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If we fight then we should probably act dramatically, as while he can sense killing intent he can't sense emotions. He is noted to savour hostility, so we should act in a way that inclines him towards playing with us. Ham it up with "You murdered my FAMILY!" while explicitly being coldly aggressive, not passionate.

Also, there are probably still fiery/hot improvised weapons available to break his armour.
 
sithmor said:
Isn't the whole point of Dawn for that crazy determination and Will? I think if Odyssial has to choose between: a very very slim chance of victory and high chance of death, or waiting and building strength to get definite justice, then Odyssial can definitely choose the latter one. It doesn't matter how long it takes. Not saying that it's necessarily the right choice, but it's not out of character.
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It says right there in the option that the chance that Odyssial will even live long enough to find Larsyifex again is diminishingly small because Creation is just that big and with the local civilisation destroyed Odyssial has no idea where Larsyifex will go once he's finished here with whatever he's doing here in the first place.

Odyssial doesn't know Exaltations will even be a thing.
All he has available is what is available for mortals and even getting his hands on Sorcery seems like it'd be rather unlikely.
If he leaves now, as far as he knows he'll first have to actually find a way to make killing Larsyifex as a mortal viable at all and then he'll have to track Larsyifex down, even though Creation is big enough that it is literally impossible to travel through even a fraction of it, and he'll have to manage both in a human lifetime.
All Larsyifex has to do is go somewhere far away on a whim and, barring Exaltations which Odyssial isn't aware of being a thing, it becomes literally impossible to even get another chance at killing him.
 
Pipeman said:
It says right there in the option that the chance that Odyssial will even live long enough to find Larsyifex again is diminishingly small because Creation is just that big and with the local civilisation destroyed Odyssial has no idea where Larsyifex will go once he's finished here with whatever he's doing here in the first place.

Odyssial doesn't know Exaltations will even be a thing.
All he has available is what is available for mortals and even getting his hands on Sorcery seems like it'd be rather unlikely.
If he leaves now, as far as he knows he'll first have to actually find a way to make killing Larsyifex as a mortal viable at all and then he'll have to track Larsyifex down, even though Creation is big enough that it is literally impossible to travel through even a fraction of it, and he'll have to manage both in a human lifetime.
All Larsyifex has to do is go somewhere far away on a whim and, barring Exaltations which Odyssial isn't aware of being a thing, it becomes literally impossible to even get another chance at killing him.
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Or he could go to the Markets he knows Larsyifex from.
 
[x] Destroy him

Let's just have the midboss as the tutorial fight, if it bad ends, then it'd just be par on the course as far as progress goes on the last few Rihaku quest, or maybe even further since we'd be fighting our mortal enemy
 
New player if we're still counting players for XP.

[X] Destroy Him - Enough. No excuses. No retreat. No mercy. Creation is far too vast for a mortal to have any hope of tracking down a Daeva of the Second, not in the span of a human's years. You will no longer scrimp and cower in the face of senseless cataclysms, even if you must charge in with your death preordained. Today, as the sun falls into nothingness, a Daeva of the Second Circle falls to a mortal's blade. Today, the cataclysm answers to you. It has never been done before, but that means merely that you will be the first to do it.
 
If/when we have to play up how weak we are compared to him, scrabbling on the ground we should throw some ashes in his face to blind him.

Also, on the poison front, does anyone know if there are canonical examples of demons being vulnerable to their progenitor's poisons?
 
Yes! I got here in time to vote, I remember the old Uly quest from SB but only got around to reading it after it was already ended but now I have a chance to get in on it from the beginning. Hooray.
[X] Dawn

Why Dawn? Because while Odyssial struck me as someone who be stealthier than the best ninjas, a better researcher than the greatest scientists and a stronger warrior than the mightiest barbarians he is most of all someone who always succeeds in removing all obstacles with indomitable will and Dawn caste seems to fit that best.


Still have to put some thought into what would be the best action to perform, this isn't a choice to be made lightly after all.
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OK I've decided that
[X] Destroy Him
Is the only possible option, partly because having Odyssial being focused on a quest for vengeance for the next X years would by annoying but mostly because I doubt he can avoid thinking about how much he wants the daeva dead over a long period of time which would likely ping it's detect hostile intentions ability.

