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Would they need to with the Wood Aspect around keeping them in the fight though? My understanding is that Wood is irritating as hell like that.
 
Rihaku said:
Man, if you win people will be too scared to fight you without truly overwhelming force. They'll have to assume you're like an E5 multiple Immaculate Master or something.
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Alectai said:
Which Means that we can focus on building more power and influence because they won't start shit with us, and all the while, we're becoming increasingly swole!
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Observing Sidereals: "Hmm, why does seems so familiar? It's on the tip of my- OH FUCK, ODYSSIAL."
 
Reckless_Sun said:
Well, there is such a thing as a death spiral. Assuming we do damage to everyone with that one swing we should have pushing them all to -1 or -2. DBs, I don't think get a charm that lets them ignore wound penalties.
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This is 3E (I think?) where there's initiative and wound penalties aren't a death sentence. Maybe. Iunno, I don't play the game, I just like exploring the world.

I'll take your reassurances in the spirit they're offered, though. Danke schoen.
 
Well, I'd imagine that Pearl has been repressing the hell out of anything to do with who she once was. She was pretty thoroughly brainwashed to think the previous holders of her exaltation were horrendous monsters. I wouldn't be surprised to find that the intermediate incarnation she had was the sidereal equivalent of a Lost Egg because of the propagating mojo Odyssial worked on his soul/exaltation. Those DO exist you know, they're just understandably rare given the whole fate thing. If that was the case then the intermediate incarnation probably ran afoul of the Bronze Faction's zealotry, and ensured that they conditioned the HELL out of Pearl when she came along.

Unfortunately for the Bronze Faction and Anys Syn in particular, Odyssial/Ulyssian is Just That Good.
 
Usernames said:
I can't believe Ulyssian is still dense even being Odyssial at the same time. No wonder he is so strong! He minimax his stat sheet to allow impossible growths but have nearly automatic fail to reconize people that love him romantically.

What kind of Seduction techniques did Lealope do to make him fall in love? Did she spend a thousand years or two?
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Presumably she made it more inconvenient to not allow her to be our waifu than to accept it.
 
Emerald Oracle said:
That... is slightly worrying. As that sounds like the finishing blow went somewhat... unfinished.
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Eh, 16 successes on damage is still a kill-shot on anything but a fully minmaxed Solar Resistance Tank.

Even if we end up dividing it in five pieces for some reason, it's still enough to put all of them into their -2 health levels. If it's focused on one target, they're fucking dead, they just don't explode into gibs.
 
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I didn't think it worked that way in 3E Alectai... I thought it was all loads of dice pushing them off balance until you could pull a decisive blow for 'MASSIVE DAMAGE'.
 
Emerald Oracle said:
Would they need to with the Wood Aspect around keeping them in the fight though? My understanding is that Wood is irritating as hell like that.
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Destrark said:
I didn't think it worked that way in 3E Alectai... I thought it was all loads of dice pushing them off balance until you could pull a decisive blow for 'MASSIVE DAMAGE'.
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16 Sux is 16 levels of damage on a decisive attack. We're assuming it's a decisive attack here. Even when split 5 ways, 16 levels of damage is still crippling to anyone that doesn't have multiple buys of Ox-Body.

Then you factor in the fact that the Wood caste can only heal one person at a time and you have a few turns to wreck face.

Does Odyssial have that charm that lets them keep initiative after a Decisive attack?
 
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Man, it seems that I have missed a lot of stuff in my rather brief absence, so it might be a bit late for me to say this. But, i fucking called it, way back when people decided for disguise and try to play the dynast game against Anys fucking Syn. I even remember predicting that a heavily prepared Wyld hunt showing up days later to ruin our shit, even then I suppose I underestimated the shear tonnage of bricks Rihaku's dropping on us.

Kinda late for me to do anything constructive about the fight at this point, but let me once again reiterate my point, Once we solve the current crisis even a little bit, lets get the fuck out of the center of Sidereal power. We can not survive against Sidereals acting against us like this, so it's time for us to take our friends (Moon, Ivory hint hint) and get the fuck out of here.

