Dark Abstraction
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This indicates that Thrice-Bound is a request of hers. Since it makes our Bad End go from ~5 empires to 1, I think that's somewhat interesting. Don't you?
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Enohthree
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Of those options Trebly Bound seems a far superior option as compared to giving the heroes any amount of time with Incarnate, even if it allows us a glaring weakspot.
I can get behind the idea of throwing in a few more slightly lower heroes to the mix with Age of Glory if it means we're also able to reap them and wield their powers against the remaining. We're going to need to hit hard have no doubt, but that's why Cursebearer exists.
I just realize Age of Glory goes great with Reaper because it allows us to megaman their powers. We just need to separate them from the pack and pick them off one after another.
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Yeah, but the whole point of taking Cursebearer is giving them a finger. Are we seriously going to be content with staying weaker than them after choosing it?
Diagram can divine the future and teleport us around. The Divinities rewrite the destiny of the whole world and are nigh-omniscient. There comes a time when power simply substitutes for all those pesky laws of physics.
The Cursebearer with Cultivation would be in the enviable position of being supremely talented, having (more or less) easy access to resources and being capable of defending himself from pretty much everyone else.
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[X] Plan Survive to Become Thrice-Great
-[X] Guardian Beast (2 orbs)
-[X] Thrice-Great (4 orbs)
-[X] Unnamed
-[X] An Age of Glory
-[X] Heroic Passions
Well I think a plan where we have literal win cards works well with the Greatness choice. Solves that issue of living long enough to make that talent go anywhere.
-[X] Guardian Beast (2 orbs)
-[X] Thrice-Great (4 orbs)
-[X] Unnamed
-[X] An Age of Glory
-[X] Heroic Passions
Well I think a plan where we have literal win cards works well with the Greatness choice. Solves that issue of living long enough to make that talent go anywhere.
Scythe combines poorly with Cursebearer because basically nobody's a valid target for the Harvest.
Since naming plans is in-vogue, I give you:
[X] Plan Let's Just Shoot Her
[X] Diagram Magic (1 orb)
[X] Cursebearer (4 orbs)
[X] Unnamed
[X] Heroic Passions
Possible alterations to this include swapping to Diagram, or adding additional drawbacks to fit a Sign into the mix; Sword is my preference there. Just as a reminder, Reincarnation and Young Master are both trap options. Young Master doesn't work with Unnamed, which we have to take because it's a free orb, and it costs two on top of that. Reincarnation is marginally less of a crapshoot, but picking it with Incarnation is (ironically) a swift road to failure. The gains take too long to materialize, and aren't worth it if we pick Cursebearer anyway. Even without any of that the risk of internal conflict is too high for me to want to chance it.
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Dark Abstraction
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[ ] Plan Let's Just Shoot Her
[ ] Cultivation (1 orb)
[ ] Cursebearer (4 orbs)
[ ] Unnamed
[ ] Heroic Passions
Also posting a new tally
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Yeah, if we go Cursebearer I definitely think we should spare the extra orb. That or go Sword+Incarnate and hope to be able to find them quickly. Taking three Curses though... how can we possibly expect to have our cake and eat it too after that? Certainly, defeating the Divinities and having a happy life after can't be possible through this - any Curse loadout that enables victory must lead to a pyrrhic one or the Curses wouldn't deserve the name.
[X] Plan Let's Just Shoot Her
Ultramandalore
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changing my vote to...
[X] Plan Let's Just Shoot Her
[X] Plan Let's Just Shoot Her
I agree with your basic concept. However, to me the most important differentiation between diagram magic and cultivation, is diagram magic's superiority in information gathering.
I expect a Cursebearer's biggest weakness will be in determining where and how to use their vast power. Locating our foe, and learning their plans will be the most useful thing a non curse power can offer.
[X] Diagram Magic
[X]Cursebearer (4 orbs)
[X] The Scales
[X] Unnamed
[X] Heroic Passions
[X] Trebly Bound
Scales to further our informational advantages, and tieing ourselves to the elves to shortcut through the making allies phase, as they will know they summomed us as their savior.
We probably wouldn't even break Qi Condensing stage or whatever after the first decade. Cultivation would be a waste of Orbs and a waste of our prep time.
Thanatanos
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[X] Plan Let's Just Shoot Her
More like a vote name update than vote change here but... Let's do this!
More like a vote name update than vote change here but... Let's do this!
Supreme combat instincts would be a nice cherry on top of Cursebearer powers (though I don't know how appreciable the boost would really be), but I rather thought the Scales deserved first place here. After all, social-type powers are one of the few things the Accursed (almost) doesn't grant...
Personally, i feel that adding Thrice-Bound, Epic Age and The Scales to this plan would improve it. It gives us more power from accepting the Elven contract, the ability to manipulate epic heroes into working with us, a supportive Imperial power that we can actually guide with superlative adminstrative and diplomatic prowess and even greater access to cultivation resources. The biggest downside is becoming racist against non-elves, loosing the game if we loose our Elven Empire and having to deal with other heroes, but i feel that these drawbacks are mostly alright, and in fact shift the narrative of the game favorably, to a more nation-building and grand diplomacy oriented playstyle.
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Consider Reincarnation over Young Master so we don't need Heroic Passions? Being a Young Master without a Name who can't control his emotions is a perilous position and there are a number of votes for the following already:
[X] Reincarnation (1 orb)
[X] Cultivation (1 orb)
[X] The Sword (2 orbs)
[X] Unnamed
Enohthree
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Nobody's a valid target for stats, but, say, a Diagram user we could pluck the magic out of?
Pretty sure that you need one more drawback to make this plan legal.
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I'm fairly sure you'll need to take Diagram as well for that, in which case it should work. Whether Diagram is potent enough to stack properly with combat-type Cursebearer powers is another matter.
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How would Young Master and Trebly bound work together? Would we become a Young Master of the Elves, or would we be reborn on this world as a Young Master and then summoned onto the same world? Curious on how this combo would effect the advantages/disadvantages of Young Master.
Ultramandalore
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Wouldn't we be taking diagram puerly for the utility spells in this case?
[] Diagram Magic
[]Cursebearer (4 orbs)
[] The Scales
[] Unnamed
[] Heroic Passions
[] Trebly Bound
Yeah, this sounds pretty solid.
Vaguely concerned that the elves will far from like our general terribleness, but tough luck, no backsies.
Major concern would be the heroine trying to diplomance them, though., which kinda autowins this and is probably why she made the request.
Time to manipulate the humans into isolating the elves and keep a sharp I on people trying to jump the quarantine?
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Oh, yeah this is unbalanced.
[]Cursebearer (4 orbs)
[] The Scales
[] Unnamed
[] Heroic Passions
[] Trebly Bound
Yeah, this sounds pretty solid.
Vaguely concerned that the elves will far from like our general terribleness, but tough luck, no backsies.
Major concern would be the heroine trying to diplomance them, though., which kinda autowins this and is probably why she made the request.
Time to manipulate the humans into isolating the elves and keep a sharp I on people trying to jump the quarantine?
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Oh, yeah this is unbalanced.
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If we are then that's a big hit to its value. Taking Drawbacks enough to get Reaper + Diagram just for utility is... bold.
Hmm, you are correct. Then hows this look:
[X] Plan Find Them And Kill Them
[X] Diagram Magic
[X]Cursebearer (4 orbs)
[X] The Scales
[X] Unnamed
[X] Heroic Passions
[X] Trebly Bound
[X] An Age of Glory