To make people actually remember, here's it once for posterity: Minako is nonbinary and uses they/them. This message will be pinned so you people stop getting it wrong and pissing me off. If you get it wrong in the future I'm going to be much less nice, considering you have to scroll past it just to read the quest.
 
I actually had forgot about that epilogue.

Linky link:
SayakaQuest Thread 10: Glory To The Death | Page 646

Also,
Sayaka and Kyouko kiss regularly.
A reminder this deserved to be clarified. :V

Something like that?
Maybe... Homu proposed to Madoka, Madoka said she had went through a phase and now wasn't interested, and Homu NOW SPENDS ALL HER TIME WRITING FANFICTION!!!!!!11!one!1!!
 
Saying that nope, they're going to PTSD their way through the rest of their short lives, for example, always baffles me.

I'm not saying that, or especially that homura can't have a good life. Just that mental health stuff doesn't get "fixed" and a lot of the time you just cope and learn to live around it.

It frustrates me when people have this expectation of getting over things or getting better in a kind of simplistic way. I'm probably always going to be depressed and always have some issues with suicidal thoughts and that sort of thing, and the focus is never on fixing myself but always on living and moving forward.

Homura is never going to be the girl she was before or suddenly date madoka and have a storybook ending, is all I mean. In the same way Sayaka is still struggling, but has built a life with Kyoko?
 
I'm not saying that, or especially that homura can't have a good life. Just that mental health stuff doesn't get "fixed" and a lot of the time you just cope and learn to live around it.

It frustrates me when people have this expectation of getting over things or getting better in a kind of simplistic way. I'm probably always going to be depressed and always have some issues with suicidal thoughts and that sort of thing, and the focus is never on fixing myself but always on living and moving forward.

Homura is never going to be the girl she was before or suddenly date madoka and have a storybook ending, is all I mean. In the same way Sayaka is still struggling, but has built a life with Kyoko?

Look, whatever. Just... whatever.
Okay.

I recognize that I didn't understand you correctly because of having wrongly interpreted your phrasing. Apologies.
 
[x] Call Madoka

Listen um... Homura is probably alive and with Madoka? It's probably more that Homura's issues are very severe and Madoka's basically on full-time unofficial therapist for her and Madoka just doesn't like talking about it when she gets a break to talk to her best friend?
 
[x] Call Madoka

Listen um... Homura is probably alive and with Madoka? It's probably more that Homura's issues are very severe and Madoka's basically on full-time unofficial therapist for her and Madoka just doesn't like talking about it when she gets a break to talk to her best friend?

Let's hope. Rebellion made it clear that at least canon Homura isn't exactly the stablest of persons; beating Walpurgisnacht but losing Madoka's love would probably make her witch out.

And in every canon, Homura's Witch is a beast.
 
Let's hope. Rebellion made it clear that at least canon Homura isn't exactly the stablest of persons; beating Walpurgisnacht but losing Madoka's love would probably make her witch out.

And in every canon, Homura's Witch is a beast.

To be fair, we really shouldn't be using Rebellion to analyze a 'successful' Homura, because Rebellion!Homura's issues were worsened by experiencing total failure (Madoka becoming a god and never existing is a failure state), being gaslighted into Kyubey to doubt if her memories of Madoka are even REAL, and being unable to justify her life when she formed her entire life around a mission she failed at.

Homulilly is the Nutcracker Witch, which is broken with teeth falling out. It's a thing built for only one purpose and is too broken to do the only thing that justifies its existence. That's how Rebellion Homura sees herself.

At least SQ!Homura succeeded. It doesn't make her trauma and issues go away but she at least tells herself she's fine with everything else.

Homura also doesn't really prioritize or care about having Madoka's love; she is outright fine with the idea of Madoka never remembering her or caring about her or connecting with her if only she would be safe. That is part of why Homura's love is so beautiful, amazing, unhealthy, and terrifying.

It doesn't matter, in her mind, if Madoka reciprocates or understands her. She'd like it, but that's not the point. She wants to be by her side but prefers the distance so she can protect her without 'sullying' her.

Hell, her ORIGINAL plan when negotiating with Kyouko was to give her Mitakihara after Walpurgisnacht. She said she planned to leave town. Which meant she was planning to go somewhere she wouldn't be found and gemsmash so her Witch never became a risk to Madoka.

But SQ!Homura is, in the SQ1 Epilogue, WITH Madoka, and making some sort of effort to be healthier. Because she's dating Madoka and Madoka knows her issues and she knows that if she disappears and vanishes or dies, Madoka will be hurt and concerned.

This is likely what Madoka is dealing with. Homura feels like she should die or disappear but can't because she feels trapped by her obligation to Madoka. She probably wakes up in the middle of the night all the time to ask Madoka if it's really okay? And Madoka probably says yes, every time.

And maybe most times that's the end of it.

But more than once, I'm sure, what Madoka says isn't enough.

She really shouldn't be here.
I gave her a gun I taught her how to hurt people to protect herself I corrupted her.
I'm ruining her i'm poisoning her she'd be better if not for me she's trying to help so many people do so much good and she has to waste all this time and energy and kindness on me when im never gonna be better when im never gonna pay any of it back she's safe she's fine kyubey will never get her now after all this what am i even doing what am i even for im just a drain there's nothing i can do to justify this or be forgiven she'd be happier with someone else someone whos more considerate someone who loves her more someone who can help her shine brighter and brighter and do everything she needs everything she wants what am i even doing here i love her so much i love her so much i love her so much i wish she never loved me i wish i was never here it should have been me who died that day it should have been me but i had to do it but did i have to do all of it if i'd just talked to sayaka in earlier loops like this she'd of suffered so much less maybe id be less broken too god why didn't i show her and kyouko that damn video before Mami died fuck fuck FUCK Madoka loved mami so much she's the one friend i couldn't save WHY CAN'T I DO ANYTHING RIGHT
 
So we're still in the timeline where Homura cold blooded premeditated murdered Oriko and her friend right?
 
You mean every timeline after Oriko Magica happened? Yeah.
...Yeah, that doesn't sit well with me, given the reason for first degree murder was based off something that she may not even even would have done, and getting away with it too...but that's neither here or there i suppose, but one's gotta wonder, how many cold murder cases are in mitikihara that Homura is responsible for personally, if there are urban legends about her as a serial killer?
 
As i recall in sayakaquest you canoned that Homura killed Oriko and her friend preemptively, giving a precedent for SQ homura preemptively killing girls who in past timelines were threats to madoka, how many cases of that where there in this one? How many times did Homura preemptively kill girls before it became clear that they were or were not threats?
 
...Yeah, that doesn't sit well with me, given the reason for first degree murder was based off something that she may not even even would have done, and getting away with it too...but that's neither here or there i suppose, but one's gotta wonder, how many cold murder cases are in mitikihara that Homura is responsible for personally, if there are urban legends about her as a serial killer?

....??? You're making that last thing up.

Also I find it hard to blame Homura when Oriko ruined the best timeline she ever had and her specific powerset means she'll do it again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again...

"Hey Homura, I'm someone who will dedicate my entire life to killing Madoka as soon as I contract."
"I'm Homura Akemi. Literally all my problems come from my inability to stop people from contracting except for when they die. Also I do not know this bitch or have any emotional attachment to her."

There's really only one way for her to handle the situation at all, honestly.
 
Also people are not the same in every timeline, Sayaka Miki here is proof of that, how many times have preemptive murder potentially cost her allies that could have led to an end to her looping earlier?
 
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