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Even Further Beyond [Complete]
- Thread starter Rihaku
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Just a reminder guys - we have already voted to work this year to work on removing spoiled.
That is going to happen no matter what. What we are voting for right now is the form that will take.
We could pick none of the obvious choices and we would still have some improvement (Though I really do not recommend that)
I'll Face Myself is NOT necessary to remove Spoiled. It is the fastest way by far, but is also the crudest.
I strongly support working on removing Spoiled with working Extra Diligent(ly).
That is going to happen no matter what. What we are voting for right now is the form that will take.
We could pick none of the obvious choices and we would still have some improvement (Though I really do not recommend that)
I'll Face Myself is NOT necessary to remove Spoiled. It is the fastest way by far, but is also the crudest.
I strongly support working on removing Spoiled with working Extra Diligent(ly).
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Yup and Extra Diligently may even change the Veil to be less parasitic given Nameless now enjoys practicing Necromancy.
[X] Strategic Complexion (with Xiaoling, Yong Shen) - The Empire seems to be experiencing a bout of instability. Yong Shen hasn't acted, but why? Perhaps it would be wise to pay grandpa a visit; and, if necessary, forcibly smooth out the ripples that have disturbed the previously tranquil pond of the Labyrinth.
The question of Empire in problem...Once again that I will repeat the word "As long as Yong or Kong still alive,the empire will survive"
I don't think Fate can kill Kong here.
And for morality debate,I think we discuss before that untold billions will suffer form our decision and inaction.
To save people need time,Time that we need to getting stronger.
There are cruel to deny to help untold billions that ask for help form their savior and we denied them all.
I don't want to use morality as a point to debate in this case.
"Superman that hear all of the world suffering and don't lift finger to help" can cast Superman in bad light.
But we have war with Fate to win,the heroine to kill.
Untold billions will dying,suffering will happen across The Empire.
We can told that is human nature but the truth is that is pretty much The Fate doing form the certain point of view.
The Fate dictate the outcome in their favor and we should to avoid falling into their trap.
As long as Kong still alive then I don't think the Empire need our help to survive.
@Rihaku confirm that Heroine can not kill Kong in five years without our help so if we don't foolish enough to help Heroine then I don't think The Fate can do anything to doom us to lose condition.
Only argument I can see as help the empire is moral thing to do and I agree with that.
Help the untold billions to relieve their suffering is good thing to do.
...but I don't want to fall into Fate's trap.
Don't involve in their drama game.
I don't think Fate can kill Kong here.
And for morality debate,I think we discuss before that untold billions will suffer form our decision and inaction.
To save people need time,Time that we need to getting stronger.
There are cruel to deny to help untold billions that ask for help form their savior and we denied them all.
I don't want to use morality as a point to debate in this case.
"Superman that hear all of the world suffering and don't lift finger to help" can cast Superman in bad light.
But we have war with Fate to win,the heroine to kill.
Untold billions will dying,suffering will happen across The Empire.
We can told that is human nature but the truth is that is pretty much The Fate doing form the certain point of view.
The Fate dictate the outcome in their favor and we should to avoid falling into their trap.
As long as Kong still alive then I don't think the Empire need our help to survive.
@Rihaku confirm that Heroine can not kill Kong in five years without our help so if we don't foolish enough to help Heroine then I don't think The Fate can do anything to doom us to lose condition.
Only argument I can see as help the empire is moral thing to do and I agree with that.
Help the untold billions to relieve their suffering is good thing to do.
...but I don't want to fall into Fate's trap.
Don't involve in their drama game.
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DkArthas
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Meh. I very much doubt Working to master necromacy is going to Change Nameless that much. If he keeps doing something like that for several years, it may work. I am also looking forward to procc Spoiled this way..Mhm.
Aurelia is the mostly way sure way to do it.
Aurelia is the mostly way sure way to do it.
Consistency is for soup. People behave according to constantly shifting value judgments. How many of those voters believed it would be easier than it now appears to be? How many would have gladly traded those options for Truth research?
Not everyone believes that Spoiled is a guillotine blade hanging over our head. Nor are the practical benefits of its removal as obvious to others as to you. The 'mystery box' is what our Extrusion will become, should the core of our identity shift. That is also unknown to be possible, but it is the stated intention of removing Spoiled, so it is tacitly accepted as such.
Perhaps you should help us understand why you believe our previous methods of mitigating and exploiting our passions to be ineffectual. Personally, I believe that Vengeful's a bigger issue than Spoiled is, since we avoided it by diving into our studies and ignoring everyone beyond scamming and partying. I expect Spoiled only becomes an issue if we have to pay the Extrusion for an extended period. I'll admit that's pretty awful, but a valid and straightforward means of improving our bargaining position is to show our willingness to pursue other avenues to power.