We can already see the start of the death spiral forming, and started to pay the price just to survive this first crisis. Even if we win the odds this time, worse and worse will just keep coming. Can we please, please stop voting for stupid things and get us deeper into this tar pit.

Just a reminder to people who thinks we can keep fighting off the Sidereals. Oddyssial died against the Sidereals. Just to reiterate: Oddyssial, without treachery by his DBs, at the height of his power, with Lea fully supporting him and a Sidereal chosen of ENDING that survived from the Primordial wars all the way to Usurpation fighting on at his side. That Oddyssial DIED.

People need to stop thinking that we can do anything because we are "The reincarnation of Oddyssial" and "We make the impossible possible". Even the original Lord Stratego wasn't enough, and we are no where near that level yet.

In case you guys can't tell, I am terrified of Sidereals. They are literally the proverbial rocks right now, and people keep insisting on taunting them to start falling.
 
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The thing is, Zao is hella OP. The Bronze Faction, terrifying though they are (I'm right there with you btw), aren't willing to expend the forces at this point necessary to negate him. That's why they're operating through cat's paws.

This particular fight, if we survive it (which I think we have decent odds of despite Rihaku's silence), solidifies Ulyssian's position as Zao's apprentice and makes him unassailable by the Wyld Hunt for long enough to finish training. It also provides a truly potent reputation bonus, because anyone who can take out an entire Perfected Brotherhood alone is not someone most people will want to mess with for fear he will break their face.

Past those sixish months of training we're probably going to need to start dealing with threats proactively anyway to get more XP.
 
After a couple months of training and mastering most of Ambition's evocations, we need to go to Yu-Shan, just to see the reactions of all the gods that survived until the usurpation.
 
The Bronze Faction lost all of its Elders except Anys Syn in the Wracking, and has severely diminished influence in the Realm outside the Immaculate Order. They are indeed to be feared, but they cannot (repeat: cannot) afford to throw Sidereal assassins at Zao's stronghold until one gets lucky. Neither can they use the Immaculates to attack Zao directly without alienating other parts of the Dragonblooded. And if Syn herself intervenes it will cost her most of her remaining power to put down Zao, so she is going to be very loath to do so.

Probably this is all going to hell sooner or later, mind, but we can push it to later by making Zao's position more secure.
 
Cavalier said:
Probably this is all going to hell sooner or later, mind, but we can push it to later by making Zao's position more secure.
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Which beating the snot out of these poor mooks is going to do. I mean, Zao is already a legend, but Ulyssian is largely an unknown, apparently at Zao's behest. The first obvious thing he did wasn't very impressive, even if it might be considered romantic, and then he snubbed his House. But now, Now! If he succeeds? His first major entrance into Dragonblooded Politics is "I beat a Perfect Brotherhood BY MYSELF". That's worthy of respect and not a small amount of fear.
 
Cavalier said:
The Bronze Faction lost all of its Elders except Anys Syn in the Wracking, and has severely diminished influence in the Realm outside the Immaculate Order. They are indeed to be feared, but they cannot (repeat: cannot) afford to throw Sidereal assassins at Zao's stronghold until one gets lucky. Neither can they use the Immaculates to attack Zao directly without alienating other parts of the Dragonblooded. And if Syn herself intervenes it will cost her most of her remaining power to put down Zao, so she is going to be very loath to do so.

Probably this is all going to hell sooner or later, mind, but we can push it to later by making Zao's position more secure.
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I think we've seen how well Zao's power, both personal and political held up against that of Anys Syn. With the emergence of a Solar powerful enough to throw down with a Perfect Brotherhood, you can bet your ass that Anys Syn will have a lot more support with her this time.

Zao's political position was perfectly secure last time, you know. Right before Anys murderized him. Even if he will have combat capable allies this time around, Anys will have better and more reinforcement precisely because of our presence and Ivory's betrayal.
 
