Dragon Age: Destiny Awaits
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Theravis
A Knight for those Suffering
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- West Michigan
Free Marches? Orlais?
Dovahsith
Lost on the road of life
- Location
- Manchester
Qunari and be constantly confused by why the Bas are so stupid?
Theravis
A Knight for those Suffering
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- West Michigan
Don't give the newbie the Qunari! He'll be confused for weeks.
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- The UK
I know who the Quarni are, I played inquisition through and know enough about the general world just not this part of it's history.
That said can I take Wycome in the free marches?
Dovahsith
Lost on the road of life
- Location
- Manchester
Its just Ultra-Communist Fantasy Borg. He doesn't even need to bother coming up with names for his characters. Just evil schemes to swoop down upon Thedas.
Theravis
A Knight for those Suffering
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- West Michigan
Deep Roads Expedition Tables
Theravis
A Knight for those Suffering
- Location
- West Michigan
Deep Roads Expedition Tables
You have a five-year cooldown between expeditions. You must spend a major action and an economy point on the expedition regardless, but you may spend up to three economy points. You must send at least 5 men.
Bonuses:
Led by a Great Actor: +5
Led by a Great Warrior: +10 (Does not stack with Great Actor)
Sent 50 or more men: +1
Sent 500 or more men: +2
Sent 5000 or more men: +5
Sent an artifact that applies: +5
Spent an additional economy point: +2 (per point)
Not led by a named PC: -10
Mages in the expedition add +1 per mage, max 5.
People with Deep Roads maps get a +5, this goes to Dwarves automatically.
So You Want To Be an Adventurer?
Step 1: Into the Darkness
Roll d100
1-40= Crit Failure (You're Dead, Son. Move to Step 4, with a -40)
41-80= Minor Failure (Move to Step 2 with a -10 Roll)
81-95= Success (Move to Step 2)
96-100= Crit Success (Move to Step 2 with a +5 roll)
Step 2: Don't you know? You never split the party!
Roll d100
1-10= Crit Failure (You're Dead, Son. Move to Step 4, with a -60)
11-60= Failure (Move to Step 4)
61-95= Success (Move to Step 3)
96-100= Crit Success (Move to Step 3 with a +5 roll)
Step 3: Looking for Treasure
Roll d100
1-5= Crit Failure (You're Dead, Son. Move to Step 4, with a -30)
6-50= Failure (Move to Step 4)
51-90= Success (Move to Step 5)
91-100= Crit Success (Move to Step 5 with a +5 roll)
Step 4: Run You Fools
Roll d100
*Note*: In any case where you lose your leader, you lose your artifact(s) as well.
1-10= You lose EVERYTHING.
11-20= You lose your leader, and 75% of your forces
21-30= You lose your leader, and 50% of your forces
31-40= You lose your leader, and 25% of your forces
41-50= You lose your leader.
51-60= You lose 100% of your forces, but your leader survives.
61-70= You lose 75% of your forces, but your leader survives.
71-80= You lose 50% of your forces, but your leader survives.
81-90= You lose 25% of your forces, but your leader survives.
91-100= You lose any artifacts you dispatched.
STEP 5: The Loot
roll d100
1-40: Failure, you find nothing.
41-60: Pick something from the following list.
61-80: Pick one from the list below, or two from the list above.
You have a five-year cooldown between expeditions. You must spend a major action and an economy point on the expedition regardless, but you may spend up to three economy points. You must send at least 5 men.
Bonuses:
Led by a Great Actor: +5
Led by a Great Warrior: +10 (Does not stack with Great Actor)
Sent 50 or more men: +1
Sent 500 or more men: +2
Sent 5000 or more men: +5
Sent an artifact that applies: +5
Spent an additional economy point: +2 (per point)
Not led by a named PC: -10
Mages in the expedition add +1 per mage, max 5.
People with Deep Roads maps get a +5, this goes to Dwarves automatically.
So You Want To Be an Adventurer?
Step 1: Into the Darkness
Roll d100
1-40= Crit Failure (You're Dead, Son. Move to Step 4, with a -40)
41-80= Minor Failure (Move to Step 2 with a -10 Roll)
81-95= Success (Move to Step 2)
96-100= Crit Success (Move to Step 2 with a +5 roll)
Step 2: Don't you know? You never split the party!