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Kong won't wake up for some years yet and Shen is sitting on his ass doing who knows what. How exactly are they supposed to prevent the Empire's collapse? Kong was free to say that because his life doesn't actually depend on maintaining the Empire's governance. We're not so fortunate.
Not to mention that setting the goals of 'killing the Heroine' and 'helping the Empire' in opposition and being the hard man making the hard decisions risks us gettting blindsided by the Empire's collapse while we're looking for her.
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That would make sense, and also be stupidly cool.
It is a huge focus of Nameless. And hey, we can research something called True Incarnation and it might help with an ability called Incarnation.
Cant imagine them being linked at all
If the Fates have any sense at all, they will thoroughly destroy as many traces of the system of cultivation as they can. I don't think there will be refugees in their optimal scenario.
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Notably the Elves are Doomed, so if everything works out right, there also will not be an Age of Might ring to screw things up.
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[X] Pursuit of the Truth
I'm still a fan of the Truth abilities, and we just spent the prior update on removing Spoiled -- it seems like a wasted chance to turn away now. After all, by choosing Extra Diligent over I'll Face Myself, aren't we acting as if the Incredible Cosmic Power was the only reason to change ourself? Which, in itself, would be the death knell to any future efforts to change as well... The other options will likely recur, but if we pass up this last chance to drop Spoiled, it feels quite unlikely that the chance will come back.
Monster Vault replacement and esoteric offense, all in one easy package? Sold.
Persuaded by this argument:
Anything that increases the likelihood of another chance to change Spoiled is a good pick, at least the way it's looking right now that the vote will go.
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Remember how Rihaku has entire multi-mega-gigaverse going on?
My True Open The Way Can't Be This Convenient
"I ask of you, are yo- urgh"
The spiritual being fell to pieces as Nameless slew it with the barest sliver of his power. Then, he enveloped the entire city with his awareness, sensing other Servants. Grinning, he Opened The Way beneath his lying form, dropping six stories down and hitting the ground in front of a being clad in blue spandex. The Servant had barely enough time to exclaim "The fuck" before Nameless destroyed him. Then, he opened another portal beneath himself.
--
He hit the ground with a quiet "boop", watching the Grail manifest before him. With a casual gesture, he excised the evil spirit from the device before it could cover the Earth in curses, and then made his wish as the true winner of the Holy Grail War.
"Use your power to improve my Cultivation!"
The Grail shone for a moment, and Nameless felt his power swell and hit the peak of Immortal Awakening. Finally, after thirty Grail Wars, he had finally done it! Peak Immortal Awakening in less than thirteen hours, ha! Suck on that Monster Vault! Of course, he still needed to break through, but he had some ideas.
With a minimal effort of will, he murdered the mongrel-yelling golden asshole, before opening a portal beneath him again.
--
Suizhen expertly dodged aside as Nameless fell from the sky, hitting the ground with an audible moan of pleasure. In the past few weeks Nameless learned to appreciate various landing spots, and there was only one thing that was more comfortable to fall on than Elven grass. He reminisced about his wife wistfully for a second before Suizhen interrupted his thoughts.
"Yo, boss! What's popping!" Suizhen greeted him cheerfully.
Yes, allowing her to watch American movies was proving to be a mistake. On the other hand, watching Dean, the Rubric Hero, trying to woo her was fucking hilarious, so this was a small price to pay. He started greeting her back before he actually looked at her.
"Damn Suizhen, that actually looks really cute."
She blushed as her hand went to touch her fake cat ears. "Y-your wife made them for me, sir!"
Nameless considered that for a moment. "How much do you owe her at this point?"
"She taught me theoretical mathematics to appreciate just how much in debt I am!" Suizhen chirped happily.
Right. Nameless decided to ignore that completely, rolling to the side so he could reach the laptop on his back. "I have a task for you and your eternal friend, Dean." He could see her perk up on that, "I hit the peak of Immortal Awakening two minutes ago, but I need new breakthroughs to continue into Eternal Grasping. Remember that Worm thing he likes to talk about?" Suizhen nodded vigorously. "Well, it's shit, but I went there and got this Haywire dude to make me an interdimensional laptop! The two of you will go around the internet of various Earths and seek for ways to break through Cultivation Stages or develop philosophical Techniques. Maybe even make a Choose Your Own Adventure type of game with me as a main character, and have dozens of people spend their time thinking about the best ways for me to grow. Whatever the case might be, make sure to find the best way for me to get past this Stage and then report to me," Nameless finished.
Suizhen eyed him suspiciously. "Shouldn't you be doing that? Working on your breakthrough?"
Nameless grinned. "Yeah, but I need to meet with Relia to work on my personality flaws!" Or at least, that was what they were supposed to be doing. Nameless had other plans in mind.
Suizhen huffed. "Like not making a single step since you've learned True Open The Way four weeks ago, or having other people do your work for you?"
"Yup!" Nameless grinned before a portal opened beneath him to drop him on the bestest thing in the universe to fall on.