VanusDraco said:
I think we've seen how well Zao's power, both personal and political held up against that of Anys Syn. With the emergence of a Solar powerful enough to throw down with a Perfect Brotherhood, you can bet your ass that Anys Syn will have a lot more support with her this time.
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It's not like the Bronze faction have unlimited power to throw away. Would you want to fight a guy who killed a Perfect Brotherhood of Immaculates within 3 days of Exalting?
Zao's political position was perfectly secure last time, you know. Right before Anys murderized him. Even if he will have combat capable allies this time around, Anys will have better and more reinforcement precisely because of our presence and Ivory's betrayal.
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The Bronze faction lost one of its senior members. How would that increase their numbers?

They're a secret shadow cult, they can't just post adverts for more sidereals in the paper.

EDIT: Anyway, the reason we're in this situation is because we simply didn't follow through with any of the Dynast stuff that would hold her off for any significant amount of time. What we did pick was ALL THE TRAINING, which lets us kill a Perfect Brotherhood. So we'll be headed for the Threshold or wherever to kill and/or suborn the enemies of the Realm on Zao's orders shortly (or dead).

Which is... pretty much what you want to see happen, right?
 
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Guile said:
EDIT: Anyway, the reason we're in this situation is because we simply didn't follow through with any of the Dynast stuff that would hold her off for any significant amount of time. What we did pick was ALL THE TRAINING, which lets us kill a Perfect Brotherhood. So we'll be headed for the Threshold or wherever to kill and/or suborn the enemies of the Realm on Zao's orders shortly (or dead).

Which is... pretty much what you want to see happen, right?
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Actually Guile, I think Reckless Disregard won, which means we'll get at least two months hanging around the Academy before Uly goes off and become a (hopefully government subsidized) murderhobo. Y'know, if he lives.
 
Emerald Oracle said:
Actually Guile, I think Reckless Disregard won, which means we'll get at least two months hanging around the Academy before Uly goes off and become a (hopefully government subsidized) murderhobo. Y'know, if he lives.
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If only there was someone who can generate 600K XP...@Priest...

Where are you when we need you the most...Did the Magic quest and the mad scientist quest drain you of your will?
 
This silence is playing hell on my nerves.
Jorlem said:
Ok, I've seen this mentioned a few times, and I have to ask, is this another way of referring to the Contagion and Balorian Crusade, or is it something else?
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The Wracking is unspecified event that occurred recently, which resulted in the Sidereals being barred from Yu-Shan and crippled/killed/possibly banished most of their Elders. It isn't the Contagion or the Crusade, that much is known; as for what it actually is, your guess is as good as mine. A penalty for unspecified crimes handed down by the Incarnae, possibly as a result of somebody finally being able to definitively prove the Sidereals were behind the Usurpation or actions taken under the influence of One-Hand Fury's built-in backdoor, or something tied into the crossover aspect of the plot are my leading theories.
Usernames said:
Where are you when we need you the most...Did the Magic quest and the mad scientist quest drain you of your will?
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No clue. I've left messages on his profile and PM'd him.
 
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Emerald Oracle said:
Actually Guile, I think Reckless Disregard won, which means we'll get at least two months hanging around the Academy before Uly goes off and become a (hopefully government subsidized) murderhobo. Y'know, if he lives.
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Closer to four months at last count. Perhaps even a bit longer if the period spans several updates and we get more XP.

Assuming, of course, that the next update is not the final one. A < .5% result on a major damage roll doesn't inspire confidence.
 
So some back of napkin figures on when we might reach essence 4/5 based on xp spending and comparing to the beta. 1.024 million xp for essence four and 1.535 mill for five, accounting for that being 60% of the whole xp figure gives a total value of 2.558 million xp both solar and regular.

So from essence 3 to 4 we will need 384k xp or 640k including solar xp. So there is a good chance of accumulating enough xp if we stick around as Rihaku said.
 
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