Less sure about how to kill it though, I'm thinking we might be able to get in interested in a wager but killing without aid might not be possible, so far the best options i've seen are lure it over a cliff and weigh it down with stones and stab it with poison but those might not be enough, maybe if we had access to some allies to jump it while it's weak we would have a better chance.
 
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Dark Lord Bob said:
Where does it say that?
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... in the part where the entire backstory is that the Primordial Titan Lethos showed up one day and destroyed the entirety of the civilisation Odyssial was part of?
They were a bronze using civilisation with access to sorcery and now everyone else is dead.

Once Larsyifex is done with whatever the hell he is doing here in the first place, there is no telling where he will go next, but Creation is unbelievably gigantic, he can travel a lot faster than any mortal can ever hope to match and, even if past behaviour suggest he will seek out other markets where he can gamble, all nearby ones were utterly destroyed, so that's more of a problem than an actual hint.
 
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Pipeman said:
... in the part where the entire backstory is that the Primordial Titan Lethos showed up one day and destroyed the entirety of the civilisation Odyssial was part of?
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It was "their (referring to the Daevas) Grand Marketplace". I assumed it wasn't some random street market in the middle of a human settlement, where Odyssial observed Larsyifex in a tavern throwing dice with drunkards.

I had presumed when you said the Grand Marketplace of the Daevas was destroyed you had access to a quote I'd missed, rather than just a differing interpretation of what happens when a human city is destroyed.
 
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Here's my initial assessment of the situation given we are probably going to fight.

Given his seeming weakness to fire and his pride, our best bet seems to start with an 'ambush' which he detects followed by a sudden attack while he is toying with us. A conventional ambush will likely fail against his aggression sense. The best place is probably in the middle of the camp given that we probably know it's layout better then he does and it's closer too all the fires, which we could try to use to our advantage. The tents could act as something which obscures his line of sight and distractions. We may even get a chance to use some of the stones if he get's caught under one.
 
Orm Embar said:
But Odyssial does care. He cares a great deal about the welfare of his people as a whole, and for his sister in particular. If he did not, then he would hardly throw himself body and soul into defying a Creation largely inimical to human life, or be willing to sacrifice to preserve his tribe. That unceasing and unrelenting dedication to do whatever is necessary to protect the things important to him is, in my opinion, his defining trait, and the reason I'm pushing for Dawn
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.....oh dear sweet Sol, she's Lealope, isn't she?
 
[X] Dawn
[X] Destroy Him

Let's die. :)

A bit more seriously, not flinching in the face of impossible odds is what being an exalted about right? Turning aside may have been the more pragmatic choice ... but well, if its supposed to be impossible for a human to defeat a Daeva, then it will make no difference whether we face him later or now. We'll have to face impossible odds anyway. Sometimes one choose a certain path, even if the only feasible outcome is death (or game over).
 
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Could we know a bit more about the spirits Odyssial's group struck bargains with? How much would they be willing to support us here? Oh, and these guys have presumably scouted the terrain before setting camp, so is there anything unusual/useful nearby? Animals? Pretty rocks? Anything?

Edit: Btw, does this Daeva desire worship?
 
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Vaalintine said:
Hmmm, what if we were to use the stones to hammer a dagger down into his skull?
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Difficult to pull off, but I think the idea of using them to weigh down a net or something has potential. His instincts don't matter if he can't move well enough to use them. Still, he does have six bladed appendages (seriously, six, that's just gratuitous), so he might be able to sever any improvised snare.
 
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There's also the problem of not knowing just how refined his aggression sense is. We know the selantis have a weaker version, but just how much weaker? Can he distinguish degrees? Divine reasons for hostility? Can this sense be circumvented/overwhelmed?

Frankly, his arrogance is our only salvation, and to succeed the MC will have to exploit the enemy's vices to the limits, making the Daeva play around with Odyssial long enough for an opening to present itself. Things like doing riskier gambles to make the fight more exciting, or appealing to the Daeva's sense of aesthetics.
Maybe we can offer incentives to distract the thing, like promising servitude in exchange for some disadvantages, if having a servant/worshipper that Hates him to the depths of his miserable soul is something that appeals to Larsyifex.
 
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