Roll d100
1-10= Crit Failure (You're Dead, Son. Move to Step 4, with a -60)
11-60= Failure (Move to Step 4)
61-95= Success (Move to Step 3)
96-100= Crit Success (Move to Step 3 with a +5 roll)
Step 3: Looking for Treasure
Roll d100
1-5= Crit Failure (You're Dead, Son. Move to Step 4, with a -30)
6-50= Failure (Move to Step 4)
51-90= Success (Move to Step 5)
91-100= Crit Success (Move to Step 5 with a +5 roll)
Step 4: Run You Fools
Roll d100
*Note*: In any case where you lose your leader, you lose your artifact(s) as well.
1-10= You lose EVERYTHING.
11-20= You lose your leader, and 75% of your forces
21-30= You lose your leader, and 50% of your forces
31-40= You lose your leader, and 25% of your forces
41-50= You lose your leader.
51-60= You lose 100% of your forces, but your leader survives.
61-70= You lose 75% of your forces, but your leader survives.
71-80= You lose 50% of your forces, but your leader survives.
81-90= You lose 25% of your forces, but your leader survives.
91-100= You lose any artifacts you dispatched.
STEP 5: The Loot
roll d100
1-40: Failure, you find nothing.
41-60: Pick something from the following list.
- 1 boost
- Artifact Armor
- Artifact Weapon
- Utility Artifact
61-80: Pick one from the list below, or two from the list above.
- Golem Control Rod and Golem
- Autocrossbow
- Lyrium Well
- Flamethrower
- 5 boosts
- An Ancient Dwarven technology (Lyrium Well schematics, Golem schematics, Autocrossbow Schematics, Flamethrower Schematics)
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Theravis
A Knight for those Suffering
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- West Michigan
RP it is. Who starts?
Asterion
People think I'm Crazy 'cause I make no Sense
- Location
- The Island of Endless Stories
Asterion
People think I'm Crazy 'cause I make no Sense
- Location
- The Island of Endless Stories
I'm guessing the Host of the Hunt?
- Location
- The UK
So hang on which rolls do the modifiers apply to?
Theravis
A Knight for those Suffering
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- West Michigan
1, 2, and 3
Okay, so very roughly:
Step 1: 60% base chance to succeed
Step 2: 40% base chance to succeed
Step 3: 40% base chance to succeed
Step 4: 50% base chance to succeed
Step 5: 60% base chance to succeed
Compounding is more difficult because the various modifiers each step may incur, but if we ignore that, you got (3/5) * (2/5) * (2/5) * (1/2) * (3/5) = 36/1250 probability to win an artifact. That's err 2.9% base chance
Edit: Oh wait, misread 'lost artifacts dispatched' with 'lost artifacts gained'. Re-calc-ing.
Edit: there
Damn, 4 is arguably the most important step since it calc your loss (losing a great actor would be very pricey. Losing artifacts already dispatched would be pricey as well)
EDIT: This just underline how successful Hawke's expedition was (and how crazy idea that is)
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Theravis
A Knight for those Suffering
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- West Michigan
Such was the point.
I don't want it to be easy or simple, but it is possible, especially if you prepare well and spare no expense.
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- The UK
Can multiple nations co-operate if they agree what to do with potential loot in advance?
Theravis
A Knight for those Suffering
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- West Michigan
I suppose so, but I don't see how it would be any better than running two expeditions.
Zedalb
I just started a Patreon!
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- Washington
In theroy a greater force would lead to less losses.
10K fighting 3K would probably have less losses over
5K fighting 3K.
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It's not fighting. You're balancing marginal gains in success probability against the risk of larger absolute losses in men sent.
Theravis
A Knight for those Suffering
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- West Michigan
At some point the issue becomes coordinating all the people you shoved into a claustrophobic subterranean tunnel, and throwing more men at it doesn't help.
- Location
- Australia
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- They/Them/Their
Moreover, a larger force is more likely to attract the attention of Darkspawn which leads to issues of it's own. A smaller force is better because it's more likely to be missed by the Darkspawn which are pretty much the only thing you need to worry about in the Deep Roads.
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Yeah I was using 'marginal' in the 'marginal gain/benefit' sense of increasing by steps.
[earlier post deleted due to misunderstanding but below is still good info so reposted]
Each added modifier is actually quite good. Adding 10% modifier for example, will almost double you chance to make out with an artifact. At 40% modifier, the multiplier is about 7 times.
Each added modifier is actually quite good. Adding 10% modifier for example, will almost double you chance to make out with an artifact. At 40% modifier, the multiplier is about 7 times.
I would expect it to apply to all the steps.