Suizhen stood in silence for a few moments. Then she devolved into a gibbering mess, clutching her cat ears. "Kyaaaa, he thinks they are cute!"
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Eight trillion years later, on a random Earth somewhere, Seram Tiberuis Law sat alone, celebrating his thirtieth birthday. Or at least, he was supposed to, as on the other side of the table there was a beautiful, blue eyed woman. For some reason, Seram felt like she owed him something.
"Greetings, Seram Tiberius Law," Indebted began, "I am here to offer you a simple transaction."
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Another big thanks to Unelemental for beta work!
Well, I'm sure Nameless was quite a nerd, so:
My True Open The Way Can't Be This Convenient
"I ask of you, are yo- urgh"
The spiritual being fell to pieces as Nameless slew it with the barest sliver of his power. Then, he enveloped the entire city with his awareness, sensing other Servants. Grinning, he Opened The Way beneath his lying form, dropping six stories down and hitting the ground in front of a being clad in blue spandex. The Servant had barely enough time to exclaim "The fuck" before Nameless destroyed him. Then, he opened another portal beneath himself.
--
He hit the ground with a quiet "boop", watching the Grail manifest before him. With a casual gesture, he excised the evil spirit from the device before it could cover the Earth in curses, and then made his wish as the true winner of the Holy Grail War.
"Use your power to improve my Cultivation!"
The Grail shone for a moment, and Nameless felt his power swell and hit the peak of Immortal Awakening. Finally, after thirty Grail Wars, he had finally done it! Peak Immortal Awakening in less than thirteen hours, ha! Suck on that Monster Vault! Of course, he still needed to break through, but he had some ideas.
With a minimal effort of will, he murdered the mongrel-yelling golden asshole, before opening a portal beneath him again.
--
Suizhen expertly dodged aside as Nameless fell from the sky, hitting the ground with an audible moan of pleasure. In the past few weeks Nameless learned to appreciate various landing spots, and there was only one thing that was more comfortable to fall on than Elven grass. He reminisced about his wife wistfully for a second before Suizhen interrupted his thoughts.
"Yo, boss! What's popping!" Suizhen greeted him cheerfully.
Yes, allowing her to watch American movies was proving to be a mistake. On the other hand, watching Dean, the Rubric Hero, trying to woo her was fucking hilarious, so this was a small price to pay. He started greeting her back before he actually looked at her.
"Damn Suizhen, that actually looks really cute."
She blushed as her hand went to touch her fake cat ears. "Y-your wife made them for me, sir!"
Nameless considered that for a moment. "How much do you owe her at this point?"
"She taught me theoretical mathematics to appreciate just how much in debt I am!" Suizhen chirped happily.
Right. Nameless decided to ignore that completely, rolling to the side so he could reach the laptop on his back. "I have a task for you and your eternal friend, Dean." He could see her perk up on that, "I hit the peak of Immortal Awakening two minutes ago, but I need new breakthroughs to continue into Eternal Grasping. Remember that Worm thing he likes to talk about?" Suizhen nodded vigorously. "Well, it's shit, but I went there and got this Haywire dude to make me an interdimensional laptop! The two of you will go around the internet of various Earths and seek for ways to break through Cultivation Stages or develop philosophical Techniques. Maybe even make a Choose Your Own Adventure type of game with me as a main character, and have dozens of people spend their time thinking about the best ways for me to grow. Whatever the case might be, make sure to find the best way for me to get past this Stage and then report to me," Nameless finished.
Suizhen eyed him suspiciously. "Shouldn't you be doing that? Working on your breakthrough?"
Nameless grinned. "Yeah, but I need to meet with Relia to work on my personality flaws!" Or at least, that was what they were supposed to be doing. Nameless had other plans in mind.
Suizhen huffed. "Like not making a single step since you've learned True Open The Way four weeks ago, or having other people do your work for you?"
"Yup!" Nameless grinned before a portal opened beneath him to drop him on the bestest thing in the universe to fall on.
Suizhen stood in silence for a few moments. Then she devolved into a gibbering mess, clutching her cat ears. "Kyaaaa, he thinks they are cute!"
---
Eight trillion years later, on a random Earth somewhere, Seram Tiberuis Law sat alone, celebrating his thirtieth birthday. Or at least, he was supposed to, as on the other side of the table there was a beautiful, blue eyed woman. For some reason, Seram felt like she owed him something.
"Greetings, Seram Tiberius Law," Indebted began, "I am here to offer you a simple transaction."
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Another big thanks to Unelemental for beta work!
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When i am done with my coursework in a week, i am so going to write Nameless stumbling into the Exalted setting after a blender on spirit LSD and accidentally elevating pre-Exaltation Odyssial to peak Soul Chrysalis.
Aoinfinity
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Poor Suizhen, eternally friendzoned by both guys in her life, and in debt to a superlative degree.
It's actually the other way around! She doesn't even register that he is trying to hook up with her!