal? He could be Sidereal, or maybe even Solar or Lunar. Zao seems like a guy who has definetly an in with the Bronze Faction, so he could have plans, especially considering his opening speech.
AverageVoter: Shit, you might be right. Um, what do we in that case? I don't think we have much chance of winning against him if he is an Celestial Exalt.
Rihaku: We'll you could just pass up the chance to confront him and maybe make him take responsibility about what he caused to happen to your sister...
RedOptionForever: NO WAY IN HELL!
AverageVoter: Yeah, we are not going to let something like a possible Anathema stop us now!
TheInsightfulAnalyzer: Guys? Weren't we just not going to take any unnecessary risks before actual training?
Rihaku: Confronting him also gives you XP.
TheInsightfulAnalyzer: ...You play dirty. *Sight*. Fine. Whatever. Lets go Leeroy Jenkins even after we were planning to explicitly avoid that from the start. Yeah, that sound great. At least the risk is low in our current situation, and the loss of prestige non-existant if we happen to intimidate some poor mortal is insignificant.
Rihaku: *Whistling innocently*
*Update: Fire and Sword*
Players: ...What the fuck? Rihaku, how well did this guy roll?
Rihaku: Can't tell. Would spoil things. Anyway, you have again a choice before you, along with the sword pointed at your throat. You don't think he is likely to kill you, and he at least looks a bit surprised about actually winning.
RedOptionForever: NO SURRENDER! REMEMBER THE TROUBLE THAT BASTARD CAUSED TO EMBER! NEVER FORGET, NEVER FORGIVE!
AverageVoter: ...Maybe this was a bit too soon. Not a glorious start for our quest, but we don't want to end it here, right?
TheInsightfulAnalyzer: Like Rihaku said, it is not likely that he would kill us. But he could very well maim us even more if we try to fight him, making our recovery and thus training longer. So not going to pick a fight with someone who is probably a hidden Solar Exalt, who has Zao's protection.
TheEndlessWritingMachine: I could start writing an omake for the training. It seems like we need all the XP we can get.
RejoicingForArt: HERE, HAVE A PICTURE WHERE FLAME SWEARS HIS REVENGE AGAINST ULYSSIAN WHILE THE BACKGROUND EXPLODES IN FLAMES.
AverageVoter: Awesome, but I still feel that even all that might not be enough...
Rihaku: Well, you could always exchange your lifespan for more power now, burning the candle from both ends to reach-
ShinyLooter: Shiny! Where?! Give us the shiny!
*End Part 1*
***
Resolute Flame Quest, Part 1
Rihaku: So, you guys chose the Fire-Aspect Stray Egg option. Keep in mind, this means that while you already have pretty good stats for your age when compared to the average Dragon-Blooded, with also extreme late-game potential, you are currently nowhere near good as some of the top, or even some the mid-level students in the academy. So I would suggest picking your fights carefully, as the world doesn't change according how strong you are.
Players: Yeah, we'll be careful. We'll just focus on training montage in the start, and pass most of the challenges thrown to us.
Rihaku: Hmm. We'll see about that...
*Update: The First Night*
Players: What do you mean, that some mortal guy gets chosen over us as the Headmaster's personal student!? And takes the spot that would have let our sister enter?! Mortals are supposed to just go "splat" in Exalted!
Rihaku: I think I said somewhere that the option your pick would be less-than-optimal at the start.
Players: Sure, we get that, but not beneath a fricking mortal-
*Player-hivemind has shattered! Players are now capable of having individual insights and opinions!*
TheInsightfulAnalyzer: Hmm. Are we sure that he is a mortal? He could be Sidereal, or maybe even Solar or Lunar. Zao seems like a guy who has definetly an in with the Bronze Faction, so he could have plans, especially considering his opening speech.
AverageVoter: Shit, you might be right. Um, what do we in that case? I don't think we have much chance of winning against him if he is an Celestial Exalt.
Rihaku: We'll you could just pass up the chance to confront him and maybe make him take responsibility about what he caused to happen to your sister...
RedOptionForever: NO WAY IN HELL!
AverageVoter: Yeah, we are not going to let something like a possible Anathema stop us now!
TheInsightfulAnalyzer: Guys? Weren't we just not going to take any unnecessary risks before actual training?
Rihaku: Confronting him also gives you XP.
TheInsightfulAnalyzer: ...You play dirty. *Sight*. Fine. Whatever. Lets go Leeroy Jenkins even after we were planning to explicitly avoid that from the start. Yeah, that sound great. At least the risk is low in our current situation, and the loss of prestige non-existant if we happen to intimidate some poor mortal is insignificant.
Rihaku: *Whistling innocently*
*Update: Fire and Sword*
Players: ...What the fuck? Rihaku, how well did this guy roll?
Rihaku: Can't tell. Would spoil things. Anyway, you have again a choice before you, along with the sword pointed at your throat. You don't think he is likely to kill you, and he at least looks a bit surprised about actually winning.
RedOptionForever: NO SURRENDER! REMEMBER THE TROUBLE THAT BASTARD CAUSED TO EMBER! NEVER FORGET, NEVER FORGIVE!
AverageVoter: ...Maybe this was a bit too soon. Not a glorious start for our quest, but we don't want to end it here, right?
TheInsightfulAnalyzer: Like Rihaku said, it is not likely that he would kill us. But he could very well maim us even more if we try to fight him, making our recovery and thus training longer. So not going to pick a fight with someone who is probably a hidden Solar Exalt, who has Zao's protection.
TheEndlessWritingMachine: I could start writing an omake for the training. It seems like we need all the XP we can get.
RejoicingForArt: HERE, HAVE A PICTURE WHERE FLAME SWEARS HIS REVENGE AGAINST ULYSSIAN WHILE THE BACKGROUND EXPLODES IN FLAMES.
AverageVoter: Awesome, but I still feel that even all that might not be enough...
Rihaku: Well, you could always exchange your lifespan for more power now, burning the candle from both ends to reach-
ShinyLooter: Shiny! Where?! Give us the shiny!
*End Part 1*
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Eh, what could possibly go wrong.
Since Strategos won, not using it feels like a complete waste. Especially with this seemingly being the last halcyon period in a while, so an intensive use of Prophecy synergizes well with it. And Ulyssian is leaving soon, a goof idea to strengthen his main (only )allies' powerbase.
Medical balm is non-negotiable. For far too long Ivory votes have suffered under the merciless wheels of the Moon train. Now that she is half dead, even Ulyssian isn't heartless enough to ignore her.